Re: Where are suggestions or open discussions of Guix at large made?
Hi, Of course, I agree with everything that's said here. That's exactly why I am excited about Guix! I think it has a sound mechanism to fine-tune the degree of impurity one wishes to accept. What I was thinking was maybe more organizational - is someone coming up to form a group or something š that provides for a compromised (in-terms of accountability and license) yet convenient environment, akin to Ubuntu, using the fine mechanisms mentioned here? It looks like Guix is creating a ripe environment for a service provider to do these things š Cheers, Yasu > On Dec 8, 2020, at 09:51, zimoun wrote: > ļ»æHi, > >> On Mon, 07 Dec 2020 at 22:55, zna...@disroot.org wrote: >> Guix repeats the idea of Nix, but realising it more preciously and >> elegantly. > > The word ārepeatā is incorrect here. It is more appropriated to say: > Guix is based on the idea of Nix or Guix applies similar ideas pioneered > by Nix. > > The divergence is clear enough since the very beginning to not repeat > the confusing / wrong: āGuix is a fork of Nix implemented in Schemeā. > >> It is hard to package some software you like for Guix, > > It depends on how much Love are we ready to put in? :-) > >> but forking guix breaking its elegance for just to install firmware, >> Oracle, Chrome and other stuff is not rational at all, i think. > > The concept of channels avoids to fork and instead allow to extend. It > is possible to extend by adding packages, as the channel guix-past for > instance, or by adding subcommands, as the channel home-manager > illustrates for example. > > >> If you want popular comfortable OS on your home computer, that is not >> idea of Guix. > > Popular is meaningless here. Comfortable, if not then I feel I am > failing and so please point your unpleasant experience and then letās > see how to fix it. :-) > > > All the best, > simon
Re: Where are suggestions or open discussions of Guix at large made?
Hi, On Mon, 07 Dec 2020 at 22:55, zna...@disroot.org wrote: > Guix repeats the idea of Nix, but realising it more preciously and > elegantly. The word ārepeatā is incorrect here. It is more appropriated to say: Guix is based on the idea of Nix or Guix applies similar ideas pioneered by Nix. The divergence is clear enough since the very beginning to not repeat the confusing / wrong: āGuix is a fork of Nix implemented in Schemeā. > It is hard to package some software you like for Guix, It depends on how much Love are we ready to put in? :-) > but forking guix breaking its elegance for just to install firmware, > Oracle, Chrome and other stuff is not rational at all, i think. The concept of channels avoids to fork and instead allow to extend. It is possible to extend by adding packages, as the channel guix-past for instance, or by adding subcommands, as the channel home-manager illustrates for example. > If you want popular comfortable OS on your home computer, that is not > idea of Guix. Popular is meaningless here. Comfortable, if not then I feel I am failing and so please point your unpleasant experience and then letās see how to fix it. :-) All the best, simon
Re: Where are suggestions or open discussions of Guix at large made?
zna...@disroot.org writes: > If you want popular comfortable OS on your home computer, that is not > idea of Guix. I must have been doing things wrong then. I find Guix System to be exceptionally comfortable, and itās the most popular OS on my home computers ;) @Yasuaki: Guix can be and is regularly extended with custom channels. Since browsers and different variants of the kernel Linux are just packages, channels can provide such packages, even when the official Guix channels donāt provide them. -- Ricardo
Re: Where are suggestions or open discussions of Guix at large made?
Guix repeats the idea of Nix, but realising it more preciously and elegantly. Instead of self-made imperfect language describing configuration Guix is using powerful Guile. You want some forks of Guix, do you? It is hard to package some software you like for Guix, but forking guix breaking its elegance for just to install firmware, Oracle, Chrome and other stuff is not rational at all, i think. I think, there is a sense to tune Guix for some commercial solutions like web-server, database server. Guix and reproducible builds are from 5th industrial revolution (that did not happened yet) when you can easily change your production cycle for even each one product to fulfil desire of every customer. There you need to configure your production cycle many ways and every configuration must work! If you want popular comfortable OS on your home computer, that is not idea of Guix. December 7, 2020 9:43 PM, "Yasuaki Kudo" wrote: > Hello! > > I wonder which mailing list (or anything else) is the best for open-ended > Guix discussions. > > I think Guix has a huge potential and it a needs a downgraded version (akin > to how Ubuntu makes a > worse version of Debian) so that more people can use it. As it stands, by > default, Guix doesn't > have: > > * Regular, unpatched Linux with unaccountable black magic firmware code > * Polluted web browsers like Google Chrome > * Visual Studio Code that probably has similar issues as Google Chrome? > * and on and on... > > The first is one of the most serious problems because computers with AMD > graphics cards won't even > boot without it? (The installer may, but once installed, it seems to halt > during boot, even when > desktop services are turned off?) > > I have heard of PantherX but I wonder if anyone is thinking about > "vernacular" dirty > Guix-derivative with all sorts of horrible compromises... š > > Cheers, > Yasu
How to secure Grub control from other distro?
