Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code critique - Was [Maybe Int] sans Nothings

2011-05-30 Thread michael rice
Nice tool. I'll be using it a lot from now on, I'm sure. Thanks, Neil.
Michael

--- On Mon, 5/30/11, Neil Mitchell  wrote:

From: Neil Mitchell 
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code critique - Was [Maybe Int] sans Nothings
To: "michael rice" 
Cc: "Haskell Cafe" , "Alexander Solla" 

Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 1:55 PM

Hi Michael,
You've used quite a few entirely redundant brackets. The tool HLint 
(http://community.haskell.org/~ndm/hlint) will tell you which ones.

Thanks, Neil

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:09 AM, michael rice  wrote:

The input file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27842656/psalms

The Markov chain exercise from "The Practice of Programming", Kermighan/Pike. 
Sample runs at the end.

Michael
 

import System.Environment(getArgs)import System.Randomimport 
Control.Applicativeimport Control.Monad.Reader
import Control.Monad.Stateimport Data.Maybeimport Data.Map
type Prefix = (String,String)type GeneratorState1 = State ((Map Prefix 
[String]),Prefix,[String])
type GeneratorState2 = StateT (Prefix,StdGen) (Reader (Map Prefix [String]))
non_word = "\n"
f key new old = new ++ old 
buildMap :: GeneratorState1 (Map Prefix [String])
buildMap = do (mp,(pfx1,pfx2),words) <- get              if (Prelude.null 
words)                then {-
 No more words. Return final map (adding non_word for final prefix). -}         
         return (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [non_word] mp)                
else do {- Add word to map at prefix & continue. -}
                  put (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [head words] mp, 
(pfx2,(head words)), tail words)                  buildMap
generate :: GeneratorState2 (Maybe String)
generate = do ((pfx1,pfx2),gen) <- get              mp <- ask              let 
suffixList = mp ! (pfx1,pfx2)              let (index,newGen) = randomR (0, 
(length suffixList)-1)
 gen              let word = suffixList !! index               if (word == 
non_word)                then                  return Nothing                
else do
                  put ((pfx2,word),newGen)                  return (Just word)
rInt :: String -> IntrInt = read 
main = do (seed:nwords:_) <- (Prelude.map rInt) <$> getArgs
          contents <- getContents          putStrLn $ unwords $ catMaybes $ 
runReader (evalStateT (sequence $
 replicate nwords generate) ((non_word,non_word),mkStdGen seed))                
                                     (evalState buildMap (singleton 
(non_word,non_word) [], (non_word,non_word), words contents))

{-[michael@hostname ~]$ ghc --make markov.hs[1 of 1] Compiling Main             
( markov.hs, markov.o )Linking markov ...[michael@hostname ~]$ cat psalms | 
./markov 111 100
Blessed is the LORD, in thine own cause: remember how the foolish people have 
blasphemed thy name. In the courts of the righteous: The LORD taketh pleasure 
in the desert. And he led them with the wicked, and with the whole earth, is 
mount Zion, on the sides of thine only. O God, and was troubled: I complained, 
and my God. My
 times are in thy praise. Blessed be God, which is full of the LORD is good: 
for his wondrous works. Now also when I am small and despised: yet do I put my 
trust: how say ye to[michael@hostname ~]$ cat psalms | ./markov 666 100
Blessed is the LORD, and cried unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I remember thee 
from the beginning: and every one that is weaned of his heart to any wicked 
transgressors. Selah. They return at evening: they make ready their arrow upon 
the people; and thou hast destroyed all them that fight against them that trust 
in thee: and let my tongue cleave to the heavens by his power for ever; and thy 
lovingkindnesses; for they have laid a snare before them: and that my ways were 
directed to keep thy word. Mine eyes fail while I have said that
[michael@hostname ~]$ 
--- On Tue,
 5/24/11, Alexander Solla  wrote:


From: Alexander Solla 
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Maybe Int] sans Nothings
To: "Haskell Cafe" 

Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 5:01 PM



> Personally, I find non-functional values without Eq instances to be

> degenerate.  So I really do not mind superfluous Eq constraints.  I

> would not hesitate to use filter ((/=) Nothing) in a function whose type

> has no free type variables.  It's just a bit of plumbing inside of a

> more complex function.



