Re: [Haskell-cafe] Wiki user accounts

2009-06-14 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Gwern Branwen wrote:
...
> If I might suggest some users we might give the bit to: myself, dons,
> Magnus Therning, Neil Mitchell, and byorgey. All have been editing the
> wiki for some time, some have administrator experience on Wikipedia,
> and all have commit bits for various Haskell repos (and so presumably
> can be trusted). (Of course, this list isn't intended to be
> exhaustive; they're just who comes to mind looking over Recent
> Changes.)

I've spoken with John Peterson (the other admin/bureaucrat besides
Ashley), and he has no problem with giving these people the bit. If
there aren't any objections by next Saturday/Sunday, I will email him
and ask him to do so.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Wiki user accounts

2009-06-12 Thread Brent Yorgey
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:22:25PM +0200, Daniel Fischer wrote:
> Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 18:46:41 schrieb Gwern Branwen:
> > There are only 3 bureaucrats/admins; one is a dummy account, one is
> > Ashley, and one is John Peterson (who hasn't edited for a year).
> >
> > One solution would be to have Ashley re-enable user registrations.
> > This has been suggested before, but no one knows how bad the spam
> > would be. Another solution would be to sysop a few users to
> > admin/bureaucrat, so that even if a few are inactive or away, the rest
> > can handle requests.
> 
> I support that.
> 
> >
> > If I might suggest some users we might give the bit to: myself, dons,
> > Magnus Therning, Neil Mitchell, and byorgey.
> 
> I consider these users trustworthy.
> Which of them besides Gwern are willing to take the job?

Fine with me.

-Brent
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Wiki user accounts

2009-06-12 Thread Felipe Lessa
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 07:53:41PM +0200, Thomas ten Cate wrote:
> This runs on MediaWiki, right? How about adding a CAPTCHA for account
> registrations?


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Wiki user accounts

2009-06-12 Thread Magnus Therning

Daniel Fischer wrote:

Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 18:46:41 schrieb Gwern Branwen:

There are only 3 bureaucrats/admins; one is a dummy account, one is
Ashley, and one is John Peterson (who hasn't edited for a year).

One solution would be to have Ashley re-enable user registrations.
This has been suggested before, but no one knows how bad the spam
would be. Another solution would be to sysop a few users to
admin/bureaucrat, so that even if a few are inactive or away, the rest
can handle requests.


I support that.


If I might suggest some users we might give the bit to: myself, dons,
Magnus Therning, Neil Mitchell, and byorgey.


I consider these users trustworthy.
Which of them besides Gwern are willing to take the job?


Cool, I'm up for it!

/M

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Wiki user accounts

2009-06-12 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 18:46:41 schrieb Gwern Branwen:
> There are only 3 bureaucrats/admins; one is a dummy account, one is
> Ashley, and one is John Peterson (who hasn't edited for a year).
>
> One solution would be to have Ashley re-enable user registrations.
> This has been suggested before, but no one knows how bad the spam
> would be. Another solution would be to sysop a few users to
> admin/bureaucrat, so that even if a few are inactive or away, the rest
> can handle requests.

I support that.

>
> If I might suggest some users we might give the bit to: myself, dons,
> Magnus Therning, Neil Mitchell, and byorgey.

I consider these users trustworthy.
Which of them besides Gwern are willing to take the job?

> All have been editing the
> wiki for some time, some have administrator experience on Wikipedia,
> and all have commit bits for various Haskell repos (and so presumably
> can be trusted). (Of course, this list isn't intended to be
> exhaustive; they're just who comes to mind looking over Recent
> Changes.)

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Wiki user accounts

2009-06-12 Thread Gwern Branwen
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Thomas ten Cate wrote:
> This runs on MediaWiki, right? How about adding a CAPTCHA for account
> registrations?
>
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit

See http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Special:Version

ConfirmEdit would require an upgrade.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Wiki user accounts

2009-06-12 Thread Thomas ten Cate
This runs on MediaWiki, right? How about adding a CAPTCHA for account
registrations?