Hello! I have two distros on my PC: on /dev/sda - Guix on /dev/sdc - Ubuntu Today, after update and upgrade of newly installed Ubuntu and also after installation of lubuntu-desktop and lxde on ubuntu, I was unfortunately grieved. Lubuntu had recovered my Grub and had broken everything! I was need to boot into Guix with grub command line and make `guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm` for to get my Grub controlling by Guix again! I have a question. Have I any possibility to secure and save my Grub from other buggy distros i may setup on other ssd in my pc? I think it will be hard to fight with ubuntu or debian or some other distro not to touch Grub.
Where are suggestions or open discussions of Guix at large made?
Hello! I wonder which mailing list (or anything else) is the best for open-ended Guix discussions. I think Guix has a huge potential and it a needs a downgraded version (akin to how Ubuntu makes a worse version of Debian) so that more people can use it. As it stands, by default, Guix doesn't have: * Regular, unpatched Linux with unaccountable black magic firmware code * Polluted web browsers like Google Chrome * Visual Studio Code that probably has similar issues as Google Chrome? * and on and on... The first is one of the most serious problems because computers with AMD graphics cards won't even boot without it? (The installer may, but once installed, it seems to halt during boot, even when desktop services are turned off?) I have heard of PantherX but I wonder if anyone is thinking about "vernacular" dirty Guix-derivative with all sorts of horrible compromises... š Cheers, Yasu
NAS drive
Hi, I have a NAS drive which I would like to connect to in my house. I have done this many times from other Linux systems. However today I struggled with guix. I have installed nfs-utils. That allows me to use the mount command: sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.17:/Multimedia /mnt/nas However, when I do this I get a bad command with the response that I would need a file for nfs with some extra detail. I am wondering whether I am running into a permissions issue. Obviously when I install nfs-utils I am running this as myself rather than the system. ? Cheers Roy.
Re: Integrate Guix GUI programs into foreign distro's desktop?
Hey Hartmut, You may want to look into wrap-program which is used in many packages. Similar things are done I. The glib-or-gtk-build-system (I think it is called). Hope that helps, John
Re: Integrate Guix GUI programs into foreign distro's desktop?
Hartmut Goebel
writes:
> Hi,
>> What I do is to ensure that I have the path to the
>> Guix binaries configured properly:
>>
>> --8<---cut here---start->8---
>> export PATH="$HOME/.config/guix/current/bin:$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH"
>
> Thanks, anyhow this does not lock like what I'
> seeking. I want to add GUI programm, which are
> isntalled in a profile, while your example only
> adds guix itself - not any profile.
>
In that case, you'd just modify the path to point
to your profile's bin. Another way would be to
source the /etc/profile which
basically set's all these paths for you.
> And what about not GUIC_LOC_PATH,Ā XDG_*_DIRS,Ā
> and all the other env-vars. How to avoid conflicts
> with QTDIRS5, QT_PLUGIN_PATH?
See above.
Wrt QT, I'm not exactly sure how to help with
that. I barely use applications that use QT(most
of the things I run use GTK). I can see that GTK
is somewhat set:
--8<---cut here---start->8--
-
ā ~ less ~/.guix-profile/etc/profile | grep GTK
export
GUIX_GTK3_PATH="${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/36cyb6ndkdd2r9v2fhra68yzdnc89sk3-profile}/lib/gtk-3.0${GUIX_GTK3_PATH:+:}$GUIX_GTK3_PATH"
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
The variables defined in the
/etc/profile set the correct paths wrt
your actual profile...
I'm not sure if I was helpful... perhaps someone
else who uses QT applications could chime in and
provide some hints.
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