RE: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

[Gangumalla, Uma]

Thanks Arun. 

+1 

Regards,
Uma

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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

Uma,

 Voting periods are defined in *minimum* terms, so it already covers what you'd 
like to see i.e. the vote can continue longer.

thanks,
Arun

> On Jun 21, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Gangumalla, Uma"  
> wrote:
> 
> How about proposing vote for 5days and give chance to RM for extending vote 
> for 2more days( total to 7days) if the rc did not receive enough vote within 
> 5days? If a rc received enough votes in 5days, RM can close vote.
> I can see an advantage of 7days voting is, that will cover all the week and 
> weekend days. So, if someone wants to test on weekend time(due to the weekday 
> schedules), that will give chance to them. 
> 
> Regards,
> Uma
> 
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> Subject: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 
> 7
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I'd like to propose we change our by-laws to reduce our voting periods on new 
> releases from 7 days to 5.
> 
> Currently, it just takes too long to turn around releases; particularly if we 
> have critical security fixes etc.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> thanks,
> Arun
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

[Arun Murthy]

Thanks everyone. I'll start a vote tmrw if there are no objections.

Arun


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Jitendra Pandey 
wrote:

> +1, sounds good!
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Andrew Wang 
> wrote:
>
> > +1 here as well, let's do a vote thread (for 7 days, maybe for the last
> > time!)
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli <
> > vino...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > This seems reasonable, +1.
> > >
> > > In case there is inactivity, we already extend dates even today, we can
> > do
> > > the same going forward.
> > >
> > > I don't see major disagreements, time to start a vote?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > +Vinod
> > >
> > > On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Arun C Murthy 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to propose we change our by-laws to reduce our voting
> periods
> > > on new releases from 7 days to 5.
> > > >
> > > > Currently, it just takes too long to turn around releases;
> particularly
> > > if we have critical security fixes etc.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > Arun
> > > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

[Jitendra Pandey]

+1, sounds good!


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Andrew Wang 
wrote:

> +1 here as well, let's do a vote thread (for 7 days, maybe for the last
> time!)
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli <
> vino...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > This seems reasonable, +1.
> >
> > In case there is inactivity, we already extend dates even today, we can
> do
> > the same going forward.
> >
> > I don't see major disagreements, time to start a vote?
> >
> > Thanks
> > +Vinod
> >
> > On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Arun C Murthy  wrote:
> >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > I'd like to propose we change our by-laws to reduce our voting periods
> > on new releases from 7 days to 5.
> > >
> > > Currently, it just takes too long to turn around releases; particularly
> > if we have critical security fixes etc.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Arun
> > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

[Andrew Wang]

+1 here as well, let's do a vote thread (for 7 days, maybe for the last
time!)


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli <
vino...@apache.org> wrote:

> This seems reasonable, +1.
>
> In case there is inactivity, we already extend dates even today, we can do
> the same going forward.
>
> I don't see major disagreements, time to start a vote?
>
> Thanks
> +Vinod
>
> On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Arun C Murthy  wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > I'd like to propose we change our by-laws to reduce our voting periods
> on new releases from 7 days to 5.
> >
> > Currently, it just takes too long to turn around releases; particularly
> if we have critical security fixes etc.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > thanks,
> > Arun
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

[Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli]

This seems reasonable, +1.

In case there is inactivity, we already extend dates even today, we can do the 
same going forward.

I don't see major disagreements, time to start a vote?

Thanks
+Vinod

On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Arun C Murthy  wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> I'd like to propose we change our by-laws to reduce our voting periods on new 
> releases from 7 days to 5.
> 
> Currently, it just takes too long to turn around releases; particularly if we 
> have critical security fixes etc.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> thanks,
> Arun
> 
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

[Thomas Graves]

I¹d be fine with 5 days.  Any shorter and you could have issues with folks
being just out for a weekend and miss the entire vote unless we explicitly
tried to stay away from ending the vote on the weekend.


Tom



On 6/21/14, 12:54 AM, "Arun C Murthy"  wrote:

>Folks,
>
> I'd like to propose we change our by-laws to reduce our voting periods
>on new releases from 7 days to 5.
>
> Currently, it just takes too long to turn around releases; particularly
>if we have critical security fixes etc.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>thanks,
>Arun
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

[Chris Nauroth]

+1 binding.  Thanks, Arun.

Chris Nauroth
Hortonworks
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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Arun C. Murthy 
wrote:

> Uma,
>
>  Voting periods are defined in *minimum* terms, so it already covers what
> you'd like to see i.e. the vote can continue longer.
>
> thanks,
> Arun
>
> > On Jun 21, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Gangumalla, Uma" 
> wrote:
> >
> > How about proposing vote for 5days and give chance to RM for extending
> vote for 2more days( total to 7days) if the rc did not receive enough vote
> within 5days? If a rc received enough votes in 5days, RM can close vote.
> > I can see an advantage of 7days voting is, that will cover all the week
> and weekend days. So, if someone wants to test on weekend time(due to the
> weekday schedules), that will give chance to them.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Uma
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Arun C Murthy [mailto:a...@hortonworks.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:25 AM
> > To: hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org; common-...@hadoop.apache.org;
> yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org; mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > I'd like to propose we change our by-laws to reduce our voting periods
> on new releases from 7 days to 5.
> >
> > Currently, it just takes too long to turn around releases; particularly
> if we have critical security fixes etc.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > thanks,
> > Arun
> >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

[Arun C. Murthy]

Uma,

 Voting periods are defined in *minimum* terms, so it already covers what you'd 
like to see i.e. the vote can continue longer.

thanks,
Arun

> On Jun 21, 2014, at 2:19 AM, "Gangumalla, Uma"  
> wrote:
> 
> How about proposing vote for 5days and give chance to RM for extending vote 
> for 2more days( total to 7days) if the rc did not receive enough vote within 
> 5days? If a rc received enough votes in 5days, RM can close vote.
> I can see an advantage of 7days voting is, that will cover all the week and 
> weekend days. So, if someone wants to test on weekend time(due to the weekday 
> schedules), that will give chance to them. 
> 
> Regards,
> Uma
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Arun C Murthy [mailto:a...@hortonworks.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:25 AM
> To: hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org; common-...@hadoop.apache.org; 
> yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org; mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I'd like to propose we change our by-laws to reduce our voting periods on new 
> releases from 7 days to 5.
> 
> Currently, it just takes too long to turn around releases; particularly if we 
> have critical security fixes etc.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> thanks,
> Arun
> 
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

[Junping Du]

+1. Non-binding.

Thanks,

Junping


On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Arun C Murthy  wrote:

> Folks,
>
>  I'd like to propose we change our by-laws to reduce our voting periods on
> new releases from 7 days to 5.
>
>  Currently, it just takes too long to turn around releases; particularly
> if we have critical security fixes etc.
>
>  Thoughts?
>
> thanks,
> Arun
>
>

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RE: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

[Gangumalla, Uma]

How about proposing vote for 5days and give chance to RM for extending vote for 
2more days( total to 7days) if the rc did not receive enough vote within 5days? 
If a rc received enough votes in 5days, RM can close vote.
I can see an advantage of 7days voting is, that will cover all the week and 
weekend days. So, if someone wants to test on weekend time(due to the weekday 
schedules), that will give chance to them. 

Regards,
Uma

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Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:25 AM
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yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org; mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Change by-laws on release votes: 5 days instead of 7

Folks,

 I'd like to propose we change our by-laws to reduce our voting periods on new 
releases from 7 days to 5.

 Currently, it just takes too long to turn around releases; particularly if we 
have critical security fixes etc.

 Thoughts?

thanks,
Arun


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