Sometimes it seems to be better to not allow Eq on Float and Double.

Since most algebraic laws do not hold for those types, it is more often

an error than an intention to compare two Float values. And how to

compare (IO a) values? 
Floats, Doubles, and IO are all "degenerate" types, for the reasons you 
outline.  (Admittedly, Float and Double have Eq instances, but invalid Eq 
semantics)  Notice how their value semantics each depend on the machine your 
runtime runs on, as opposed to merely the runtime.  Bottom is another one of 
thes

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code critique - Was [Maybe Int] sans Nothings

2011-05-30 Thread Neil Mitchell
Hi Michael,

You've used quite a few entirely redundant brackets. The tool HLint (
http://community.haskell.org/~ndm/hlint) will tell you which ones.

Thanks, Neil

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:09 AM, michael rice  wrote:

> The input file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27842656/psalms
>
> The Markov chain exercise from "The Practice of Programming",
> Kermighan/Pike. Sample runs at the end.
>
> Michael
>
> 
>
> import System.Environment(getArgs)
> import System.Random
> import Control.Applicative
> import Control.Monad.Reader
> import Control.Monad.State
> import Data.Maybe
> import Data.Map
>
> type Prefix = (String,String)
> type GeneratorState1 = State ((Map Prefix [String]),Prefix,[String])
> type GeneratorState2 = StateT (Prefix,StdGen) (Reader (Map Prefix
> [String]))
>
> non_word = "\n"
>
> f key new old = new ++ old
>
> buildMap :: GeneratorState1 (Map Prefix [String])
> buildMap = do (mp,(pfx1,pfx2),words) <- get
>   if (Prelude.null words)
> then {- No more words. Return final map (adding non_word
> for final prefix). -}
>   return (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [non_word] mp)
> else do {- Add word to map at prefix & continue. -}
>   put (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [head words] mp,
> (pfx2,(head words)), tail words)
>   buildMap
>
> generate :: GeneratorState2 (Maybe String)
> generate = do ((pfx1,pfx2),gen) <- get
>   mp <- ask
>   let suffixList = mp ! (pfx1,pfx2)
>   let (index,newGen) = randomR (0, (length suffixList)-1) gen
>   let word = suffixList !! index
>   if (word == non_word)
> then
>   return Nothing
> else do
>   put ((pfx2,word),newGen)
>   return (Just word)
>
> rInt :: String -> Int
> rInt = read
>
> main = do (seed:nwords:_) <- (Prelude.map rInt) <$> getArgs
>   contents <- getContents
>   putStrLn $ unwords $ catMaybes $ runReader (evalStateT (sequence
> $ replicate nwords generate) ((non_word,non_word),mkStdGen seed))
>  (evalState buildMap
> (singleton (non_word,non_word) [], (non_word,non_word), words contents))
>
> {-
> [michael@hostname ~]$ ghc --make markov.hs
> [1 of 1] Compiling Main ( markov.hs, markov.o )
> Linking markov ...
> [michael@hostname ~]$ cat psalms | ./markov 111 100
> Blessed is the LORD, in thine own cause: remember how the foolish people
> have blasphemed thy name. In the courts of the righteous: The LORD taketh
> pleasure in the desert. And he led them with the wicked, and with the whole
> earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of thine only. O God, and was troubled: I
> complained, and my God. My times are in thy praise. Blessed be God, which is
> full of the LORD is good: for his wondrous works. Now also when I am small
> and despised: yet do I put my trust: how say ye to
> [michael@hostname ~]$ cat psalms | ./markov 666 100
> Blessed is the LORD, and cried unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I remember
> thee from the beginning: and every one that is weaned of his heart to any
> wicked transgressors. Selah. They return at evening: they make ready their
> arrow upon the people; and thou hast destroyed all them that fight against
> them that trust in thee: and let my tongue cleave to the heavens by his
> power for ever; and thy lovingkindnesses; for they have laid a snare before
> them: and that my ways were directed to keep thy word. Mine eyes fail while
> I have said that
> [michael@hostname ~]$
>
> --- On *Tue, 5/24/11, Alexander Solla * wrote:
>
>
> From: Alexander Solla 
> Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Maybe Int] sans Nothings
> To: "Haskell Cafe" 
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 5:01 PM
>
>
> > Personally, I find non-functional values without Eq instances to be
> > degenerate.  So I really do not mind superfluous Eq constraints.  I
> > would not hesitate to use filter ((/=) Nothing) in a function whose type
> > has no free type variables.  It's just a bit of plumbing inside of a
> > more complex function.
>
> Sometimes it seems to be better to not allow Eq on Float and Double.
> Since most algebraic laws do not hold for those types, it is more often
> an error than an intention to compare two Float values. And how to
> compare (IO a) values?
>
>
> Floats, Doubles, and IO are all "degenerate" types, for the reasons you
> outline.  (Admittedly, Float and Double have Eq instances, but invalid Eq
> semantics)  Notice how their value semantics each depend on the machine your
> runtime runs on, as opposed to merely the runtime.  Bottom is another one of
> these degenerate types, since comparisons on arbitrary values are
> undecidable.
>
> Also, by thinking about function types, you often
> get interesting use cases. Thus I would not assume too quickly that a
> type will always be instantiated by types other than a function type.
> T

