Re: [Haskell-cafe] haskell.org is so fragile

2012-07-13 Thread Gaius Hammond
It would have to be rewritten in Haskell and called Harnish. 


Gaius



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From: Bardur Arantsson s...@scientician.net
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 01:28:30 
To: haskell-cafe@haskell.org
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] haskell.org is so fragile

On 07/12/2012 11:04 PM, Ganesh Sittampalam wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 12/07/2012 13:06, Takayuki Muranushi wrote:
 Today I have observed that hackage.haskell.org/ timeout twice (in the
 noon and in the evening.)

 What is the problem? Is it that haskell users have increased so that
 haskell.org is overloaded? That's very good news.
 I am eager to donate some money if it requires server reinforcement.
 
 The issue is unfortunately more to do with sysadmin resources than
 server hardware; there's noone with the time to actively manage the
 server and make sure that it's running well. Any ideas for improving the
 situation would be gratefully received.
 
 Today there were some problems with some processes taking up a lot of
 resources. One of the problems was the hackage search script, which has
 been disabled for now.
 

Since I don't have insight into the inner sanctum (aka.
service/server setup) this may be way off base, but how about adding a
Varnish instance in front of haskell.org and its various subdomains? It
could cache everything for 5 minutes (unconditional) and reduce load by
ridiculous amounts.

Regards,


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[Haskell-cafe] haskell.org is so fragile

2012-07-12 Thread Takayuki Muranushi
Today I have observed that hackage.haskell.org/ timeout twice (in the
noon and in the evening.)

What is the problem? Is it that haskell users have increased so that
haskell.org is overloaded? That's very good news.
I am eager to donate some money if it requires server reinforcement.

Sincerely,
-- 
Takayuki MURANUSHI
The Hakubi Center for Advanced Research, Kyoto University
http://www.hakubi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/02_mem/h22/muranushi.html

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] haskell.org is so fragile

2012-07-12 Thread Ganesh Sittampalam
Hi,

On 12/07/2012 13:06, Takayuki Muranushi wrote:
 Today I have observed that hackage.haskell.org/ timeout twice (in the
 noon and in the evening.)
 
 What is the problem? Is it that haskell users have increased so that
 haskell.org is overloaded? That's very good news.
 I am eager to donate some money if it requires server reinforcement.

The issue is unfortunately more to do with sysadmin resources than
server hardware; there's noone with the time to actively manage the
server and make sure that it's running well. Any ideas for improving the
situation would be gratefully received.

Today there were some problems with some processes taking up a lot of
resources. One of the problems was the hackage search script, which has
been disabled for now.

Cheers,

Ganesh




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Re: [Haskell-cafe] haskell.org is so fragile

2012-07-12 Thread Matthias Hörmann
Hello

Is there some kind of nagios or similar monitoring software in place? In my
experience that really helps
when you don't have time to check the servers all the time, especially
since it is easy to write
small custom plugins for additional checks (e.g. on some of our work
servers I have one of those that checks
dmesg for kernel oops messages, one to check if the running version of our
software is the same as the installed
version,...).

Matthias Hörmann
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] haskell.org is so fragile

2012-07-12 Thread Bardur Arantsson
On 07/12/2012 11:04 PM, Ganesh Sittampalam wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 12/07/2012 13:06, Takayuki Muranushi wrote:
 Today I have observed that hackage.haskell.org/ timeout twice (in the
 noon and in the evening.)

 What is the problem? Is it that haskell users have increased so that
 haskell.org is overloaded? That's very good news.
 I am eager to donate some money if it requires server reinforcement.
 
 The issue is unfortunately more to do with sysadmin resources than
 server hardware; there's noone with the time to actively manage the
 server and make sure that it's running well. Any ideas for improving the
 situation would be gratefully received.
 
 Today there were some problems with some processes taking up a lot of
 resources. One of the problems was the hackage search script, which has
 been disabled for now.
 

Since I don't have insight into the inner sanctum (aka.
service/server setup) this may be way off base, but how about adding a
Varnish instance in front of haskell.org and its various subdomains? It
could cache everything for 5 minutes (unconditional) and reduce load by
ridiculous amounts.

Regards,


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] haskell.org is so fragile

2012-07-12 Thread 山本和彦
Hello,

 The issue is unfortunately more to do with sysadmin resources than
 server hardware; there's noone with the time to actively manage the
 server and make sure that it's running well. Any ideas for improving the
 situation would be gratefully received.

I don't know about the current architecture of Hackage. But what about
this: the main server concentrates on registration/uploading and
mirrors serve queries/downloading.

Yesterday some Japanese Haskellers used a mirror server:
http://hackage.haskell.biz/

--Kazu



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