Re: [Haskell-cafe] What's this pattern called?

2009-10-23 Thread Edward Kmett
I've often seen it referred to as the base functor for a recursive data
type. You can then fix that functor in interesting ways i.e. with (Fix,
Free, Cofree) and having the explicit base functor allows you to define
general purpose recursion schemes over the data type. All of that extra
machinery relies on your recursive data type being implemented as a functor
with an explicit fixpoint, so base 'functor' seems quite appropriate.

-Edward Kmett

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Martijn van Steenbergen 
mart...@van.steenbergen.nl wrote:

 Bonjour café,

  data ExprF r
  =  Add  r  r
  |  Sub  r  r
  |  Mul  r  r
  |  Div  r  r
  |  Num  Int


 This is a well-known pattern that for example allows nice notation of
 morphisms. But what is it called? I've heard fixed-point view, open
 datatypes and some others, but I'm curious where this pattern comes up in
 literature and what it is called there.

 Thanks,

 Martijn.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] why cannot i get the value of a IORef variable ?

2009-10-23 Thread Martijn van Steenbergen

Anton van Straaten wrote:

On the plus side, this does make for a slogan with high market appeal:

   Haskell: Kittens inside


Thanks. Now I have trouble getting this image of lambda-shaped bonsai 
kittens out of my head.


;-)

Martijn.

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[Haskell-cafe] Lazy problem ?

2009-10-23 Thread zaxis

ssqHitNum.txt contains data as below:
6 7 18 24 30 32 9
4 12 20 25 28 29 16
3 5 11 12 31 32 11
2 9 13 15 19 24 3
5 17 21 25 27 32 14
5 9 15 21 26 31 13
12 16 25 26 27 31 05
...

good_ssq_red:: IO [Int]
good_ssq_red = withFile ssqHitNum.txt ReadMode (\h - do {
samp - fmap str2Ints $ hGetContents h;
print samp;--without this line, the result will always [1..16]
return $ statis samp;
})

statis :: [Int] - [Int]
statis samp = take 16 $ map (\(a,b) - a) $ sortBy (\a b- if (snd a = snd
b) then LT else GT) $ times4n
where
times =  map (\n - (foldl (\acc x - if x==n then acc+1 else acc) 0
samp)) [1..33]
times4n = map (\n - (n,times!!(n-1))) [1..33]

Does it mean that the sampe will not be evalued with `print samp` line ?  

thanks!
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[Haskell-cafe] FW: Free Pizza, C++, and Haskell

2009-10-23 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
You may enjoy this interesting blog post by Bartosz Milewski about 
understanding C++ template metaprogramming by starting with Haskell.

http://bartoszmilewski.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/what-does-haskell-have-to-do-with-c/

Bartosz gave the talk at the Northwest C++ users group; the video for the talk 
will be linked eventually on the NWCPP website: http://nwcpp.org/

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Lazy problem ?

2009-10-23 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello zaxis,

Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:15:01 AM, you wrote:

 good_ssq_red = withFile ssqHitNum.txt ReadMode (\h - do {
 samp - fmap str2Ints $ hGetContents h;
 print samp;--without this line, the result will always [1..16]
 return $ statis samp;
 })

withFile and hGetContents shouldn't be used together. both closes file
handle and, here, withFile closes it before hGetContents lazily reads
data. it's why you need to force reading with print

use readFile instead



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[Haskell-cafe] Re: ANN: Data.Stream 0.4

2009-10-23 Thread Heinrich Apfelmus
Bas van Dijk wrote:
 1) What's the difference between your:
 tail ~(Cons _ xs) = xs
 and the more simple:
 tailStrict (Cons _ xs) = xs ?
 
 I know they're desugared to:
 tail ys = let Cons _ xs = ys in xs
 and:
 tailStrict ys = case ys of Cons _ xs - xs respectively.
 
 But aren't they operationally the same:
 
 tail undefined = undefined
 and:
 tailStrict undefined = undefined

I concur, a strict  tail  is enough. Writing

   foo xs = bar (tail xs)

has the same effect as

   foo xs = bar (tailStrict xs)

since the evaluation of  xs  is deferred in both cases.