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code critique - Was [Maybe Int] sans Nothings

2011-05-25 Thread michael rice
Yes, very nice. Thanks.
Michael

--- On Wed, 5/25/11, Henning Thielemann  
wrote:

From: Henning Thielemann 
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code critique - Was [Maybe Int] sans Nothings
To: "michael rice" 
Cc: "Haskell Cafe" 
Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 3:41 AM

Alexander Solla schrieb:

>     buildMap :: GeneratorState1 (Map Prefix [String])
>     buildMap = do (mp,(pfx1,pfx2),words) <- get
>                   if (Prelude.null words)
>                     then {- No more words. Return final map (adding
>     non_word for final prefix). -}
>                       return (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [non_word] mp)
>                     else do {- Add word to map at prefix & continue. -}
>                       put (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [head words] mp,
>     (pfx2,(head words)), tail words)
>                       buildMap
> 
>>>> I'm not a fan of explicit if-then-else's, but my preferred

case words of
   [] -> {- no more words -} ...
   w:ws -> ...

would work perfectly.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code critique - Was [Maybe Int] sans Nothings

2011-05-25 Thread Henning Thielemann
Alexander Solla schrieb:

> buildMap :: GeneratorState1 (Map Prefix [String])
> buildMap = do (mp,(pfx1,pfx2),words) <- get
>   if (Prelude.null words)
> then {- No more words. Return final map (adding
> non_word for final prefix). -}
>   return (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [non_word] mp)
> else do {- Add word to map at prefix & continue. -}
>   put (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [head words] mp,
> (pfx2,(head words)), tail words)
>   buildMap
> 
 I'm not a fan of explicit if-then-else's, but my preferred

case words of
   [] -> {- no more words -} ...
   w:ws -> ...

would work perfectly.


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code critique - Was [Maybe Int] sans Nothings

2011-05-24 Thread michael rice
Thanks, Alexander. Not as much red ink as I was expecting.
My monitor is acting up, so I may be be dropping off the radar unexpectedly 
while acquiring a replacement.
Each prefix is guaranteed to have at least one following word in its suffix 
list (possibly more) because the map is built from the actual Psalms text. The 
only prefix for which this does not occur is the final two words of the text, 
thus the TRUE case in buildMap puts the sole non_word in the suffix list.
The generate function then _always_ builds a prefix from the first two words of 
the text, "Blessed is," looks up its suffix list, chooses the next word 
randomly, and creates a new prefix by pairing the second word of the old prefix 
and the new word. Repeat.     
I've attached the AWK and C++ sources for the same Markov exercise if you wish 
to examine them. Both just write a single word on each line so I cobbled a 
Haskell program (lines.hs) to turn them into lines.
Michael

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Alexander Solla  wrote:

From: Alexander Solla 
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code critique - Was [Maybe Int] sans Nothings
To: "michael rice" 
Cc: "Haskell Cafe" 
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 10:42 PM

My comments are in-line, marked off with >>>

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:09 PM, michael rice  wrote:

The input file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27842656/psalms

The Markov chain exercise from "The Practice of Programming", Kermighan/Pike. 
Sample runs at the end.

