[jira] [Comment Edited] (HDFS-15289) Allow viewfs mounts with HDFS/HCFS scheme and centralized mount table

2020-10-15 Thread Junfan Zhang (Jira)


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Junfan Zhang edited comment on HDFS-15289 at 10/15/20, 11:50 AM:
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Hi [~umamaheswararao] thanks for posting this. We have also implemented a 
similar file system and have already applied it online to solve the problems of 
hybrid-cloud architecture and cluster data migration . What I want to know is: 
Does {{ViewFSOverloadScheme}} support the mounting of different cluster paths?


was (Author: zuston):
Hi [~umamaheswararao] Thanks your post. We have also implemented a similar file 
system and have already applied it online to solve the problems of hybrid-cloud 
architecture and cluster data migration . What I want to know is: Does 
{{ViewFSOverloadScheme}} support the mounting of different cluster paths?

> Allow viewfs mounts with HDFS/HCFS scheme and centralized mount table
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> Key: HDFS-15289
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-15289
> Project: Hadoop HDFS
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>  Components: fs
>Affects Versions: 3.2.0
>Reporter: Uma Maheswara Rao G
>Assignee: Uma Maheswara Rao G
>Priority: Major
> Attachments: ViewFSOverloadScheme - V1.0.pdf, ViewFSOverloadScheme.png
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> ViewFS provides flexibility to mount different filesystem types with mount 
> points configuration table. This approach is solving the scalability 
> problems, but users need to reconfigure the filesystem to ViewFS and to its 
> scheme.  This will be problematic in the case of paths persisted in meta 
> stores, ex: Hive. In systems like Hive, it will store uris in meta store. So, 
> changing the file system scheme will create a burden to upgrade/recreate meta 
> stores. In our experience many users are not ready to change that.  
> Router based federation is another implementation to provide coordinated 
> mount points for HDFS federation clusters. Even though this provides 
> flexibility to handle mount points easily, this will not allow 
> other(non-HDFS) file systems to mount. So, this does not solve the purpose 
> when users want to mount external(non-HDFS) filesystems.
> So, the problem here is: Even though many users want to adapt to the scalable 
> fs options available, technical challenges of changing schemes (ex: in meta 
> stores) in deployments are obstructing them. 
> So, we propose to allow hdfs scheme in ViewFS like client side mount system 
> and provision user to create mount links without changing URI paths. 
> I will upload detailed design doc shortly.



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[jira] [Comment Edited] (HDFS-15289) Allow viewfs mounts with HDFS/HCFS scheme and centralized mount table

2020-10-15 Thread Junfan Zhang (Jira)


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Junfan Zhang edited comment on HDFS-15289 at 10/15/20, 11:47 AM:
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Hi [~umamaheswararao] Thanks your post. We have also implemented a similar file 
system and have already applied it online to solve the problems of hybrid-cloud 
architecture and cluster data migration . What I want to know is: Does 
{{ViewFSOverloadScheme}} support the mounting of different cluster paths?


was (Author: zuston):
Hi [~umamaheswararao] Thanks your post. We have also implemented a similar file 
system and have already applied it online to solve the problems of multi-cloud 
architecture and cluster migration . What I want to know is: Does 
{{ViewFSOverloadScheme}} support the mounting of different cluster paths?

> Allow viewfs mounts with HDFS/HCFS scheme and centralized mount table
> -
>
> Key: HDFS-15289
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-15289
> Project: Hadoop HDFS
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>  Components: fs
>Affects Versions: 3.2.0
>Reporter: Uma Maheswara Rao G
>Assignee: Uma Maheswara Rao G
>Priority: Major
> Attachments: ViewFSOverloadScheme - V1.0.pdf, ViewFSOverloadScheme.png
>
>
> ViewFS provides flexibility to mount different filesystem types with mount 
> points configuration table. This approach is solving the scalability 
> problems, but users need to reconfigure the filesystem to ViewFS and to its 
> scheme.  This will be problematic in the case of paths persisted in meta 
> stores, ex: Hive. In systems like Hive, it will store uris in meta store. So, 
> changing the file system scheme will create a burden to upgrade/recreate meta 
> stores. In our experience many users are not ready to change that.  
> Router based federation is another implementation to provide coordinated 
> mount points for HDFS federation clusters. Even though this provides 
> flexibility to handle mount points easily, this will not allow 
> other(non-HDFS) file systems to mount. So, this does not solve the purpose 
> when users want to mount external(non-HDFS) filesystems.
> So, the problem here is: Even though many users want to adapt to the scalable 
> fs options available, technical challenges of changing schemes (ex: in meta 
> stores) in deployments are obstructing them. 
> So, we propose to allow hdfs scheme in ViewFS like client side mount system 
> and provision user to create mount links without changing URI paths. 
> I will upload detailed design doc shortly.



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