[Haskell-cafe] monadic logo

2009-03-12 Thread Gregg Reynolds
At risk of becoming the most hated man in all Haskelldom, I'd like to
suggest that the Haskell logo not use lambda symbols.  Or at least not as
the central element.  Sorry, I know I'm late to the party, but the thing is
there is nothing distinctive about lambda; it's common to all FPLs.
Besides, Lisp/Scheme already have that franchise.

What is distinctive about Haskell it's use of the monad.  The Pythagorean
monad symbol is wonderfully simple:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad_(Greek_philosophy)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad_%28Greek_philosophy%29.
Something might also be done with the triad to reflect the fact that the
monad in cat theory is actually a triple (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triad_(Greek_philosophy)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triad_%28Greek_philosophy%29
).

The Cup or Monad (http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/herm/hermes4.htm), with
a little bit of work, could be turned into an amusing Haskell manifesto.
Lots of interesting imagery from the gnostic tradition (
http://www.sacred-texts.com/gno/th2/index.htm), although SICP seems already
to have  used something similar (
http://mitpress.mit.edu/images/products/books/0262011530-f30.jpg).  Hermes
Trismegistus = Thrice-great Hermes - Haskell Trismegistus, Thrice-Glorious
Haskell, etc.  Might be too cute.

There's also Leibniz' monadology - I can't think of any visual imagery to go
with it, but he did end up with the best of all possible worlds
hypothesis, which gives us a slogan sure to irritate:  Haskell - the best
of all possible languages.  Not to mention Haskell Monadology as a name
for the official Haskell definition, etc.

Hey, at least it isn't cute.

-gregg
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] monadic logo

2009-03-12 Thread Thomas Davie


On 12 Mar 2009, at 15:04, Gregg Reynolds wrote:

At risk of becoming the most hated man in all Haskelldom, I'd like  
to suggest that the Haskell logo not use lambda symbols.  Or at  
least not as the central element.  Sorry, I know I'm late to the  
party, but the thing is there is nothing distinctive about lambda;  
it's common to all FPLs.  Besides, Lisp/Scheme already have that  
franchise.


What is distinctive about Haskell it's use of the monad.  The  
Pythagorean monad symbol is wonderfully simple:

No, what's distinctive about Haskell is usually the abuse of the monad.

Encouraging people to think Haskell is all about monadic programming  
even more is a recipe for disaster.


Just my 2ยข

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] monadic logo

2009-03-12 Thread Anton van Straaten

Gregg Reynolds wrote:
What is distinctive about Haskell it's use of the monad.  The 
The Pythagorean monad symbol is wonderfully simple:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad_(Greek_philosophy) 


It has the added benefit that if you put a pair of those on the chest of 
a suitably curvy cartoon character, you've got yourself one sexy mascot.



Hey, at least it isn't cute.


De gustibus non est disputandum!

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