Michael
 

import System.Environment(getArgs)import System.Randomimport 
Control.Applicativeimport Control.Monad.Reader
import Control.Monad.Stateimport Data.Maybeimport Data.Map
type Prefix = (String,String)type GeneratorState1 = State ((Map Prefix 
[String]),Prefix,[String])
type GeneratorState2 = StateT (Prefix,StdGen) (Reader (Map Prefix [String]))
non_word = "\n"
f key new old = new ++ old 


>>> I don't see what f is for, since it doesn't do anything with the key. 
buildMap :: GeneratorState1 (Map Prefix [String])buildMap = do 
(mp,(pfx1,pfx2),words) <- get
              if (Prelude.null words)                then {-
 No more words. Return final map (adding non_word for final prefix). -}         
         return (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [non_word] mp)                
else do {- Add word to map at prefix & continue. -}
                  put (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [head words] mp, 
(pfx2,(head words)), tail words)                  buildMap

>>> I'm not a fan of explicit if-then-else's, but my preferred alternative 
>>> won't win much either.  
>>> (see http://osdir.com/ml/haskell-cafe@haskell.org/2011-05/msg00612.html for 
>>> an example of what I'm talking about)
 
generate :: GeneratorState2 (Maybe String)generate = do ((pfx1,pfx2),gen) <- 
get              mp <- ask              let suffixList = mp ! (pfx1,pfx2)

>>> I'm not sure how you're guaranteed that mp ! (pfx1, pfx2) exists, at first 
>>> glance.  "lookup" uses Maybe semantics, in the case there is no result.
 
              let (index,newGen) = randomR (0, (length suffixList)-1)
 gen
>>> I might use a function like:>>> listRange :: [a] -> (Int, Int)>>> listRange 
>>> list = (0,  (length $ l) - 1)
>>> This is a common enough pattern to abstract away.


              let word = suffixList !! index               if (word == 
non_word)                then                  return Nothing
                else do                  put ((pfx2,word),newGen)               
   return (Just word)
rInt :: String -> IntrInt = read 


 >>> rInt is fair enough, but you can also have the same effect with an 
explicit type signature ((read n) :: Int)  I tend to prefer the latter, 
personally.
 
main = do (seed:nwords:_) <- (Prelude.map rInt) <$> getArgs          contents 
<- getContents          putStrLn $ unwords $ catMaybes $ runReader (evalStateT 
(sequence $
 replicate nwords generate) ((non_word,non_word),mkStdGen seed))                
                                     (evalState buildMap (singleton 
(non_word,non_word) [], (non_word,non_word), words contents))

>>> Nice use of functor application. 
{-[michael@hostname ~]$ ghc --make markov.hs[1 of 1] Compiling Main             
( markov.hs, markov.o )
Linking markov ...[michael@hostname ~]$ cat psalms | ./markov 111 100Blessed is 
the LORD, in thine own cause: remember how the foolish people have blasphemed 
thy name. In the courts of the righteous: The LORD taketh pleasure in the 
desert. And he led them with the wicked, and with the whole earth, is mount 
Zion, on the sides of thine only. O God, and was troubled: I complained, and my 
God. My
 times are in thy praise. Blessed be God, which is full of the LORD is good: 
for his wondrous works. Now also when I am small

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code critique - Was [Maybe Int] sans Nothings

2011-05-24 Thread Alexander Solla
My comments are in-line, marked off with >>>

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:09 PM, michael rice  wrote:

> The input file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27842656/psalms
>
> The Markov chain exercise from "The Practice of Programming",
> Kermighan/Pike. Sample runs at the end.
>
> Michael
>
> 
>
> import System.Environment(getArgs)
> import System.Random
> import Control.Applicative
> import Control.Monad.Reader
> import Control.Monad.State
> import Data.Maybe
> import Data.Map
>
> type Prefix = (String,String)
> type GeneratorState1 = State ((Map Prefix [String]),Prefix,[String])
> type GeneratorState2 = StateT (Prefix,StdGen) (Reader (Map Prefix
> [String]))
>
> non_word = "\n"
>
> f key new old = new ++ old
>
>
>>> I don't see what f is for, since it doesn't do anything with the key.


