Re: R: [Haskell-cafe] Hacking Haskell in Nightclubs?

2005-11-30 Thread Jerzy Karczmarczuk

Santoemma Enrico wrote:

Doing music is a hard low level problem, a concurrency problem and is also an 
interesting problem for intelligent and behavioural computation.

If it's true that Haskell can do its best on the second and third aspect, the 
undertaking seems to wrap with foreing interface one of the many good C 
libraries for low level audio/midi management.

Btw, about the third aspect I liked your approach to model animations through 
behaviour in your book School of expressions.

So now the questions seem to be: how difficult is today to wrap a C library? Which 
is the right tool to do it? C-Haskell?


About low-level...
Using C libraries, or using Haskell to produce CSound scripts, or SAOL, etc. is
always possible, but not too ambitious, for a genuine Functional Sectarian.

If you permit a shameless plug, I produced some purely functional programs which
generated/simulated basic musical instruments using the waveguide models. It has
been don not in Haskell but in Clean, since Clean arrays and unboxed lists were
much more efficient than the equivalent structures in Haskell *at the time when
I worked on that*.

If you wish to have a look on the paper:

http://users.info.unicaen.fr/~karczma/arpap/cleasyn.pdf

Of course I can send the Clean stuff to the volenti as well, but I am aware
that this is a 5th-column attitude in a Haskell list... Still, you can try to
translate the models into Haskell, which should be conceptually trivial.

The best.

Jerzy Karczmarczuk
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R: [Haskell-cafe] Hacking Haskell in Nightclubs?

2005-11-29 Thread Santoemma Enrico
Doing music is a hard low level problem, a concurrency problem and is also an 
interesting problem for intelligent and behavioural computation.

If it's true that Haskell can do its best on the second and third aspect, the 
undertaking seems to wrap with foreing interface one of the many good C 
libraries for low level audio/midi management.

Btw, about the third aspect I liked your approach to model animations through 
behaviour in your book School of expressions.

So now the questions seem to be: how difficult is today to wrap a C library? 
Which is the right tool to do it? C-Haskell?

Salus,
Enrico

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 Inviato: martedì 29 novembre 2005 3.36
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 Although Haskore (haskell.org/haskore) doesn't currently support 
 real-time music, it's something I've thought about numerous 
 times in the 
 past, and wish I had the time to do it...
 
-Paul Hudak
 
 
 Echo Nolan wrote:
  Hello all,
  I read an article on using perl for live improvised synthesis a
  while ago (http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/08/31/livecode.html). Does
  anyone have thoughts in doing this is haskell? Would strong 
 typing make
  jazzy programming too difficult?
  Regards,
  Echo Nolan
 
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Re: R: [Haskell-cafe] Hacking Haskell in Nightclubs?

2005-11-29 Thread Philippa Cowderoy
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Santoemma Enrico wrote:

 Doing music is a hard low level problem, a concurrency problem and is 
 also an interesting problem for intelligent and behavioural computation.
 
 If it's true that Haskell can do its best on the second and third 
 aspect, the undertaking seems to wrap with foreing interface one of the 
 many good C libraries for low level audio/midi management.
 

That's not so bad if we can afford a little latency. If need be we can 
even have a separate thread or process being fed data from haskell land.

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