Re: [Haskell-cafe] Idea for a tool

2010-10-20 Thread Michael Snoyman
Alright, the tool is up and incredibly basic right now. Go to:
http://packdeps.haskellers.com/, type a search string, and hit enter.
The site will filter through all of the cabal files for the most
recent releases of each package and select the ones where your search
string appears in the package name, maintainer and/or author fields.

>From those packages, it will check to see if there are any
upper-bounds restrictions excluding a package. The results are
returned as an Atom feed, so you can easily add this to a reader or
maybe even sign up for email alerts[1].

Let me know if there are any bugs, eventually I'll put up some proper
information on the page describing what's going on there. Oh, and the
package database gets refreshed every 6 hours.

Michael

[1] http://www.feedmyinbox.com/

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Michael Snoyman  wrote:
> Well, here's an initial, ugly version of this tool. Feed it two
> command line arguments: a cabal file, and the 00-index.tar file in the
> .cabal/packages/hackage.haskell.org folder. More work to follow.
>
> Michael
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Neil Mitchell  wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I want this tool. I fake it slightly by using my RSS reader and
>> http://page2rss.com/ to get notified when any packages I depend on
>> change, which basically works - but if you could provide a better
>> service (ideally integrated in to hackage), I'd use it.
>>
>> Thanks, Neil
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Bas van Dijk  wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Michael Snoyman  
>>> wrote:
 Hi all,

 I saw a quote from Eric Kow via Neil Mitchell[1] that we don't spend
 enough time writing tools. Well, I've decided that the most annoying
 part of package maintainership right now is staying on top of new
 versions of dependencies. We essentially have two options right now:

 * Follow the PVP and put an upper bound on all dependencies, and
 people will be upset when your package only works with the old version
 of the dependency.
 * Skip the upper bound, and risk having your code break when there's a
 new version.

 I have an idea for a tool: you give it a list of packages you
 maintain, or even better yet, you give it your email address and it
 gets that list automatically. Then is looks through all your
 dependencies and sees if you have any upper bounds preventing newer
 versions from being used. Bonus points for making it a web service
 that just gives you an RSS feed.

 If anyone's interested in writing a tool like that, let me know.
 Otherwise, next time I'm twiddling my thumbs I'll try to throw it
 together. I've never dealt directly with the Cabal library, but
 there's a first time for everything. If someone else wants to write
 that tool and wants help sticking a web service on it, let me know.

 Michael

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>>>
>>> This would be a nice feature for the new hackage server:
>>> http://sparky.haskell.org:8080
>>>
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Idea for a tool

2010-10-20 Thread Michael Snoyman
Well, here's an initial, ugly version of this tool. Feed it two
command line arguments: a cabal file, and the 00-index.tar file in the
.cabal/packages/hackage.haskell.org folder. More work to follow.

Michael

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Neil Mitchell  wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> I want this tool. I fake it slightly by using my RSS reader and
> http://page2rss.com/ to get notified when any packages I depend on
> change, which basically works - but if you could provide a better
> service (ideally integrated in to hackage), I'd use it.
>
> Thanks, Neil
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Bas van Dijk  wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Michael Snoyman  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I saw a quote from Eric Kow via Neil Mitchell[1] that we don't spend
>>> enough time writing tools. Well, I've decided that the most annoying
>>> part of package maintainership right now is staying on top of new
>>> versions of dependencies. We essentially have two options right now:
>>>
>>> * Follow the PVP and put an upper bound on all dependencies, and
>>> people will be upset when your package only works with the old version
>>> of the dependency.
>>> * Skip the upper bound, and risk having your code break when there's a
>>> new version.
>>>
>>> I have an idea for a tool: you give it a list of packages you
>>> maintain, or even better yet, you give it your email address and it
>>> gets that list automatically. Then is looks through all your
>>> dependencies and sees if you have any upper bounds preventing newer
>>> versions from being used. Bonus points for making it a web service
>>> that just gives you an RSS feed.
>>>
>>> If anyone's interested in writing a tool like that, let me know.
>>> Otherwise, next time I'm twiddling my thumbs I'll try to throw it
>>> together. I've never dealt directly with the Cabal library, but
>>> there's a first time for everything. If someone else wants to write
>>> that tool and wants help sticking a web service on it, let me know.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> [1] http://neilmitchell.blogspot.com/2010/10/enhanced-cabal-sdist.html
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>>
>> This would be a nice feature for the new hackage server:
>> http://sparky.haskell.org:8080
>>
>> Bas
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Idea for a tool

2010-10-20 Thread Neil Mitchell
Hi Michael,

I want this tool. I fake it slightly by using my RSS reader and
http://page2rss.com/ to get notified when any packages I depend on
change, which basically works - but if you could provide a better
service (ideally integrated in to hackage), I'd use it.

