LAST CALL to comment on the RelaxedPolyRec proposal

2018-11-04 Thread Mario Blažević
I hereby officially announce that the RFC for the relaxed dependency 
analysis (https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/pull/17) has attained the 
rarefied status of Last Call. Please take some time within the following 
two weeks to vote for or against the proposal, or just leave a comment 
to indicate you're still alive but didn't form an opinion on it.



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Re: Report merged, steps to follow

2018-11-04 Thread Carter Schonwald
sounds good to me, we can always tweak stuff as needed

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 10:04 AM Mario Blažević  wrote:

> Four weeks having passed since the previous discussion with no
> objections, I have now merged the content of the Haskell Report
>
> from https://github.com/haskell/haskell-report
>
> into https://github.com/haskell/rfcs
>
>
>  To remind everybody again, the point of this move was to enable
> adding an actionable change to the report to every RFC. From this point
> on, any proposal that passes the full process to becoming accepted can
> update the report by the simple act of getting merged.
>
>  In order to test this process, over a year ago I've picked and
> submitted the least controversial RFC I could find, namely
> https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/pull/17. There has been no objection to
> the proposal. In fact there has been no comment whatsoever, but I
> suppose that's beside the point. So today I have moved the RFC to the
> "Last Call" column (https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/projects/1) as the
> first and only proposal to gain that awesome status.
>
>  It's not at all clear what should happen to the RFC between this
> point and it getting merged, but I'm determined to test drive the
> process with it. This is my plan:
>
> 1. I'm going to add update the report with a patch to the report
> content, then
>
> 2. wait another two weeks for any objection before
>
> 3. moving the proposal from the Last Call to the Ready for Report
> status, then
>
> 4. announce that the proposal is Ready for Report and
>
> 5. wait another two weeks for the full approval, then finally
>
> 6. merge the RFC.
>
>
>  The only flaw in my cunning plan above is defining what constitutes
> "the full approval". The committee being rather ... disengaged and
> scattered, there is little hope of getting 50% of votes from all its
> members. The criteria of no raised objection, which I've used so far,
> seems much too lax for a full approval. I think the only reasonable fair
> criteria of success would be a public and unanimous approval by at least
> N committee members. I have no idea what N should be, but I know that if
> this test proposal can't garner N approvals, no proposal will ever pass
> the hurdle.
>
>  To make it plain, I suggest we take the number of committee members
> that comment on the test proposal as the maximum bound of N. I do hope
> max(N) > 1.
>
>
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Report merged, steps to follow

2018-11-04 Thread Mario Blažević
Four weeks having passed since the previous discussion with no 
objections, I have now merged the content of the Haskell Report


from https://github.com/haskell/haskell-report

into https://github.com/haskell/rfcs


    To remind everybody again, the point of this move was to enable 
adding an actionable change to the report to every RFC. From this point 
on, any proposal that passes the full process to becoming accepted can 
update the report by the simple act of getting merged.


    In order to test this process, over a year ago I've picked and 
submitted the least controversial RFC I could find, namely 
https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/pull/17. There has been no objection to 
the proposal. In fact there has been no comment whatsoever, but I 
suppose that's beside the point. So today I have moved the RFC to the 
"Last Call" column (https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/projects/1) as the 
first and only proposal to gain that awesome status.


    It's not at all clear what should happen to the RFC between this 
point and it getting merged, but I'm determined to test drive the 
process with it. This is my plan:


1. I'm going to add update the report with a patch to the report 
content, then


2. wait another two weeks for any objection before

3. moving the proposal from the Last Call to the Ready for Report 
status, then


4. announce that the proposal is Ready for Report and

5. wait another two weeks for the full approval, then finally

6. merge the RFC.


    The only flaw in my cunning plan above is defining what constitutes 
"the full approval". The committee being rather ... disengaged and 
scattered, there is little hope of getting 50% of votes from all its 
members. The criteria of no raised objection, which I've used so far, 
seems much too lax for a full approval. I think the only reasonable fair 
criteria of success would be a public and unanimous approval by at least 
N committee members. I have no idea what N should be, but I know that if 
this test proposal can't garner N approvals, no proposal will ever pass 
the hurdle.


    To make it plain, I suggest we take the number of committee members 
that comment on the test proposal as the maximum bound of N. I do hope 
max(N) > 1.



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