Re: [Haskell-cafe] [ANNOUNCE] git-darcs-import 0.1
Loup Vaillant wrote: > 2008/6/3 Darrin Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Bertram Felgenhauer >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm pleased to announce yet another tool for importing darcs repositories >>> to git. Unlike darcs2git [1] and darcs-to-git [2], it's written in >>> Haskell, on top of the darcs2 source code. The result is a much faster >>> program - it can convert the complete ghc 6.9 branch (without libraries) >>> in less than 15 minutes on my slightly dated machine (Athlon XP 2500+), >>> which is quite fast [3]. Incremental updates work, too. >>> >> What's the appeal of this? I personally love git, but I thought all >> the cool kids at this school used darcs and that was that. > > Disclaimer: I'm no expert, this is what I've heard. Anyone please > confirm or deny the following? I've never been a cool kid at school, but I switched from Darcs to Git recently. I have not regretted it. Git has quite a few features Darcs doesn't by now, and there is a little bit (but not much) in the other direction. That and the lack of the indempotent merge bug. Git's interface has really cleaned up in the last year, and it seems to be well on the way to becoming the defacto DVCS of choice. Maybe next week, when it's picked up the last of the superdelegates, we can say for sure, but of course bzr won't conceed anything at this point (OK, so we've had mind-numbing election coverage here in the US for too long) I've blogged about this. http://changelog.complete.org/plugin/tag/git will get you most of the relevant posts. -- John ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] [ANNOUNCE] git-darcs-import 0.1
Darrin Thompson wrote: > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Bertram Felgenhauer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm pleased to announce yet another tool for importing darcs repositories > > to git. [...] > > What's the appeal of this? I personally love git, but I thought all > the cool kids at this school used darcs and that was that. For myself, git-darcs-import itself is an opportunity to learn more about both darcs and git. It wasn't meant to be argument in the git vs. darcs discussion, although it was inevitable that it would be seen as such. I really like darcs' concepts, but in my opinion, darcs doesn't get enough power out of the theory of patches to really shine so far. This is a hard problem, and I can't offer solutions. Ideally, you'd have semantic patches which just commute with virtually all other patches because they "know" what they are about. The only thing that darcs offers in that direction - besides handling conflicts, mergers and undos gracefully, which is quite useful in itself - is a keyword substitution patch type. In the meantime, I prefer git to darcs, mainly because I'm sort of attached to seeing the development history, i.e. I prefer to think of patches as (partially) ordered instead of being a cloud of patches that darcs uses as a model. Bertram ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] [ANNOUNCE] git-darcs-import 0.1
2008/6/3 Darrin Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Bertram Felgenhauer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm pleased to announce yet another tool for importing darcs repositories >> to git. Unlike darcs2git [1] and darcs-to-git [2], it's written in >> Haskell, on top of the darcs2 source code. The result is a much faster >> program - it can convert the complete ghc 6.9 branch (without libraries) >> in less than 15 minutes on my slightly dated machine (Athlon XP 2500+), >> which is quite fast [3]. Incremental updates work, too. >> > > What's the appeal of this? I personally love git, but I thought all > the cool kids at this school used darcs and that was that. Disclaimer: I'm no expert, this is what I've heard. Anyone please confirm or deny the following? Basically, git is waaay faster than Darcs on a number of use cases. So, maybe the point of using this converter is when you just cannot use Darcs any more (too old/big project, merging huge branch with loads of conflicts, I don't know). Another point may be "broadcast-ability": It is possible to expose two repositories: one Darcs, one Git. If I use Git and not Darcs (please don't sue me), it will be simpler for me to get the source from the Git snapshot, provided there is one. Well, if I want to contribute back... maybe I should switch. I think the True Heresy (and most useful, if practical) would be to convert back and forth between the two version control systems, accepting patches from both :-) Loup ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] [ANNOUNCE] git-darcs-import 0.1
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Bertram Felgenhauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm pleased to announce yet another tool for importing darcs repositories > to git. Unlike darcs2git [1] and darcs-to-git [2], it's written in > Haskell, on top of the darcs2 source code. The result is a much faster > program - it can convert the complete ghc 6.9 branch (without libraries) > in less than 15 minutes on my slightly dated machine (Athlon XP 2500+), > which is quite fast [3]. Incremental updates work, too. > What's the appeal of this? I personally love git, but I thought all the cool kids at this school used darcs and that was that. -- Darrin ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] [ANNOUNCE] git-darcs-import 0.1
Thomas Schilling wrote: > > On 1 jun 2008, at 20.44, Bertram Felgenhauer wrote: [git-darcs-import] > > Nice! Do you happen to also have a darcs (or Git) repository somewhere? I've uploaded my (git) repo to repo.or.cz, see http://repo.or.cz/w/git-darcs-import.git Patches are welcome. enjoy, Bertram ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] [ANNOUNCE] git-darcs-import 0.1
On 1 jun 2008, at 20.44, Bertram Felgenhauer wrote: Hi, I'm pleased to announce yet another tool for importing darcs repositories to git. Unlike darcs2git [1] and darcs-to-git [2], it's written in Haskell, on top of the darcs2 source code. The result is a much faster program - it can convert the complete ghc 6.9 branch (without libraries) in less than 15 minutes on my slightly dated machine (Athlon XP 2500 +), which is quite fast [3]. Incremental updates work, too. Nice! Do you happen to also have a darcs (or Git) repository somewhere? / Thomas -- Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground. Silly monkeys give them thumbs they forge a blade And where there's one they're bound to divide it Right in two PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
