Re: u-politit/ u-folitit
Even-Shoshan has "u-poli.ti.kah". RLIN has 51 clusters with "u-foli.ti.kah" and 78 clusters with "u-poli.ti.kah" Should we establish a practice whereby we look first in Even-Shoshan? If Even-Shoshan provides us with an example of one of these types of words, we transcribe it as it appears. If a foreign loan word beginning with b/v, k/kh, p/f does not appear with a prefix in Even-Shoshan,perhaps we should develop some sort of guideline governing its transcription. At 09:48 AM 3/24/2005 -0500, you wrote: Found these: Ravitzky, Aviezer. Title: ha-Kahanaut ke-tofaah todatit u-poli·tit / Aviezer Ravits·ki. Publication info: Yerushalayim : Sifriyat Shazar, ha-Makhon le-Yahadut zemanenu, ha-Universi·tah ha-Ivrit bi-Yerushalayim, 1985. 2 others as well. Giladi, Dan Title: ha-Yishuv bi-te·kufat ha-aliyah ha-reviit (1924-1929) : be·hinah kalkalit u-foli·tit / Dan Giladi. Publication info: Tel-Aviv : Am oved - Tarbut ve-·hinukh, 1973. I couldn't get into LC's catalogue this morning, but I assume they're both LC records. Barry Heidi G. Lerner Hebraica/Judaica Cataloger Catalog Dept. Stanford Univ. Libraries Stanford, CA 94305-6004 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: 650-725-9953 fax:650-725-1120
Re: u-politit/ u-folitit
I am loath to institute a "practice" REQUIRING everyone to check Even-Shoshan for treatment of doubtful words--for the simple reason that "doubtfulness thresholds" vary and not everyone will apply the practice to the same words. Let's say instead that if anyone NOTICES this kind of exceptional treatment of an initial labial consonant in Even-Shoshan's usages, that person will notify Heb-NACO. Words not proved by means of Even-Shoshan to be exceptions should continue to be treated as unexceptional. Heidi, can you start an online list to keep track of these exceptions? I'll work on fixing any LC "u-folitik..." that I can find. Joan >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/05 3:43 PM >>> Even-Shoshan has "u-poli.ti.kah". RLIN has 51 clusters with "u-foli.ti.kah" and 78 clusters with "u-poli.ti.kah" Should we establish a practice whereby we look first in Even-Shoshan? If Even-Shoshan provides us with an example of one of these types of words, we transcribe it as it appears. If a foreign loan word beginning with b/v, k/kh, p/f does not appear with a prefix in Even-Shoshan,perhaps we should develop some sort of guideline governing its transcription.
Re: u-politit/ u-folitit
Sure! And you RLIN catalogers - how are things going today (3/25?). After three good days things here are back to their normal RLIN21 not working frustration. Heidi At 11:44 AM 3/25/2005 -0500, you wrote: I am loath to institute a "practice" REQUIRING everyone to check Even-Shoshan for treatment of doubtful words--for the simple reason that "doubtfulness thresholds" vary and not everyone will apply the practice to the same words. Let's say instead that if anyone NOTICES this kind of exceptional treatment of an initial labial consonant in Even-Shoshan's usages, that person will notify Heb-NACO. Words not proved by means of Even-Shoshan to be exceptions should continue to be treated as unexceptional. Heidi, can you start an online list to keep track of these exceptions? I'll work on fixing any LC "u-folitik..." that I can find. Joan >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/05 3:43 PM >>> Even-Shoshan has "u-poli.ti.kah". RLIN has 51 clusters with "u-foli.ti.kah" and 78 clusters with "u-poli.ti.kah" Should we establish a practice whereby we look first in Even-Shoshan? If Even-Shoshan provides us with an example of one of these types of words, we transcribe it as it appears. If a foreign loan word beginning with b/v, k/kh, p/f does not appear with a prefix in Even-Shoshan,perhaps we should develop some sort of guideline governing its transcription. Heidi G. Lerner Hebraica/Judaica Cataloger Catalog Dept. Stanford Univ. Libraries Stanford, CA 94305-6004 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: 650-725-9953 fax:650-725-1120
