Re: [Haskell-cafe] Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced

2012-02-14 Thread Thomas Schilling
As Heinrich said, write a proposal.  It's a good idea to write one (or
more) before the actual deadline since that will leave enough time for
discussion.  The proposal is not just between you and the mentors -- it's a
good thing to have a public discussion about this, and it's a good way to
find a mentor for you.

On 14 February 2012 10:28, Andrei Varanovich  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> One question to more experienced GSoC'ers. I do understand that this is
> important to find mentors in advance.
> As soon as I think nowadays it is critical for the programming language
> ecosystem to handle BigData [1], have a proposal to implement HDFS [1]
> support for CloudHaskell [2] with some MapReduce abstractions.
>
> What would be the "right" way to communicate with potential mentors? I
> looked at http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/summer-of-code/ and it seems
> there is not so much going on there. Or, perhaps, this mailing list is just
> OK?
>
> [1]
> http://www.mckinsey.com/Insights/MGI/Research/Technology_and_Innovation/Big_data_The_next_frontier_for_innovation
> [2] http://hadoop.apache.org/hdfs/
> [3] https://github.com/jepst/CloudHaskell
>
> Thanks,
> Andrei
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Sergiu Ivanov <
> unlimitedscol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Heinrich Apfelmus
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > What's the time frame for project proposals? I have two ideas in my head
>> > that I think are unusually cool. To make a successful SOC project, they
>> need
>> > a bit of preparation on my part, though, so I'm wondering how much time
>> I
>> > have to implement a proof of concept or two.
>>
>> This is the official timeline:
>>
>> http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#timeline
>>
>> Looking forward to reading your übercool proposals :-)
>>
>> Sergiu
>>
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced

2012-02-14 Thread Heinrich Apfelmus

Johan Tibell wrote:

Hi all,

Here's a heads-up that this year's Google of Code is kicking off. My
experience from the last few years is that we can maximize the output we
get from GSoC by being proactive and writing down semi-detailed
explanations of what kind of projects we'd like to see, instead of letting
the students pick themselves.


Here we go, I've written up a proposal:

http://apfelmus.nfshost.com/blog/2012/02/14-summer-of-code-proposal.html


Best regards,
Heinrich Apfelmus

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced

2012-02-14 Thread Heinrich Apfelmus

Sergiu Ivanov wrote:

Heinrich Apfelmus wrote:

What's the time frame for project proposals? I have two ideas in my head
that I think are unusually cool. To make a successful SOC project, they need
a bit of preparation on my part, though, so I'm wondering how much time I
have to implement a proof of concept or two.


This is the official timeline:
http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#timeline

Looking forward to reading your übercool proposals :-)


Ok, I gather that project proposals should be ready around 17 March 2012.


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced

2012-02-14 Thread Heinrich Apfelmus

Andrei Varanovich wrote:


One question to more experienced GSoC'ers. I do understand that this is
important to find mentors in advance.
As soon as I think nowadays it is critical for the programming language
ecosystem to handle BigData [1], have a proposal to implement HDFS [1]
support for CloudHaskell [2] with some MapReduce abstractions.

What would be the "right" way to communicate with potential mentors? I
looked at http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/summer-of-code/ and it seems
there is not so much going on there. Or, perhaps, this mailing list is just
OK?


I think that Johan Tibell's advice applies to students as well: if you 
have a project idea, then


1. Write a proposal that will make people cheer and swoon. In 
particular, it should be useful to a lot of people from the Haskell 
community and you should demonstrate why you're capable of completing 
it, for instance by finding a very good scope for the project or maybe 
because your first name rhymes with Simon.


2. Advertise it on the mailing list and/or reddit and/or Google+, so 
that people can read it and give feedback. Incorporating said feedback 
is a good idea.


3. If the proposal piques everyone's interest, I'm sure that someone 
will volunteer to be a mentor.



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Heinrich Apfelmus

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced

2012-02-14 Thread Andrei Varanovich
Hi all,

One question to more experienced GSoC'ers. I do understand that this is
important to find mentors in advance.
As soon as I think nowadays it is critical for the programming language
ecosystem to handle BigData [1], have a proposal to implement HDFS [1]
support for CloudHaskell [2] with some MapReduce abstractions.

What would be the "right" way to communicate with potential mentors? I
looked at http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/summer-of-code/ and it seems
there is not so much going on there. Or, perhaps, this mailing list is just
OK?