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Lazy problem ?

2009-10-23 Thread zaxis

good_ssq_red:: IO [Int]
good_ssq_red =do { 
samp - fmap str2Ints $ readFile ssqHitNum.txt;
return $ statis samp;
} 
It works now !  thank you


Bulat Ziganshin-2 wrote:
 
 Hello zaxis,
 
 Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:15:01 AM, you wrote:
 
 good_ssq_red = withFile ssqHitNum.txt ReadMode (\h - do {
 samp - fmap str2Ints $ hGetContents h;
 print samp;--without this line, the result will always
 [1..16]
 return $ statis samp;
 })
 
 withFile and hGetContents shouldn't be used together. both closes file
 handle and, here, withFile closes it before hGetContents lazily reads
 data. it's why you need to force reading with print
 
 use readFile instead
 
 
 
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Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Lazy problem ?

2009-10-23 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello zaxis,

Friday, October 23, 2009, 12:02:57 PM, you wrote:

btw,

good_ssq_red = fmap (statis.str2Ints) $ readFile ssqHitNum.txt

or

good_ssq_red = (statis.str2Ints) `fmap` readFile ssqHitNum.txt


 good_ssq_red:: IO [Int]
 good_ssq_red =do { 
 samp - fmap str2Ints $ readFile ssqHitNum.txt;
 return $ statis samp;
 } 
 It works now !  thank you


 Bulat Ziganshin-2 wrote:
 
 Hello zaxis,
 
 Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:15:01 AM, you wrote:
 
 good_ssq_red = withFile ssqHitNum.txt ReadMode (\h - do {
 samp - fmap str2Ints $ hGetContents h;
 print samp;--without this line, the result will always
 [1..16]
 return $ statis samp;
 })
 
 withFile and hGetContents shouldn't be used together. both closes file
 handle and, here, withFile closes it before hGetContents lazily reads
 data. it's why you need to force reading with print
 
 use readFile instead
 
 
 
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[Haskell-cafe] Re: Time and space complexity of take k . sort

2009-10-23 Thread Heinrich Apfelmus
Paul Johnson wrote:
 Paul Johnson wrote:

   takeLargest k = take k . sort

 Because sort is lazily evaluated this only does enough sorting to
 find the first k elements.  I guess the complexity is something like
 O(n*k*log(k)).

 Correction: O(n*log(k))

It's  O(n + k log k)  (which is the same as  O(n + k log n) ):

   http://apfelmus.nfshost.com/quicksearch.html


The remark about O(k) space complexity of the other algorithm is
interesting, since this means that it's not even allowed to copy its
argument of size O(n) .


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Re: Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Lazy problem ?

2009-10-23 Thread Gregory Crosswhite

Or

good_ssq_red = readFile ssqHitNum.txt = return . statis . str2Ints

I personally prefer this because I like how the = illustrates that  
the result is being fed into return . statis . str2Ints, but it is a  
matter of style.  :-)


Cheers,
Greg


On Oct 23, 2009, at 1:09 AM, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:


Hello zaxis,

Friday, October 23, 2009, 12:02:57 PM, you wrote:

btw,

good_ssq_red = fmap (statis.str2Ints) $ readFile ssqHitNum.txt

or

good_ssq_red = (statis.str2Ints) `fmap` readFile ssqHitNum.txt



good_ssq_red:: IO [Int]
good_ssq_red =do {
   samp - fmap str2Ints $ readFile ssqHitNum.txt;
   return $ statis samp;
}
It works now !  thank you




Bulat Ziganshin-2 wrote:


Hello zaxis,

Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:15:01 AM, you wrote:


good_ssq_red = withFile ssqHitNum.txt ReadMode (\h - do {
   samp - fmap str2Ints $ hGetContents h;
   print samp;--without this line, the result will always
[1..16]
   return $ statis samp;
   })


withFile and hGetContents shouldn't be used together. both closes  
file
handle and, here, withFile closes it before hGetContents lazily  
reads

data. it's why you need to force reading with print

use readFile instead



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[Haskell-cafe] TimeZone bug?

