[jira] [Commented] (HDFS-2733) Document HA configuration and CLI

2012-02-07 Thread Hudson (Commented) (JIRA)

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Hudson commented on HDFS-2733:
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Integrated in Hadoop-Hdfs-HAbranch-build #71 (See 
[https://builds.apache.org/job/Hadoop-Hdfs-HAbranch-build/71/])
HDFS-2733. Document HA configuration and CLI. Contributed by Aaron T. Myers.

atm : http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/?root=Apache-SVNview=revrev=1241183
Files : 
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/hadoop/common/branches/HDFS-1623/hadoop-hdfs-project/hadoop-hdfs/CHANGES.HDFS-1623.txt
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/hadoop/common/branches/HDFS-1623/hadoop-mapreduce-project/hadoop-yarn/hadoop-yarn-site/src/site/apt/HDFSHighAvailability.apt.vm
* /hadoop/common/branches/HDFS-1623/hadoop-project/src/site/site.xml


 Document HA configuration and CLI
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 Key: HDFS-2733
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-2733
 Project: Hadoop HDFS
  Issue Type: Sub-task
  Components: documentation, ha
Affects Versions: HA branch (HDFS-1623)
Reporter: Eli Collins
Assignee: Aaron T. Myers
 Fix For: HA branch (HDFS-1623)

 Attachments: HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html


 We need to document the configuration changes in HDFS-2231 and the new CLI 
 introduced by HADOOP-7774.

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[jira] [Commented] (HDFS-2733) Document HA configuration and CLI

2012-02-06 Thread Eli Collins (Commented) (JIRA)

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Eli Collins commented on HDFS-2733:
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Looks good. Comments follow.

* Might make sense to use machine and host consistently (maybe pick one).
* In the option of running two redundant NameNodes paragraph would mention 
that we now support an Active/Passive configuration with a hot standby since 
that's the standard HA description for our configuration.
* Perhaps be explicit that there are two types of state, persistent and 
ephemeral state. That all persistent state modifications and some emphemeral 
(eg block allocation) are logged, with the remaining ephemeral state (block 
reports) are handled by the Datanodes communicating two both Namenodes.
* Might be worth mentioning that we fence both with the fencers but the NNs 
also fence operations outside the edits log (eg operations from block reports)
* In the NFS server section, technically there's no requirement it be an NFS 
server. Would mention that the availability of the system is limited by the 
availability of the shared edits dir, therefore in order to remove all single 
points of failure there needs to be redundancy for the shared edits dir. 
Specifically, multiple network paths to the storage, and redundancy in the 
storage itself (disk, network and power).
* Perhaps mention that today manual failover is supported and automatic 
failover is coming?
* Can mention explicitly that the NN/SBN layout allows people to re-use their 
existing 2NN/SBN hardware configuration.
* s/any change/change/
* Wrt syncing metadata directories, perhaps worth noting that you only need to 
sync the edits directory since the shared edits dir only contains edits (people 
may be confused why the old image they copied there never gets updated)
* Should mention that checkHealth currently doesn't do anything

 Document HA configuration and CLI
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 Key: HDFS-2733
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-2733
 Project: Hadoop HDFS
  Issue Type: Sub-task
  Components: documentation, ha
Affects Versions: HA branch (HDFS-1623)
Reporter: Eli Collins
Assignee: Aaron T. Myers
 Attachments: HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html


 We need to document the configuration changes in HDFS-2231 and the new CLI 
 introduced by HADOOP-7774.

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[jira] [Commented] (HDFS-2733) Document HA configuration and CLI

2012-02-06 Thread Uma Maheswara Rao G (Commented) (JIRA)

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Uma Maheswara Rao G commented on HDFS-2733:
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Aaron, Thanks a lot for the document. It really looks great.

couple of typos, please take care while committing the patch if there are no 
more comments.
1)For *exaple*:
2) to *transiton* to 
3) *transitonToActive* and transitionToStandby