[1]
http://www.mckinsey.com/Insights/MGI/Research/Technology_and_Innovation/Big_data_The_next_frontier_for_innovation
[2] http://hadoop.apache.org/hdfs/
[3] https://github.com/jepst/CloudHaskell

Thanks,
Andrei

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Sergiu Ivanov
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Heinrich Apfelmus
>  wrote:
> >
> > What's the time frame for project proposals? I have two ideas in my head
> > that I think are unusually cool. To make a successful SOC project, they
> need
> > a bit of preparation on my part, though, so I'm wondering how much time I
> > have to implement a proof of concept or two.
>
> This is the official timeline:
>
> http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#timeline
>
> Looking forward to reading your übercool proposals :-)
>
> Sergiu
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced

2012-02-13 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello,

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Heinrich Apfelmus
 wrote:
>
> What's the time frame for project proposals? I have two ideas in my head
> that I think are unusually cool. To make a successful SOC project, they need
> a bit of preparation on my part, though, so I'm wondering how much time I
> have to implement a proof of concept or two.

This is the official timeline:
http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#timeline

Looking forward to reading your übercool proposals :-)

Sergiu

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced

2012-02-13 Thread Johan Tibell
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Heinrich Apfelmus <
apfel...@quantentunnel.de> wrote:

> What's the time frame for project proposals? I have two ideas in my head
> that I think are unusually cool. To make a successful SOC project, they
> need a bit of preparation on my part, though, so I'm wondering how much
> time I have to implement a proof of concept or two.
>

I suggest having the project proposals ready and published by the time the
application window for students opens. The timeline should be on the GSoC
site.

-- Johan
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced

2012-02-13 Thread Heinrich Apfelmus

Johan Tibell wrote:

Here's a heads-up that this year's Google of Code is kicking off. My
experience from the last few years is that we can maximize the output we
get from GSoC by being proactive and writing down semi-detailed
explanations of what kind of projects we'd like to see, instead of letting
the students pick themselves*.


What's the time frame for project proposals? I have two ideas in my head 
that I think are unusually cool. To make a successful SOC project, they 
need a bit of preparation on my part, though, so I'm wondering how much 
time I have to implement a proof of concept or two.



Best regards,
Heinrich Apfelmus

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced

2012-02-06 Thread Rogan Creswick
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Johan Tibell  wrote:
>
>  2. Advertise the projects on haskell-cafe, reddit, twitter, Google+

Does anyone know if the GSOC trac is in use this year? (or will be?).

I started advocating for an extension to cabal to specify Setup.hs
build dependencies last year, with this ticket:

http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/summer-of-code/ticket/1602

I think the idea still has merit :)  If anyone has comments, that
would be a great place to put them (to clarify anything I've
overlooked, point out shortcomings, suggest implementations, etc...).

--Rogan





>  3. Profit.
>
> * The students tend to not know what makes a good GSoC project and often aim
> for something too difficult, like writing a new project from scratch instead
> of contributing to an old one. Contributing to widely used libraries or
> infrastructure usually results in
>
>  * a larger benefit for the community, and
>  * the students sticking around.
>
> My guess is that the student tend to stick around after the project is done
> if they contribute to infrastructure projects, as they'll see their stuff
> get used and will get feature requests/bug reports that will make them
> continue working on the project.
>
> -- Johan
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Carol Smith 
> Date: Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM
> Subject: Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced
> To: Google Summer of Code Announce
> 
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> We're pleased to announce that Google Summer of Code will be happening
> for its eighth year this year. Please check out the blog post [1] about
> the program and read the FAQs [2] and Timeline [3] on Melange for
> more information.
>
> [1]
> - http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/02/google-summer-of-code-2012-is-on.html
> [2]
> - http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs
> [3] - http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012
>
> Cheers,
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[Haskell-cafe] Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced

2012-02-06 Thread Johan Tibell
Hi all,

Here's a heads-up that this year's Google of Code is kicking off. My
experience from the last few years is that we can maximize the output we
get from GSoC by being proactive and writing down semi-detailed
explanations of what kind of projects we'd like to see, instead of letting
the students pick themselves*. Here's three examples of such write-ups I
did last year:

http://blog.johantibell.com/2011/03/summer-of-code-project-suggestions.html

Concretely:

 1. Write down the project suggestions somewhere (e.g. on the wiki, your
blog, etc).
 2. Advertise the projects on haskell-cafe, reddit, twitter, Google+
 3. Profit.

* The students tend to not know what makes a good GSoC project and often
aim for something too difficult, like writing a new project from scratch
instead of contributing to an old one. Contributing to widely used
libraries or infrastructure usually results in

 * a larger benefit for the community, and
 * the students sticking around.

My guess is that the student tend to stick around after the project is done
if they contribute to infrastructure projects, as they'll see their stuff
get used and will get feature requests/bug reports that will make them
continue working on the project.

-- Johan

-- Forwarded message --
From: Carol Smith 
Date: Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM
Subject: Google Summer of Code 2012 Announced
To: Google Summer of Code Announce <
google-summer-of-code-annou...@googlegroups.com>


Hi all,

We're pleased to announce that Google Summer of Code will be happening
for its eighth year this year. Please check out the blog post [1] about
the program and read the FAQs [2] and Timeline [3] on Melange for
more information.

[1] -
http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/02/google-summer-of-code-2012-is-on.html
[2] -
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs
[3] - http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012

Cheers,
Carol

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