> buildMap :: GeneratorState1 (Map Prefix [String])
> buildMap = do (mp,(pfx1,pfx2),words) <- get
>   if (Prelude.null words)
> then {- No more words. Return final map (adding non_word
> for final prefix). -}
>   return (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [non_word] mp)
> else do {- Add word to map at prefix & continue. -}
>   put (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [head words] mp,
> (pfx2,(head words)), tail words)
>   buildMap
>
> >>> I'm not a fan of explicit if-then-else's, but my preferred alternative
won't win much either.  (see
http://osdir.com/ml/haskell-cafe@haskell.org/2011-05/msg00612.html for an
example of what I'm talking about)


> generate :: GeneratorState2 (Maybe String)
> generate = do ((pfx1,pfx2),gen) <- get
>   mp <- ask
>   let suffixList = mp ! (pfx1,pfx2)
>

>>> I'm not sure how you're guaranteed that mp ! (pfx1, pfx2) exists, at
first glance.  "lookup" uses Maybe semantics, in the case there is no
result.


>   let (index,newGen) = randomR (0, (length suffixList)-1) gen
>

>>> I might use a function like:
>>> listRange :: [a] -> (Int, Int)
>>> listRange list = (0,  (length $ l) - 1)
>>> This is a common enough pattern to abstract away.


  let word = suffixList !! index
>   if (word == non_word)
> then
>   return Nothing
> else do
>   put ((pfx2,word),newGen)
>   return (Just word)
>
> rInt :: String -> Int
> rInt = read
>
>

>>> rInt is fair enough, but you can also have the same effect with an
explicit type signature ((read n) :: Int)  I tend to prefer the latter,
personally.


> main = do (seed:nwords:_) <- (Prelude.map rInt) <$> getArgs
>   contents <- getContents
>   putStrLn $ unwords $ catMaybes $ runReader (evalStateT (sequence
> $ replicate nwords generate) ((non_word,non_word),mkStdGen seed))
>  (evalState buildMap
> (singleton (non_word,non_word) [], (non_word,non_word), words contents))
>
> >>> Nice use of functor application.


> {-
> [michael@hostname ~]$ ghc --make markov.hs
> [1 of 1] Compiling Main ( markov.hs, markov.o )
> Linking markov ...
> [michael@hostname ~]$ cat psalms | ./markov 111 100
> Blessed is the LORD, in thine own cause: remember how the foolish people
> have blasphemed thy name. In the courts of the righteous: The LORD taketh
> pleasure in the desert. And he led them with the wicked, and with the whole
> earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of thine only. O God, and was troubled: I
> complained, and my God. My times are in thy praise. Blessed be God, which is
> full of the LORD is good: for his wondrous works. Now also when I am small
> and despised: yet do I put my trust: how say ye to
> [michael@hostname ~]$ cat psalms | ./markov 666 100
> Blessed is the LORD, and cried unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I remember
> thee from the beginning: and every one that is weaned of his heart to any
> wicked transgressors. Selah. They return at evening: they make ready their
> arrow upon the people; and thou hast destroyed all them that fight against
> them that trust in thee: and let my tongue cleave to the heavens by his
> power for ever; and thy lovingkindnesses; for they have laid a snare before
> them: and that my ways were directed to keep thy word. Mine eyes fail while
> I have said that
> [michael@hostname ~]$
>
> --- On *Tue, 5/24/11, Alexander Solla * wrote:
>
>
> From: Alexander Solla 
> Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Maybe Int] sans Nothings
> To: "Haskell Cafe" 
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 5:01 PM
>
>
> > Personally, I find non-functional values without Eq instances to be
> > degenerate.  So I really do not mind superfluous Eq constraints.  I
> > would not hesitate to use filter ((/=) Nothing) in a function whose type
> > has no free type variables.  It's just a bit of plumbing inside of a
> > more complex function.
>
> Sometimes it seems to be better to not allow Eq on Float and Double.
> Since most algebraic laws do not hold for those types, it is 

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code critique - Was [Maybe Int] sans Nothings

