Re: [ha-Safran] Research question: Oldest Shas in America

[Joshua Jasper]

Hello again,

I've had at least one response requesting that I forward along to everyone
in the group the eventual answer to my question. The 1919 Talmud we have is
the second printing ever made in North America, by Hirsch Wolofsky of
Montreal in partial partnership with the Agunath Harabonim. Wolofsky owned
the Eagle Publishing Company. This Talmud was printed due to an inability
to import Talmuds from Europe during WWI.

However, the first Talmud printed in North America was in 1913 in New York
City. It was published by the Yiddish Daily called the Jewish Morning
Journal (Der Morgen Zhornal). This Talmud went through a second printing in
1917.

Thank you to Israel Mizrahi and Michael Kent for this information.

Chag Urim Sameach,

Josh Jasper


Joshua Jasper
Librarian
Rosen Library

Temple Emanu-El
99 Taft Ave
Providence, RI

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Joshua Jasper  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a research query from a local rabbi that is wondering whether his
> all-Hebrew volumes of the Talmud are the oldest all-Hebrew set of Shas
> printed and published in America. He told me that the set is from the
> Council of Rabbis in the United States and Canada, with the earliest volume
> in his possession from 1919. I believe that the publisher may be the
> Agudath Harabonim (known in English as the Union of Orthodox Rabbis of the
> United States and Canada (UOR)).
>
> Historically, in the late 19th and early 20th century the Talmud had to be
> imported from Europe at great cost because none were being produced in
> North America. So while 1919 seems awfully late, it is definitely
> reasonable that it could be the oldest American printing.
>
> Please respond directly by email if you have any information that may be
> helpful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joshua Jasper
> Librarian
> Rosen Library
>
> Temple Emanu-El
> 99 Taft Ave
> Providence, RI
>
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Re: [ha-Safran] Research question: Oldest Shas in America

[Michael Kent]

Hi Joshua,



Not having the set in front of me, I am going to guess that you are talking
about the 1919 Montreal Talmud printed by Hirsch Wolofsky. Wolofsky was the
owner of the Eagle Publishing Company, which printed the newspaper The
Keneder Adler and many Yiddish books. This company was based in Montreal.



Wolofsky had the idea to print the Talmud during WW1 when importing from
Europe was near impossible. According to his autobiography, he did consult
the Agudath Harabonim. His concerns in consulting them were party financial
and partly due to copyright. In terms of copyright, the rabbis decided be
could print the Vilna Shas in North America. In terms of finances, they
created a partnership in which he was to handle the printing and they were
going to finance the project. After printing two tractates he dissolved the
partnership (according to his autobiography, which makes it odd that on the
Hebrew title page credit is still given to the Agudath Harabonim). He used
the Vilna Shas as his source for his printing.



According to his autobiography, printing the Talmud had been attempted
before in the English speaking world, but that he was the first to succeed
(it actually seems to be a point of Canadian pride in his autobiography
that it happened in Canada before it did in either the United States or the
United Kingdom). He also claims to be the fifth publisher in the history of
the Talmud (I am taking this to mean of compete print editions).



If this is the edition that the Rabbi has, I treat the Eagle Publishing
Company as the formal publisher, but give Wolofsky credit and mention when
possible as this was really his project.



Hope this helps,



Michael Kent





On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 1:30 AM, Fred Isaac  wrote:

> That's a fascinating question. Can you please post the final response to
> the list, Joshua? I'd also like to know who the publisher of the Rabbi's
> set is, and if it's not the earliest, who did it.
>
> Thanks,
> Fred Isaac
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Joshua Jasper  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a research query from a local rabbi that is wondering whether his
>> all-Hebrew volumes of the Talmud are the oldest all-Hebrew set of Shas
>> printed and published in America. He told me that the set is from the
>> Council of Rabbis in the United States and Canada, with the earliest volume
>> in his possession from 1919. I believe that the publisher may be the
>> Agudath Harabonim (known in English as the Union of Orthodox Rabbis of the
>> United States and Canada (UOR)).
>>
>> Historically, in the late 19th and early 20th century the Talmud had to
>> be imported from Europe at great cost because none were being produced in
>> North America. So while 1919 seems awfully late, it is definitely
>> reasonable that it could be the oldest American printing.
>>
>> Please respond directly by email if you have any information that may be
>> helpful.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joshua Jasper
>> Librarian
>> Rosen Library
>>
>> Temple Emanu-El
>> 99 Taft Ave
>> Providence, RI
>>
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Re: [ha-Safran] Research question: Oldest Shas in America

