Re: ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm (was: ghc to be dropped from potato (debian)
"Manuel" == Manuel M T Chakravarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As already pointed out by some people, you need the DocBook tools to build the documentation. After a _lot_ of ferreting round the net, I found db2dvi in stylesheets-0.10-2.i386.rpm. (Actually, it's not in docbook-3.1-5.i386.rpm, or psgml-1.2.1-1.i386.rpm, or sgml-tools-1.0.9-5.i386.rpm, or jade-1.2.1-9.i386.rpm, or ...) The adjective `exotic' seems apt. (By the way, the docbook web page says that the project has been suspended.) I suppose the problem here is that the ghc people (laudably, sensibly, etc, ..) want a doc package that makes rtf as well as the usual unix doc formats. Maybe I can make the building of the documentation conditional (but then I can already imagine the ``I build from source and now can't find the documentation bug reports''). Any ideas? Check for the existence of db2dvi in the configure phase, and fail then, rather than right at the end of a (long and machine-crucifying) build? (From http://www.redhat.com/support/wpapers/rpm3.0/building.html,..) "RPM 3.0 supports build prerequisites. A build prerequisite permits a source package to check whether all the components necessary to build a package are installed on the build system." It would be great if at least one haskell system could get into the standard linux distributions. ... Sure - any idea how to get Red Hat to include the stuff? I've asked a (busy) friend who works for redhat. I'll pass on any info if/when he replies. I think ghc would probably be a "contrib" package. For redhat, "We do not guarentee that they will work, fix anything etc. They are just a public service that we lend to users (ie a central repository)." Finally, in case I am giving the wrong impression, thanks _very_ much for taking the trouble to make a src.rpm.
Re: ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm (was: ghc to be dropped from potato (debian)
Peter Hancock writes:
After a _lot_ of ferreting round the net, I found db2dvi in
stylesheets-0.10-2.i386.rpm. (Actually, it's not in
docbook-3.1-5.i386.rpm, or psgml-1.2.1-1.i386.rpm, or
sgml-tools-1.0.9-5.i386.rpm, or jade-1.2.1-9.i386.rpm, or ...) The
adjective `exotic' seems apt. (By the way, the docbook web page
says that the project has been suspended.) I suppose the problem here
is that the ghc people (laudably, sensibly, etc, ..) want a doc package
that makes rtf as well as the usual unix doc formats.
If db2dvi is so hard to find on a typical installation, you (the GHC docs
person, Reuben, I think?) might just want to duplicate its functionality. I
am pretty sure that all db2dvi (and db2{ps,rtf,..}) is is just glue that finds
the DocBook DTD, stylesheets, entities and other stuff and then just calls
jade with the right output type option to do the actual formatting, so it's
really a one-liner if you know the locations of the files (OK, big "if" on a
Unix system...).
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Re: ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm (was: ghc to be dropped from potato (debian)
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Peter Hancock wrote: says that the project has been suspended.) I suppose the problem here is that the ghc people (laudably, sensibly, etc, ..) want a doc package that makes rtf as well as the usual unix doc formats. It was more that we wanted a package that was easy to install and use. Personally, I've never managed to get jade to work by using it directly. It's hard to compile, the catalog is hard to configure, and the command line options are hard to work out as the whole thing is documented in SGML-ese rather than UNIX-ese. -- http://sc3d.org/rrt/ | certain, a. insufficiently analysed
Re: ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm (was: ghc to be dropped from potato (debian)
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:27:56 + (GMT), you uttered: It would be great if at least one haskell system could get into the standard linux distributions. ... Sure - any idea how to get Red Hat to include the stuff? I've asked a (busy) friend who works for redhat. I'll pass on any info if/when he replies. I think ghc would probably be a "contrib" package. For redhat, "We do not guarentee that they will work, fix anything etc. They are just a public service that we lend to users (ie a central repository)." Just upload .src.rpm and binary rpms to ftp://incoming.redhat.com/ and they'll make their way to contrib. I don't think it'd ever make it into the distribution proper or powertools, as redhat themselves have to maintain everything in that. Finally, in case I am giving the wrong impression, thanks _very_ much for taking the trouble to make a src.rpm. Seconded.
Re: ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm (was: ghc to be dropped from potato (debian)
Peter Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Somewhat related to this, ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm has a problem. It builds OK (taking several hours on my machine) till the very end, then dies trying to invoke some program called db2dvi. I can't find a redhat package that contains this. Well, it certainly sounds like a documentation thing - I'd bet it's a DocBook-to-DVI converter, so I'd try hunting down the docbook packages for redhat. I'd guess that by this point you've probably built the binearies for ghc, if that's all you're after. For what it's worth, I've just got ghc to build from CVS, so it can be done (if you have a few hours to kill). Cheers, M.
Re: ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm (was: ghc to be dropped from potato (debian)
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Peter Hancock wrote: Somewhat related to this, ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm has a problem. It builds OK (taking several hours on my machine) till the very end, then dies trying to invoke some program called db2dvi. I can't find a redhat package that contains this. See the docs, you need the Cygnus DocBook tools from sourceware.cygnus.com (I think; check the installation notes for the correct URL). -- http://sc3d.org/rrt/ | certain, a. insufficiently analysed
Re: ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm (was: ghc to be dropped from potato (debian)
I really keep hoping someone will make ghc (esp when merged with hugs) much easier to set up and use. I would love to just be able to do an install-shield install on windows for example. I realize that it is somewhat silly to make such demands of people doing this of there own free will, but such a thing should contribute to more people using haskell. I only got ghc to work after many false starts (all my fault, but still .. on windows. On slackware it worked right away, i think :) On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Peter Hancock wrote: Somewhat related to this, ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm has a problem. It builds OK (taking several hours on my machine) till the very end, then dies trying to invoke some program called db2dvi. I can't find a redhat package that contains this. See the docs, you need the Cygnus DocBook tools from sourceware.cygnus.com (I think; check the installation notes for the correct URL). -- http://sc3d.org/rrt/ | certain, a. insufficiently analysed
Re: ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm (was: ghc to be dropped from potato (debian)
Peter Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, Somewhat related to this, ghc-4.06-1.src.rpm has a problem. It builds OK (taking several hours on my machine) till the very end, then dies trying to invoke some program called db2dvi. I can't find a redhat package that contains this. As already pointed out by some people, you need the DocBook tools to build the documentation. The problem here is that I wanted to include the documentation into the binary rpms. I realised that this will make it more difficult to use the `src.rpm', but binaries without the documentation wouldn't be good either. Maybe I can make the building of the documentation conditional (but then I can already imagine the ``I build from source and now can't find the documentation bug reports''). Any ideas? It would be great if at least one haskell system could get into the standard linux distributions. For one thing, there's a dearth of decent music software under linux. Haskore could be a good foundation for filling some of that gap. Sure - any idea how to get Red Hat to include the stuff? Manuel