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit

And, more generally:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam

Cheers,

Thomas

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 18:46, Gwern Branwen wrote:
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> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Philippa Cowderoy wrote:
>> I'm hearing reports of people having difficulty obtaining accounts on
>> the Haskell wiki, without which it is impossible to make edits.
>> Currently, account creation is disabled as an anti-spam measure, and the
>> idea is for people to mail the admin and request an account. If this is
>> to work, accounts need to be granted reasonably quickly - so far, I'm
>> aware of a case where after 4 days there has been no response.
>>
>> This is particularly problematic for Anglohaskell, as signups and the
>> like are via the wiki page - as a temporary workaround, I'll (and anyone
>> else willing to lend a hand who already has an account) have to make
>> edits on others' behalf, which is a serious inconvenience for both
>> myself and attendees, as well as something of a barrier to entry.
>>
>> What's going on, and how can we speed things up?
>
> Presumably Ashley is busy.
>
> http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/?title=Special%3AListusers&group=sysop
>
> There are only 3 bureaucrats/admins; one is a dummy account, one is
> Ashley, and one is John Peterson (who hasn't edited for a year).
>
> One solution would be to have Ashley re-enable user registrations.
> This has been suggested before, but no one knows how bad the spam
> would be. Another solution would be to sysop a few users to
> admin/bureaucrat, so that even if a few are inactive or away, the rest
> can handle requests.
>
> If I might suggest some users we might give the bit to: myself, dons,
> Magnus Therning, Neil Mitchell, and byorgey. All have been editing the
> wiki for some time, some have administrator experience on Wikipedia,
> and all have commit bits for various Haskell repos (and so presumably
> can be trusted). (Of course, this list isn't intended to be
> exhaustive; they're just who comes to mind looking over Recent
> Changes.)
>
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Wiki user accounts

2009-06-12 Thread Gwern Branwen
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Philippa Cowderoy wrote:
> I'm hearing reports of people having difficulty obtaining accounts on
> the Haskell wiki, without which it is impossible to make edits.
> Currently, account creation is disabled as an anti-spam measure, and the
> idea is for people to mail the admin and request an account. If this is
> to work, accounts need to be granted reasonably quickly - so far, I'm
> aware of a case where after 4 days there has been no response.
>
> This is particularly problematic for Anglohaskell, as signups and the
> like are via the wiki page - as a temporary workaround, I'll (and anyone
> else willing to lend a hand who already has an account) have to make
> edits on others' behalf, which is a serious inconvenience for both
> myself and attendees, as well as something of a barrier to entry.
>
> What's going on, and how can we speed things up?

Presumably Ashley is busy.

http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/?title=Special%3AListusers&group=sysop

There are only 3 bureaucrats/admins; one is a dummy account, one is
Ashley, and one is John Peterson (who hasn't edited for a year).

One solution would be to have Ashley re-enable user registrations.
This has been suggested before, but no one knows how bad the spam
would be. Another solution would be to sysop a few users to
admin/bureaucrat, so that even if a few are inactive or away, the rest
can handle requests.

If I might suggest some users we might give the bit to: myself, dons,
Magnus Therning, Neil Mitchell, and byorgey. All have been editing the
wiki for some time, some have administrator experience on Wikipedia,
and all have commit bits for various Haskell repos (and so presumably
can be trusted). (Of course, this list isn't intended to be
exhaustive; they're just who comes to mind looking over Recent
Changes.)

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[Haskell-cafe] Wiki user accounts

2009-06-12 Thread Philippa Cowderoy
I'm hearing reports of people having difficulty obtaining accounts on
the Haskell wiki, without which it is impossible to make edits.
Currently, account creation is disabled as an anti-spam measure, and the
idea is for people to mail the admin and request an account. If this is
to work, accounts need to be granted reasonably quickly - so far, I'm
aware of a case where after 4 days there has been no response.

This is particularly problematic for Anglohaskell, as signups and the
like are via the wiki page - as a temporary workaround, I'll (and anyone
else willing to lend a hand who already has an account) have to make
edits on others' behalf, which is a serious inconvenience for both
myself and attendees, as well as something of a barrier to entry.

What's going on, and how can we speed things up?

-- 
Philippa Cowderoy 

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