Thanks, Neil

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Bas van Dijk  wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Michael Snoyman  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I saw a quote from Eric Kow via Neil Mitchell[1] that we don't spend
>> enough time writing tools. Well, I've decided that the most annoying
>> part of package maintainership right now is staying on top of new
>> versions of dependencies. We essentially have two options right now:
>>
>> * Follow the PVP and put an upper bound on all dependencies, and
>> people will be upset when your package only works with the old version
>> of the dependency.
>> * Skip the upper bound, and risk having your code break when there's a
>> new version.
>>
>> I have an idea for a tool: you give it a list of packages you
>> maintain, or even better yet, you give it your email address and it
>> gets that list automatically. Then is looks through all your
>> dependencies and sees if you have any upper bounds preventing newer
>> versions from being used. Bonus points for making it a web service
>> that just gives you an RSS feed.
>>
>> If anyone's interested in writing a tool like that, let me know.
>> Otherwise, next time I'm twiddling my thumbs I'll try to throw it
>> together. I've never dealt directly with the Cabal library, but
>> there's a first time for everything. If someone else wants to write
>> that tool and wants help sticking a web service on it, let me know.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> [1] http://neilmitchell.blogspot.com/2010/10/enhanced-cabal-sdist.html
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> This would be a nice feature for the new hackage server:
> http://sparky.haskell.org:8080
>
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Idea for a tool

2010-10-20 Thread Bas van Dijk
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Michael Snoyman  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I saw a quote from Eric Kow via Neil Mitchell[1] that we don't spend
> enough time writing tools. Well, I've decided that the most annoying
> part of package maintainership right now is staying on top of new
> versions of dependencies. We essentially have two options right now:
>
> * Follow the PVP and put an upper bound on all dependencies, and
> people will be upset when your package only works with the old version
> of the dependency.
> * Skip the upper bound, and risk having your code break when there's a
> new version.
>
> I have an idea for a tool: you give it a list of packages you
> maintain, or even better yet, you give it your email address and it
> gets that list automatically. Then is looks through all your
> dependencies and sees if you have any upper bounds preventing newer
> versions from being used. Bonus points for making it a web service
> that just gives you an RSS feed.
>
> If anyone's interested in writing a tool like that, let me know.
> Otherwise, next time I'm twiddling my thumbs I'll try to throw it
> together. I've never dealt directly with the Cabal library, but
> there's a first time for everything. If someone else wants to write
> that tool and wants help sticking a web service on it, let me know.
>
> Michael
>
> [1] http://neilmitchell.blogspot.com/2010/10/enhanced-cabal-sdist.html
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This would be a nice feature for the new hackage server:
http://sparky.haskell.org:8080

Bas
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[Haskell-cafe] Idea for a tool

2010-10-19 Thread Michael Snoyman
Hi all,

I saw a quote from Eric Kow via Neil Mitchell[1] that we don't spend
enough time writing tools. Well, I've decided that the most annoying
part of package maintainership right now is staying on top of new
versions of dependencies. We essentially have two options right now:

* Follow the PVP and put an upper bound on all dependencies, and
people will be upset when your package only works with the old version
of the dependency.
* Skip the upper bound, and risk having your code break when there's a
new version.

I have an idea for a tool: you give it a list of packages you
maintain, or even better yet, you give it your email address and it
gets that list automatically. Then is looks through all your
dependencies and sees if you have any upper bounds preventing newer
versions from being used. Bonus points for making it a web service
that just gives you an RSS feed.

If anyone's interested in writing a tool like that, let me know.
Otherwise, next time I'm twiddling my thumbs I'll try to throw it
together. I've never dealt directly with the Cabal library, but
there's a first time for everything. If someone else wants to write
that tool and wants help sticking a web service on it, let me know.

Michael

[1] http://neilmitchell.blogspot.com/2010/10/enhanced-cabal-sdist.html
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