Also along with the below lines, will it be good of explaining how Standby Node 
is different than other available checkpointing capable nodes today 
(BackupNode, CheckpointNode, Secondary NameNode) ?
{noformat}
Note that, in an HA cluster, the Standby NameNode also performs checkpoints of 
the namespace state, and thus it is not necessary to run a Secondary NameNode, 
CheckpointNode, or BackupNode in an HA cluster. 
{noformat}

 Document HA configuration and CLI
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 Key: HDFS-2733
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-2733
 Project: Hadoop HDFS
  Issue Type: Sub-task
  Components: documentation, ha
Affects Versions: HA branch (HDFS-1623)
Reporter: Eli Collins
Assignee: Aaron T. Myers
 Attachments: HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFSHighAvailability.html, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html


 We need to document the configuration changes in HDFS-2231 and the new CLI 
 introduced by HADOOP-7774.

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[jira] [Commented] (HDFS-2733) Document HA configuration and CLI

2012-02-06 Thread Stephen Barlow (Commented) (JIRA)

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Stephen Barlow commented on HDFS-2733:
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• Consider simplifying the first sentence describing each of the 8 
configuration parameters, and have it on a separate line from any additional 
discussion to improve scanability. Short noun phrases are better than 
imperatives for introducing parameters (e.g., for #3, Similarly to rpc-address 
above, set the addresses for both NameNodes' HTTP servers to listen on. 
becomes The addresses for both NameNodes' HTTP servers to listen on.) Also 
regarding #3, 'exaple' - 'example'

• Unless config parameters must be set in a particular order, consider 
switching to an unordered list (even though I just referenced an item by number)

• Wherever 'once' means 'after', use 'after' (reduces ambiguity)

 Document HA configuration and CLI
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 Key: HDFS-2733
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-2733
 Project: Hadoop HDFS
  Issue Type: Sub-task
  Components: documentation, ha
Affects Versions: HA branch (HDFS-1623)
Reporter: Eli Collins
Assignee: Aaron T. Myers
 Attachments: HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFSHighAvailability.html, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html


 We need to document the configuration changes in HDFS-2231 and the new CLI 
 introduced by HADOOP-7774.

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[jira] [Commented] (HDFS-2733) Document HA configuration and CLI

2012-02-06 Thread Todd Lipcon (Commented) (JIRA)

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Todd Lipcon commented on HDFS-2733:
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- In the event of an unplanned event could be worded better
- The doc for dfs.federation.nameservices should indicate that, if federation 
is also being used, that this would be a comma-separated list of nameservice 
IDs (some of which may be HA and some of which might not be)
- I think the example nameservice ID should be something like mycluster or 
mynameservice rather than ha-nn-uri -- it doubles as the URI but that's a 
side effect rather than the important bit, I think.
- Add a note for dfs.namenode.http-address that https-address should be 
configured on a secure cluster
- For the shell fencing method, should note that the address of the service 
to be fenced will be inserted as the first argument
- This is not yet implemented, and at present will always return success -- 
if the NN is down it will return non-zero, right? So it still has some basic 
use.


 Document HA configuration and CLI
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 Key: HDFS-2733
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-2733
 Project: Hadoop HDFS
  Issue Type: Sub-task
  Components: documentation, ha
Affects Versions: HA branch (HDFS-1623)
Reporter: Eli Collins
Assignee: Aaron T. Myers
 Attachments: HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFSHighAvailability.html, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html


 We need to document the configuration changes in HDFS-2231 and the new CLI 
 introduced by HADOOP-7774.

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[jira] [Commented] (HDFS-2733) Document HA configuration and CLI

2012-02-06 Thread Todd Lipcon (Commented) (JIRA)

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Todd Lipcon commented on HDFS-2733:
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+1, lgtm.

 Document HA configuration and CLI
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 Key: HDFS-2733
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-2733
 Project: Hadoop HDFS
  Issue Type: Sub-task
  Components: documentation, ha
Affects Versions: HA branch (HDFS-1623)
Reporter: Eli Collins
Assignee: Aaron T. Myers
 Attachments: HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, HDFS-2733-HDFS-1623.patch, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html, 
 HDFSHighAvailability.html, HDFSHighAvailability.html


 We need to document the configuration changes in HDFS-2231 and the new CLI 
 introduced by HADOOP-7774.

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