[Haskell-cafe] Re: Announcement: Beta of Leksah IDE available
David Waern wrote: 2009/4/2 Duncan Coutts : On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 22:13 +0200, David Waern wrote: 2009/4/1 jutaro : I guess you mean the dialog which should help leksah to find sources for installed packages. It needs this so you can go to all the definitions in the base packages ... This is very handy if it works. Look to the manual for details. Maybe could add support to Cabal for installing sources? Should be very useful to have in general. http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/ticket/364 Jutaru, perhaps a nice Hackathon project? :-) I think there's some design work to do there. See the discussion on the GHC ticket: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/2630. In short: just keeping the source code around isn't enough. You need some metadata in order to make sense of the source code - for example, you can't feed the source code to the GHC API without knowing which additional flags need to be passed, and those come from the .cabal file. Also you probably want to stash the results of the 'cabal configure' step so that you can get a view of the source code that is consistent with the version(s?) you compiled. We need to think about about backwards and forwards-compatibility of whatever metadata format is used. And then you'll need Cabal APIs to extract the metadata. So we need to think about what APIs make sense, and the best way to do that is to think about what tool(s) you want to write and use that to drive the API design. Perhaps all this is going a bit too far. Maybe we want to just stash the source code and accept that there are some things that you just can't do with it. However, I imagine that pretty soon people will want to feed the source code into the GHC API, and at that point we have to tackle the build metadata issues. Cheers, Simon ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Announcement: Beta of Leksah IDE available
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Benjamin L.Russell wrote: Your logo, a lowercase lambda merged with an inverted version of the same sharing a single spine, loosely resembles an uppercase 'H', and could possibly serve as a Haskell logo. It is simple, can represent simultaneously both "lambda" and "Haskell," and can easily be enlarged or reduced without loss of legibility. Why didn't you submit it in the Haskell Logo Competition? Because it is already the Leksah logo? :-) ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] Re: Announcement: Beta of Leksah IDE available
Your logo, a lowercase lambda merged with an inverted version of the same sharing a single spine, loosely resembles an uppercase 'H', and could possibly serve as a Haskell logo. It is simple, can represent simultaneously both "lambda" and "Haskell," and can easily be enlarged or reduced without loss of legibility. Why didn't you submit it in the Haskell Logo Competition? The next time this competition comes around, if you don't mind, please submit this logo as an entry! -- Benjamin L. Russell -- Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." -- Matsuo Basho^ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] Re: Announcement: Beta of Leksah IDE available
J__rgen Nicklisch-Franken wrote: > So I please the members of the community to pause for a moment and try > out Leksah with a benevolent attitude. > I did (the previous version, tbh), and couldn't find anything to seriously bicker about... a few problems regarding metadata generation, but that was dealt with as soon as I RTFM'ed. Ah, yes, you shouldn't be able to close the toolbar by pressing on one of its buttons that incidentally looks just like the one to close a file. Completition already rocks, the interface is nicely configurable (although I resorted to editing config and session files instead of using gui commands[1]), project management worked out fine (after I figured out that I had to manually configure leksah to pass --user to cabal), all in all it's an impressive piece of code that radiates later uberness instead of lacking features. Last, but not least, it's _fast_, _way_ more zappy than eclipse. As far as basic IDE features are concerned, it's also complete. The one thing that keeps me from switching to it, right now, is the editor not being a vi. While gtksourceview might be, in theory, a usable editor, my muscle memory tells me otherwise. It'd be like switching to autoconf for C development instead of just copying over my beloved OMakefile. Providing refactoring support would make it irresistible... maybe it's time to add a plugin layer, so that things like vacuum or a wrapper around hp2ps can register themselves with leksah, without giving up their identity as stand-alone projects. Plugability is the one feature that made eclipse big, and it won't hurt leksah, either. [1] I utterly failed to figure out how to do stuff[2], seriously. Eclipse has a really nice drag&drop interface with visual feedback to rearrange stuff, but I'm not the kind of guy who drops a program for lacking such bells&whistles. [2] "Stuff" being rearranging divisions such that it's first split horizontally, the console/type view etc. taking up the bottom part and the upper part being split vertically into source view/module browser. I just can't stand wrapped lines on the console. Somehow, I think it should be the default arrangement. -- (c) this sig last receiving data processing entity. Inspect headers for copyright history. All rights reserved. Copying, hiring, renting, performance and/or quoting of this signature prohibited. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