2009-10-23 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds
Hi,
  As we know, CST could mean both +8 or -6 time zone. So I got a problem.
  In the same envoironment. When a ZonedTime is shown, I got x
CST. Now it means +8 time zone. Then I read it, stupidly, it turns
into -6 time zone.
  How could I fix this? I am using ghc 6.10.4 in rhel 5.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] What's this pattern called?

2009-10-23 Thread Martijn van Steenbergen

Thanks for all the pointers, guys. You've been very helpful.

I also found Type-indexed data types (Hinze et al) to be a good source.

Much appreciated!

Martijn.


Martijn van Steenbergen wrote:

data ExprF r


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: Data.Stream 0.4

2009-10-23 Thread Wouter Swierstra

1) What's the difference between your:
tail ~(Cons _ xs) = xs
and the more simple:
tailStrict (Cons _ xs) = xs ?


I'm no expert - but I can't think of any difference at all.


2) Why don't you also use an irrefutable pattern in take? take is
now defined as:


This is a trickier question: should take 0 undefined by [] or  
undefined? I'm not sure what the best choice is. I suppose it makes  
sense to stick with the behaviour of Data.List and return an empty  
list, even if any program that relies on this not being undefined is  
probably broken. I've uploaded a new version.


Thanks for your comments!

  Wouter

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[Haskell-cafe] Newbie has trouble using QuickCheck

2009-10-23 Thread steenreem

Hello.

I have made a simple test.hs file that imports the module QuickCheck.
However, when I load this module in ghci, it says that the module QuickCheck
is not found. I have looked in my haskell platform folder and find the
folder QuickCheck 1.2.0.0.

I also tried to :set -package QuickCheck.
This added QuickCheck to the list of loaded packages.
However when loading my test module it still says Could not find module
QuickCheck.
Locations searched were QuickCheck.hs and QuickCheck.lhs

What's wrong?
Thanks,
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Newbie has trouble using QuickCheck

2009-10-23 Thread Roel van Dijk
 What's wrong?

The package is called QuickCheck. The package consists of a number
of modules. The main module is called Test.QuickCheck.

So

import Test.QuickCheck

should bring all relevant symbols in scope.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Time Typeable Instances

2009-10-23 Thread Duncan Coutts
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 08:48 -0500, John Goerzen wrote:

 Now I'm getting complaints from people using 6.10.4 saying that there
 are now missing instances of Typeable with time 1.1.2.4.

Right, because 1.1.2.4 is an earlier version than 1.1.3 which is the
random intermediate snapshot version included in the ghc-6.10.3
extralibs collection and the version where the Typable instances were
added.

So the problem you're noticing is that some people are using 1.1.2.4 and
others are using 1.1.3 or 1.1.4 and these are not related to the version
of ghc that they are using, so using the ghc version as a proxy fails.

 1) Did the Typeable instances get dropped again from time?

No.

 2) What exactly should I do so this library compiles on GHC 6.8 and 6.10.x?

Depend on the time library and use one of the following techniques:

If you're prepared to depend on Cabal-1.6 then you can use the cpp
macros that let you do conditional compilation on the version of a
package you depend on. You mention that the time only incremented the
4th digit when it added the instances but I don't think that's right. My
time-1.1.2.4 has no Typeable instances but 1.1.4 does (and I believe
1.1.3 did too). So you should be able to use this mechanism.

Alternatively you can use the flag hack in the .cabal file:

flag annoying-time-instances

library
  ...
  if flag(annoying-time-instances)
build-depends: time = 1.1.3
  else
build-depends: time  1.1.3
cpp-options: -DUSE_OWN_TIME_TYPABLE_INSTANCES

 so it appears that what's happening here is that GHC 6.10.3 extralibs
 included time 1.1.3, but then haskell-platform standardized on 1.1.2.4.
  This is pretty annoying -- that haskell-platform would standardize on a
 version older than what shipped with a GHC release -- but I guess I can
 work around it by restricting my build-dep to be time  1.1.3 and
 re-adding the instances.

No, it's the haskell-platform that was and is doing the right thing and
it is ghc that subsequently accidentally shipped a random development
snapshot.

