[Haskell-community] Haskell language API copyright status?

[Nicholas Papadonis]

Hi Folks,

You may be aware of Oracle vs. Google in regards to the Java API being 
copyrighted.  The case is still in progress.

When the Haskell language was created, including any books on it, the authors 
became the copyright holder for the language API that one uses to code with.  
Is anyone aware of any license which grants people free use of this API.  I saw 
various licenses for compilers, but was concerned that was only for the code 
implementing the compiler/interpreter.  If so, what is it?

There could be an interpretation that a derivative work of the compiler / 
interpreter implementation is indeed the language itself.  Therefore if the 
compiler / interpreter and it’s derivative is freely licensed, then the 
language API is as well.

I ask because it’s my understanding C/C++ language API was licensed through 
ISO, which grants a free license to anyone implementing or using the language 
API.

Appreciate your guidance. 

Thank you,
Nick 
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Re: [Haskell-community] Haskell language API copyright status?

[Gershom B]

See the (very open) license of the Haskell Report
https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:16 AM Nicholas Papadonis <
nick.papadonis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> You may be aware of Oracle vs. Google in regards to the Java API being
> copyrighted.  The case is still in progress.
>
> When the Haskell language was created, including any books on it, the
> authors became the copyright holder for the language API that one uses to
> code with.  Is anyone aware of any license which grants people free use of
> this API.  I saw various licenses for compilers, but was concerned that was
> only for the code implementing the compiler/interpreter.  If so, what is it?
>
> There could be an interpretation that a derivative work of the compiler /
> interpreter implementation is indeed the language itself.  Therefore if the
> compiler / interpreter and it’s derivative is freely licensed, then the
> language API is as well.
>
> I ask because it’s my understanding C/C++ language API was licensed
> through ISO, which grants a free license to anyone implementing or using
> the language API.
>
> Appreciate your guidance.
>
> Thank you,
> Nick
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Re: [Haskell-community] Haskell language API copyright status?

[Nicholas Papadonis]

Thank you!  That puts the language in a better position in regards to being 
open for anyone to use.

LICENSE:
"The authors and publisher intend this Report to belong to the entire
Haskell community, and grant permission to copy and distribute it for
any purpose, provided that it is reproduced in its entirety, including
this Notice." "For any purpose" would include implementation of the
language it specifies.

> On May 24, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Gershom B  wrote:
> 
> See the (very open) license of the Haskell Report 
> https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/ 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:16 AM Nicholas Papadonis 
> mailto:nick.papadonis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> You may be aware of Oracle vs. Google in regards to the Java API being 
> copyrighted.  The case is still in progress.
> 
> When the Haskell language was created, including any books on it, the authors 
> became the copyright holder for the language API that one uses to code with.  
> Is anyone aware of any license which grants people free use of this API.  I 
> saw various licenses for compilers, but was concerned that was only for the 
> code implementing the compiler/interpreter.  If so, what is it?
> 
> There could be an interpretation that a derivative work of the compiler / 
> interpreter implementation is indeed the language itself.  Therefore if the 
> compiler / interpreter and it’s derivative is freely licensed, then the 
> language API is as well.
> 
> I ask because it’s my understanding C/C++ language API was licensed through 
> ISO, which grants a free license to anyone implementing or using the language 
> API.
> 
> Appreciate your guidance. 
> 
> Thank you,
> Nick 
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Re: [Haskell-community] Haskell language API copyright status?

[Brandon Allbery]

As a historical note, the openness of the Haskell spec was a reaction
to the licensing of the research language Miranda and as such was
quite intentional.

On 5/24/20, Nicholas Papadonis  wrote:
> Thank you!  That puts the language in a better position in regards to being
> open for anyone to use.
>
> LICENSE:
> "The authors and publisher intend this Report to belong to the entire
> Haskell community, and grant permission to copy and distribute it for
> any purpose, provided that it is reproduced in its entirety, including
> this Notice." "For any purpose" would include implementation of the
> language it specifies.
>
>> On May 24, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Gershom B  wrote:
>>
>> See the (very open) license of the Haskell Report
>> https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/
>> 
>>
>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:16 AM Nicholas Papadonis
>> mailto:nick.papadonis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> You may be aware of Oracle vs. Google in regards to the Java API being
>> copyrighted.  The case is still in progress.
>>
>> When the Haskell language was created, including any books on it, the
>> authors became the copyright holder for the language API that one uses to
>> code with.  Is anyone aware of any license which grants people free use of
>> this API.  I saw various licenses for compilers, but was concerned that
>> was only for the code implementing the compiler/interpreter.  If so, what
>> is it?
>>
>> There could be an interpretation that a derivative work of the compiler /
>> interpreter implementation is indeed the language itself.  Therefore if
>> the compiler / interpreter and it’s derivative is freely licensed, then
>> the language API is as well.
>>
>> I ask because it’s my understanding C/C++ language API was licensed
>> through ISO, which grants a free license to anyone implementing or using
>> the language API.
>>
>> Appreciate your guidance.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Nick
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>
>


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Re: [Haskell-community] Haskell language API copyright status?

[Nicholas Papadonis]

Was Miranda a closed license?

> On May 24, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Brandon Allbery  wrote:
> 
> As a historical note, the openness of the Haskell spec was a reaction
> to the licensing of the research language Miranda and as such was
> quite intentional.
> 
> On 5/24/20, Nicholas Papadonis  > wrote:
>> Thank you!  That puts the language in a better position in regards to being
>> open for anyone to use.
>> 
>> LICENSE:
>> "The authors and publisher intend this Report to belong to the entire
>> Haskell community, and grant permission to copy and distribute it for
>> any purpose, provided that it is reproduced in its entirety, including
>> this Notice." "For any purpose" would include implementation of the
>> language it specifies.
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Gershom B  wrote:
>>> 
>>> See the (very open) license of the Haskell Report
>>> https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/
>>> >> >
>>> 
>>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:16 AM Nicholas Papadonis
>>> mailto:nick.papadonis...@gmail.com> 
>>> >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi Folks,
>>> 
>>> You may be aware of Oracle vs. Google in regards to the Java API being
>>> copyrighted.  The case is still in progress.
>>> 
>>> When the Haskell language was created, including any books on it, the
>>> authors became the copyright holder for the language API that one uses to
>>> code with.  Is anyone aware of any license which grants people free use of
>>> this API.  I saw various licenses for compilers, but was concerned that
>>> was only for the code implementing the compiler/interpreter.  If so, what
>>> is it?
>>> 
>>> There could be an interpretation that a derivative work of the compiler /
>>> interpreter implementation is indeed the language itself.  Therefore if
>>> the compiler / interpreter and it’s derivative is freely licensed, then
>>> the language API is as well.
>>> 
>>> I ask because it’s my understanding C/C++ language API was licensed
>>> through ISO, which grants a free license to anyone implementing or using
>>> the language API.
>>> 
>>> Appreciate your guidance.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Nick
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>>> 
>>> >> >
>> 
>> 
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