[Israel Mizrahi]

Good MorningThe first Shas printed in the new world was printed in 1913 in New 
York. It was published by the Jewish Morning Journal (Yid. Der Morgen Zhornal) 
Yiddish daily. Founded in 1901 by the politically conservative and religiously 
Orthodox publisher Jacob Saphirstein, and edited by Peter Wiernik, the Morning 
Journal was for years New York City's only morning Yiddish paper.
The OCLC Number: 649133691 It is an offset of the Bardichov 1896 edition.
The edition you describe is the second shas printed in America, though the 1913 
edition went through a second printing in 1917 prior.
Hag Urim Sameach,  

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Hi all,

I have a research query from a local rabbi that is wondering whether his 
all-Hebrew volumes of the Talmud are the oldest all-Hebrew set of Shas printed 
and published in America. He told me that the set is from the Council of Rabbis 
in the United States and Canada, with the earliest volume in his possession 
from 1919. I believe that the publisher may be the Agudath Harabonim (known in 
English as the Union of Orthodox Rabbis of the United States and Canada (UOR)). 

Historically, in the late 19th and early 20th century the Talmud had to be 
imported from Europe at great cost because none were being produced in North 
America. So while 1919 seems awfully late, it is definitely reasonable that it 
could be the oldest American printing.

Please respond directly by email if you have any information that may be 
helpful.

Thanks,

Joshua Jasper
Librarian
Rosen Library

Temple Emanu-El
99 Taft Ave
Providence, RI

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Re: [ha-Safran] Research question: Oldest Shas in America

[Fred Isaac]

That's a fascinating question. Can you please post the final response to
the list, Joshua? I'd also like to know who the publisher of the Rabbi's
set is, and if it's not the earliest, who did it.

Thanks,
Fred Isaac

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Joshua Jasper  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a research query from a local rabbi that is wondering whether his
> all-Hebrew volumes of the Talmud are the oldest all-Hebrew set of Shas
> printed and published in America. He told me that the set is from the
> Council of Rabbis in the United States and Canada, with the earliest volume
> in his possession from 1919. I believe that the publisher may be the
> Agudath Harabonim (known in English as the Union of Orthodox Rabbis of the
> United States and Canada (UOR)).
>
> Historically, in the late 19th and early 20th century the Talmud had to be
> imported from Europe at great cost because none were being produced in
> North America. So while 1919 seems awfully late, it is definitely
> reasonable that it could be the oldest American printing.
>
> Please respond directly by email if you have any information that may be
> helpful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joshua Jasper
> Librarian
> Rosen Library
>
> Temple Emanu-El
> 99 Taft Ave
> Providence, RI
>
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[ha-Safran] Research question: Oldest Shas in America

[Joshua Jasper]

Hi all,

I have a research query from a local rabbi that is wondering whether his
all-Hebrew volumes of the Talmud are the oldest all-Hebrew set of Shas
printed and published in America. He told me that the set is from the
Council of Rabbis in the United States and Canada, with the earliest volume
in his possession from 1919. I believe that the publisher may be the
Agudath Harabonim (known in English as the Union of Orthodox Rabbis of the
United States and Canada (UOR)).

Historically, in the late 19th and early 20th century the Talmud had to be
imported from Europe at great cost because none were being produced in
North America. So while 1919 seems awfully late, it is definitely
reasonable that it could be the oldest American printing.

Please respond directly by email if you have any information that may be
helpful.

Thanks,

Joshua Jasper
Librarian
Rosen Library

Temple Emanu-El
99 Taft Ave
Providence, RI
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[ha-Safran] Research Question

[Robin Gluck]

Hello,

I have a student who is researching Jewish power and privilege pre 1929.
He is asking the question:  How have Jews justified superiority to
"inferior" classes or races pre 1929?  I know this is a broad question!  If
anyone can direct me to specific research that might narrow this topic or
address this question, I would be very appreciative.

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[ha-Safran] research question

[Chaya Wiesman]

Dear Safranim,

 

Does anyone have access to The Sporting News from the year 1969-1975?
A student is researching for a paper and needs articles.  Thank you in
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