The platform has a commitment to provide API compatible versions of
packages within a major series. The first release of the platform used
time-1.1.2.4 (along with ghc-6.10.2) and thus it could not include the
time-1.1.3 that the subsequent release of ghc-6.10.3 accidentally
included.

Duncan

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] FW: Free Pizza, C++, and Haskell

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
Nice article from Bartosz , thanks for sharing this.

The best comment (and oh so true IMO) on his article is:

I agree, however, a little more familiarity than that may result in
the desire never to see another line of C++ again, so you have to be
careful.

Although learning Haskell improved my programming skills greatly, it
also took away some of the joy I had in other programming languages
like C++. C# 3.0  4.0 are the exception, it offers just the right
balance for me (maybe F# or Scala too, I don't have enough experience
with those). Maybe because Haskell had a fair bit of influence on C#?
At least that's what I could make out of this very enjoyable video of
Eric Meijer 
(http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/Going+Deep/Expert-to-Expert-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-Inside-the-NET-Reactive-Framework-Rx/)

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Simon Peyton-Jones
simo...@microsoft.com wrote:
 You may enjoy this interesting blog post by Bartosz Milewski about
 understanding C++ template metaprogramming by starting with Haskell.



 http://bartoszmilewski.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/what-does-haskell-have-to-do-with-c/



 Bartosz gave the talk at the Northwest C++ users group; the video for the
 talk will be linked eventually on the NWCPP website: http://nwcpp.org/



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[Haskell-cafe] Re: Help me improve design of my project.

2009-10-23 Thread Andy Stewart
Andy Stewart lazycat.mana...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi all,

 Okay, question is, IORefObject module and most module reference each
 other, so i will got `recursive reference problem` (looks how many
 .hs-boot in my project).
Current version compile fine.

The key is design of IORefObject, It's too close with Manatee.UI.*
modules, they're import each other, make i need .hs-boot file to avoid
recursive reference problem.

And those strongly connect components point that's a bad design at
IORefObject.

So any suggestions are welcome!

Thanks,

  -- Andy
 

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[Haskell-cafe] ANN: haskell-src-exts-1.2.0

2009-10-23 Thread Niklas Broberg
Fellow Haskelleers,

I'm pleased to announce the release of haskell-src-exts-1.2.0!

* On hackage: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/haskell-src-exts
* Via cabal: cabal install haskell-src-exts
* Darcs repo: http://code.haskell.org/haskell-src-exts

Version 1.2.0 is a new major release, following the PVP, as it
contains a few backwards-incompatible changes, as well as some major
changes that are supposedly backwards-compatible in theory, but as
much of it is new and untested in practice there may be some
regressions (bugs). The main new thing in 1.2.0 is the integration of
the Annotated machinery into the package proper, for instance all
parsing is now handled by the fully location-aware parser.

haskell-src-exts-1.2.0:


* Language.Haskell.Exts.Annotated.Simplify provides translation from
an annotated AST to the old simple AST.
* Behind-the-scenes integration of the new exact parser and lexer to
do all parsing (using the above mentioned simplifier if the old AST
version is requested).

* All syntactic nodes now derive Eq, Ord and Show.
* Pretty instance for SrcSpan.

* Top-level expressions are now treated as implicit TH splice
declarations (as per GHC HEAD). Note that this incurs a
non-backwards-compatible change to the AST.
* Empty data declarations may now have explicit kind annotations.
* AST (and Pretty/Exact) support for kind variables (not yet parser support).

* Error messages now extensively use prettyPrint instead of show for
AST elements and locations, leading to way neater messages.
* Bug fix to not crash ungracefully when encountering type equality
predicates in proper types.
* Liberalise line comments (as per GHC) to allow a line comment on the
last line of a source file.

Please help me test and report! Grab a darcs version, put your source
files in the Test/examples dir, and go cabal test (in the top dir).
Any failing cases not due to CPP or literate source files (for the
exact-printer), please report to the trac:
http://trac.haskell.org/haskell-src-exts

Cheers,

/Niklas
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[Haskell-cafe] Re: ANN: haskell-src-exts-1.2.0

2009-10-23 Thread Niklas Broberg
 * On hackage: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/haskell-src-exts
 * Via cabal: cabal install haskell-src-exts

Actually, it seems something went awry. I got a 500 Internal Server
Error on my cabal upload, the package is there on hackage but it seems
it was never added to the list of packages. This means cabal update
doesn't know about it, nor is it listed on the What's New page. Anyone
know what's up with that, and how it can be fixed?