2011-05-24 Thread michael rice
The input file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27842656/psalms
The Markov chain exercise from "The Practice of Programming", Kermighan/Pike. 
Sample runs at the end.
Michael
 
import System.Environment(getArgs)import System.Randomimport 
Control.Applicativeimport Control.Monad.Readerimport Control.Monad.Stateimport 
Data.Maybeimport Data.Map
type Prefix = (String,String)type GeneratorState1 = State ((Map Prefix 
[String]),Prefix,[String])type GeneratorState2 = StateT (Prefix,StdGen) (Reader 
(Map Prefix [String]))
non_word = "\n"
f key new old = new ++ old 
buildMap :: GeneratorState1 (Map Prefix [String])buildMap = do 
(mp,(pfx1,pfx2),words) <- get              if (Prelude.null words)              
  then {- No more words. Return final map (adding non_word for final prefix). 
-}                  return (insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [non_word] mp)         
       else do {- Add word to map at prefix & continue. -}                  put 
(insertWithKey' f (pfx1,pfx2) [head words] mp, (pfx2,(head words)), tail 
words)                  buildMap
generate :: GeneratorState2 (Maybe String)generate = do ((pfx1,pfx2),gen) <- 
get              mp <- ask              let suffixList = mp ! (pfx1,pfx2)       
       let (index,newGen) = randomR (0, (length suffixList)-1) gen              
let word = suffixList !! index               if (word == non_word)              
  then                  return Nothing                else do                  
put ((pfx2,word),newGen)                  return (Just word)
rInt :: String -> IntrInt = read 
main = do (seed:nwords:_) <- (Prelude.map rInt) <$> getArgs          contents 
<- getContents          putStrLn $ unwords $ catMaybes $ runReader (evalStateT 
(sequence $ replicate nwords generate) ((non_word,non_word),mkStdGen seed))     
                                                (evalState buildMap (singleton 
(non_word,non_word) [], (non_word,non_word), words contents))
{-[michael@hostname ~]$ ghc --make markov.hs[1 of 1] Compiling Main             
( markov.hs, markov.o )Linking markov ...[michael@hostname ~]$ cat psalms | 
./markov 111 100Blessed is the LORD, in thine own cause: remember how the 
foolish people have blasphemed thy name. In the courts of the righteous: The 
LORD taketh pleasure in the desert. And he led them with the wicked, and with 
the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of thine only. O God, and was 
troubled: I complained, and my God. My times are in thy praise. Blessed be God, 
which is full of the LORD is good: for his wondrous works. Now also when I am 
small and despised: yet do I put my trust: how say ye to[michael@hostname ~]$ 
cat psalms | ./markov 666 100Blessed is the LORD, and cried unto thee, Thy 
face, LORD, will I remember thee from the beginning: and every one that is 
weaned of his heart to any wicked transgressors. Selah. They return at evening: 
they make ready their arrow upon the
 people; and thou hast destroyed all them that fight against them that trust in 
thee: and let my tongue cleave to the heavens by his power for ever; and thy 
lovingkindnesses; for they have laid a snare before them: and that my ways were 
directed to keep thy word. Mine eyes fail while I have said 
that[michael@hostname ~]$ 
--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Alexander Solla  wrote:

From: Alexander Solla 
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Maybe Int] sans Nothings
To: "Haskell Cafe" 
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 5:01 PM



> Personally, I find non-functional values without Eq instances to be

> degenerate.  So I really do not mind superfluous Eq constraints.  I

> would not hesitate to use filter ((/=) Nothing) in a function whose type

> has no free type variables.  It's just a bit of plumbing inside of a

> more complex function.



Sometimes it seems to be better to not allow Eq on Float and Double.

Since most algebraic laws do not hold for those types, it is more often

an error than an intention to compare two Float values. And how to

compare (IO a) values? 
Floats, Doubles, and IO are all "degenerate" types, for the reasons you 
outline.  (Admittedly, Float and Double have Eq instances, but invalid Eq 
semantics)  Notice how their value semantics each depend on the machine your 
runtime runs on, as opposed to merely the runtime.  Bottom is another one of 
these degenerate types, since comparisons on arbitrary values are undecidable.

Also, by thinking about function types, you often

get interesting use cases. Thus I would not assume too quickly that a

type will always be instantiated by types other than a function type.

Thus I would stick to (filter isJust) and use this consistently for

monomorphic and polymorphic types.


I am not suggesting (filter ((/=) Nothing)) /over/ (filter isJust).  Obviously, 
once one is aware of a  better tool, one should use it.  But I am suggesting 
that for simple cases which are unlikely to change in any substantive way, we 
should probably just use the tools we already know of, as opposed to searching 
for