[Haskell-cafe] A thought on the LinkedIn spam and an upstream spam filter

2013-09-23 Thread damodar kulkarni
Hello,
Sorry for dwelling on a spammy topic. If you are NOT interested in this
then please accept my regret and let me assure you that this is NOT to add
to the existing spam. If you still are unconvinced, then the only thing I
can tell you is sorry, accept my apologies for wasting your time and
please stop reading further.

Okay, here is what I thought of it.
Yesterday I sent a mail as a response to a spam from LinkedIn to the cafe.
I don't know how, but part of my mail text was missing. (I must have
pressed Ctrl-C instead of Ctrl-V to paste the text from another file.)

I had thought of an idea which I call upstream spam filter.

Anyway here is the text:
I thought, some people here on the list, who might have links with the
higher-ups at linked-in might bring the issue to their notice and would
make them *register* the Haskell-Cafe list on their server so that they
never send a spam to the entire list. They should install such an upstream
spam filter. This upstream spam filter based solution would be more
effective in culling spam as compared to solutions based on
requesting/heckling individual linked-in subscribers to take some action at
his/her end. Note that here the individual may or may not be doing
intentional spamming BUT the linkedin is *hiding* behind the subscribers'
ignorance.

I propose that more *influential* people on the list demand that the
linked-in company should provide a way to register some emails (e.g.
mailing lists) which they SHOULD spare from their spamming machines.

I have already tried communicating with them but was unsuccessful.

Is there any DND like service, at least, to force these big companies (like
linked-in), who are happily spamming the world, behave properly?[1]

Please send such protest mails to the personal email ids of the linked-in
(and other such companies) top brass or other linkedin top level technical
staff, if you know them.
If anybody on this list is working for linkedin, then this mail is for you
too.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Disturb_%28telecommunications%29

Thanks and regards,
-Damodar Kulkarni


On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:43 AM, MigMit miguelim...@yandex.ru wrote:

 So, instead of emailing this guy and asking him to change the address in
 his LinkedIn profile (which is simple, since he did write a lot to café),
 you decided to continue spamming the mailing list.

 Nice

 Отправлено с iPad

 22 сент. 2013 г., в 21:31, damodar kulkarni kdamodar2...@gmail.com
 написал(а):

 What a surprise, I didn't know the real name of Haskell Cafe till date,
 BUT today I came to know it: it is Minh Thu V.

 linked in sucks ...


 Thanks and regards,
 -Damodar Kulkarni


 On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Kyle Hanson via LinkedIn 
 mem...@linkedin.com wrote:


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   Hi Minh Thu,

   I'd like to connect with you on LinkedIn.


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] A thought on the LinkedIn spam and an upstream spam filter

2013-09-23 Thread Vo Minh Thu
Hi,

Thanks for the heads-up.

I have just checked my email addresses registered on linkedin: I had three
of them, my regular email address (this one), me previous work address,
which I never added myself, and haskell-cafe, which I did not add myself
either.

My regular address was labeled as primary, the haskell-cafe not, and a link
to confirm my work address was visible next to it, but not for
haskell-cafe.

Looking up in my emails, I have indeed received twice on invitation from
the same person, once to my regular address, and once via haskell-cafe. The
fact it was via haskell-cafe was not visible in gmail interface.

I have removed the hasell-cafe and my previous work addresses.

I don't think I have done something wrong (and I guess LinkedIn did), but
anyway, sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks,
Thu


2013/9/23 damodar kulkarni kdamodar2...@gmail.com

 Hello,
 Sorry for dwelling on a spammy topic. If you are NOT interested in this
 then please accept my regret and let me assure you that this is NOT to add
 to the existing spam. If you still are unconvinced, then the only thing I
 can tell you is sorry, accept my apologies for wasting your time and
 please stop reading further.

 Okay, here is what I thought of it.
 Yesterday I sent a mail as a response to a spam from LinkedIn to the cafe.
 I don't know how, but part of my mail text was missing. (I must have
 pressed Ctrl-C instead of Ctrl-V to paste the text from another file.)

 I had thought of an idea which I call upstream spam filter.

 Anyway here is the text:
 I thought, some people here on the list, who might have links with the
 higher-ups at linked-in might bring the issue to their notice and would
 make them *register* the Haskell-Cafe list on their server so that they
 never send a spam to the entire list. They should install such an upstream
 spam filter. This upstream spam filter based solution would be more
 effective in culling spam as compared to solutions based on
 requesting/heckling individual linked-in subscribers to take some action at
 his/her end. Note that here the individual may or may not be doing
 intentional spamming BUT the linkedin is *hiding* behind the subscribers'
 ignorance.

 I propose that more *influential* people on the list demand that the
 linked-in company should provide a way to register some emails (e.g.
 mailing lists) which they SHOULD spare from their spamming machines.

 I have already tried communicating with them but was unsuccessful.

 Is there any DND like service, at least, to force these big companies
 (like linked-in), who are happily spamming the world, behave properly?[1]

 Please send such protest mails to the personal email ids of the linked-in
 (and other such companies) top brass or other linkedin top level technical
 staff, if you know them.
 If anybody on this list is working for linkedin, then this mail is for you
 too.
 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Disturb_%28telecommunications%29

 Thanks and regards,
 -Damodar Kulkarni


 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:43 AM, MigMit miguelim...@yandex.ru wrote:

 So, instead of emailing this guy and asking him to change the address in
 his LinkedIn profile (which is simple, since he did write a lot to café),
 you decided to continue spamming the mailing list.

 Nice

 Отправлено с iPad

 22 сент. 2013 г., в 21:31, damodar kulkarni kdamodar2...@gmail.com
 написал(а):

 What a surprise, I didn't know the real name of Haskell Cafe till date,
 BUT today I came to know it: it is Minh Thu V.

 linked in sucks ...


 Thanks and regards,
 -Damodar Kulkarni


 On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Kyle Hanson via LinkedIn 
 mem...@linkedin.com wrote:


   [image: LinkedIn]
 http://www.linkedin.com/e/uc6lxc-hlw276p4-5e/hom/?hs=falsetok=1F1OVFpS1PWlU1




   Hi Minh Thu,

   I'd like to connect with you on LinkedIn.


 Accepthttp://www.linkedin.com/e/uc6lxc-hlw276p4-5e/XvIdBwmueHfd6vFMPXXdLaqreCbl5oOSpPTFPU/blk/I943132921_20/1Bt6BSrCBTpmUJt71BoSdxbm8JrnpKqlZJrmZzbmNJpjRQnOpBtn9QfmhBt71BoSd1p65Lr6lOfP0OnP4Oej8PcjcQekALpQcJlDxQrDwLc3wRcP4Qc3gTdz4LrCBxbOYWrSlI/eml-comm_invm-b-accept-newinvite/?hs=falsetok=3WsXkZaBdPWlU1

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 Hansonhttp://www.linkedin.com/e/uc6lxc-hlw276p4-5e/rso/60831967/_LLG/name/22724543_I943132921_20/eml-comm_invm-b-name-newinvite/?hs=falsetok=2JMZQUFRhPWlU1

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