Cheers,

/Niklas
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[Haskell-cafe] Re: \Statically checked binomail heaps?

2009-10-23 Thread Okasaki, C. DR EECS
Maciej Kotowicz asked about implementing binomial heaps using types to
enforce the shape invariants.  I dug up an old email from 1998 talking
about how to do this with nested types, and posted it to my blog:
http://okasaki.blogspot.com/2009/10/binomial-queues-as-nested-type.html

-- Chris

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[Haskell-cafe] Announcing: PastePipe -- a CLI for hpaste instances

2009-10-23 Thread Rogan Creswick
I'm happy to announce PastePipe (v1.3)!

PastePipe reads from stdin and publishes whatever it reads to the
hpaste instance of your choice (defaulting to hpaste.org).  This makes
it trivial to.

   * post a file to hpaste.org:   `cat file | pastepipe'
   * turn a terminal into a pastebin window: 'pastepipe'  (ctrl-d to
close  send)
   * upload error output as a paste: 'faultyProgram | pastepipe -t
faultyProgram error output -l bash'
   * paste to a local hpaste instance: 'pastepipe --uri
http://my.local.hpaste/fastcgi/hpaste.fgci/'
   * add a title, select different languages, specify a user name,
etc... see pastepipe --help for details.

PastePipe will output the resulting url for your new paste to stdout,
so you can script it, or just copy / paste that as you need.


Availability:
---

It is available on Hackage (so you can 'cabal install PastePipe'):
   http://hackage.haskell.org/package/PastePipe

The project for pastepipe is hosted at Google Code, with the source in
mercurial:
   Homepage (issue tracker, etc):  http://code.google.com/p/pastepipe/

Mercurial repo:
hg clone https://pastepipe.googlecode.com/hg/ pastepipe
---

Please let me know of any bugs / feature requests / etc. (or just post
them to the issue tracker.)

Thanks!
Rogan
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: ANN: haskell-src-exts-1.2.0

2009-10-23 Thread Martijn van Steenbergen

Niklas Broberg wrote:

Actually, it seems something went awry. I got a 500 Internal Server
Error on my cabal upload, the package is there on hackage but it seems
it was never added to the list of packages. This means cabal update
doesn't know about it, nor is it listed on the What's New page. Anyone
know what's up with that, and how it can be fixed?


I have exactly the same problem with the package I uploaded tonight. I 
sent Don and Duncan an email but I don't know whether they are the right 
people to bother.


Martijn.

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[Haskell-cafe] What does :*: mean again?

2009-10-23 Thread Günther Schmidt

Günther

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] What does :*: mean again?

2009-10-23 Thread Jake McArthur

Nothing by itself. It's just a definable constructor of some sort.

- Jake
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] What does :*: mean again?

2009-10-23 Thread Don Stewart
gue.schmidt:
 Günther



Usually it is a strict product. It's just a type constructor of some sort though
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[Haskell-cafe] Haskell Weekly News: Issue 136 - October 24, 2009

2009-10-23 Thread jfredett

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Haskell Weekly News
http://sequence.complete.org/hwn/20091024
Issue 136 - October 24, 2009
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   Welcome to issue 136 of HWN, a newsletter covering developments in the
   [1]Haskell community.

   Short one this week, I have GREs today, so I've spent more time
   aggregating GRE knowledge rather than Haskell news. Till next week,
   Haskellers, The Haskell Weekly News!

Announcements

   PastePipe -- a CLI for hpaste instances. Rogan Creswick [2]announced a
   new version of PastePipe, a library which reads from stdin and posts it
   to an hpaste instance (defaulting to hpaste.org)

   haskell-src-exts-1.2.0. Niklas Broberg [3]announced a major release of
   haskell-src-exts. Several breaking changes, a few (ideally) backwards
   compatable changes. See the post for all the details.

   mecha-0.0.0. Tom Hawkins [4]announced a very cool new DSL in Haskell
   for Constructive Solid Modelling.

   GPipe 1.02 and Vec-Transform 1.0.1. Tobias Bexelius [5]announced new
   versions of these packages, only a few API changes

   Data.Stream 0.4. Wouter Swierstra [6]announced a very delicate change
   to Data.Stream involving irrefutable patterns. Specifically added them
   in functions which produce new streams from old.

   strptime bindings. Eugene Kirpichov [7]announced bindings to strptime.

   cereal-0.2. Trevor Elliott [8]announced a new version of the cereal
   library, a variation on the `binary` package which provides strict
   parsing.

   quickcheck-poly. Ki Yung Ahn [9]announced a package for testing
   polymorphic functions automatically.

   2nd CFP: JSC Special Issue on Automated Verification and Specification
   of Web Systems. demis [10]announced a special issue of the Journal of
   Symbolic Computation. The issue contains articles relating to Automated
   Specification and Verification of Web Systems.

   qtHaskell-1.1.3. David Harley [11]announced a new version of qtHaskell.

Discussion

   Is there in Haskell the eval function? Waldemar Biernacki [12]asked
   about an `eval` function for Haskell.

   What's this pattern called? Martijn van Steenbergen [13]asked about a
   common pattern for an simple EDSL AST-like type.

   Problems with Haskell. Philippos Apolinarius [14]forwarded his response
   to a [15]Clean programmer who planned a move to Haskell upon fears of
   Clean being around for the long term. A very nice read.

   Statically checked binomail heaps? Maciej Kotowicz [16]talked about his
   implementation of Statically Checked Binomial Heaps in Haskell

Blog noise

   [17]Haskell news from the [18]blogosphere. Blog posts from people new
   to the Haskell community are marked with , be sure to welcome them!
 * Mikael Vejdemo Johansson (Syzygy-): [19][MATH198] Lecture 5 is up.
 * JP Moresmau: [20]Releasing my code on the unsuspecting public
   (EclipseFP).
 * Neil Brown: [21]Benchmarking STM with Criterion.
 * Galois, Inc: .
 * Brent Yorgey: [22]Typeclassopedia in Japanese!.
 * Neil Brown: [23]An early look at ThreadScope, a tool for profiling
   concurrent and parallel Haskell programs.
 * FP-Syd: [24]Sydney FP Group: FP-Syd #19..
 * Michael Snoyman: [25]Monadic pairs and Kleisli arrows.
 * Martijn van Steenbergen: [26]Transforming polymorphic values.
 * Manuel M T Chakravarty: [27]Multicore Haskell Now!.
 * Don Stewart (dons): [28]Multicore Haskell Now! ACM Reflections |
   Projections 2009.
 * Dan Piponi (sigfpe): [29]What Category do Haskell Types and
   Functions Live In?.
 * Manuel M T Chakravarty: [30]Don Stewart's talk on Domain Specific
   Languages and Haskell.

Quotes of the Week

 * Veinor: I program in austere haskell. I name all my variables a,
   a', a'', a''', etc
 * ddarius: releases network version 127.0.0.1
 * Berengal: 'Bobby Boolean felt horrible. What did he ever do to the
   other values? He was just a simple bit, a simple answer to a simple
   question! Suddenly he felt his insides churn; he felt an exception
   coming on! Oh no! What should he do, now that he was outside of
   IO?'
 * Berengal: 'Go away! You're not like us! the other values yelled.
   You're impure! Impure! Impure! Impure! they started chanting.'
 * dpratt71: dpratt71 so I read somewhere that the unofficial motto
   of Haskell was avoid success at all costs... Baughn dpratt71:
   Yeah. We failed.
 * Warrigal: Note to self: don't do maximum [1..].
 * mauke: the first and foremost task of a haskell compiler is to
   break haskell programs
 * ksf: ...premature generalisation is the root of all
   procrastination.
 * jimi_hendrix: that took longer than it should have, but it feels so
   pure
 * ddarius: Unfortunately, the logic programming community has this
   unhealthy death grip on Prolog.