Re: some novice problems
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 04:55:15PM +0200, Jean Schurger wrote: - where can i found gnumach-dev ? probably in the devel dir - can i find ssh already packages for hurd ? Not as far as I know. OpenSSH has some issues with the random number stuff and I haven't tried any other ssh implementation. - i read in faq that X servers dont works. is it yet true ? Marcus recently fixed this. X now works on Hurd and rocks my display. Erik. ___ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd
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gnumach-dev
where can i found the gnumach-dev debian package ? i saw at ftp://alpha.gnu.org/.../devel/ ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-hurd-i386/devel/ where can i see more ? Thanks -- Jean Schurger- Free Software Engineer (+33) 6 11 15 59 20 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alcôve : L'informatique est libre http://www.alcove.fr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd
How I installed the Hurd on VMware.
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to vmware.guest.misc as well.
a href=http://www.vmware.comVMware/a is a nifty (albeit non-free,
alas) program that emulates a physical PC in software. It's ideal for
messing about with a new operating system, when you don't want to
repartition your disk or reboot your machine.
I have what I believe is the latest version of VMware for Linux --
2.0.2 build 621.
First the Executive Summary:
* grub-boot-0.5.95.image appears to have less-than-useful defaults in
the file menu.lst -- "timeout" is set to 0, which means you don't
get to see the boot menu, and "default" is also set to 0, which
means it tries to boot multi-user, with the root device being sd0s1
-- neither of those settings were what I wanted as I installed the
Hurd.
* For some utterly mysterious reason, the Hurd (or Mach, I'm not sure
which) fails to boot when the virtual machine has more than 32MB of
memory, but works fine with exactly 32MB.
Now the details:
[ In almost all cases below, when I talk about rebooting, or about
typing something at a command prompt, I'm referring to rebooting a
*virtual* machine, and typing something at the *virtual machine's*
command prompt, not my actual Linux "host" machine.
The only commands that I recall running on my actual host machine
were those that
* downloaded the files for the Hurd
* started a Web browser to read the instructions
* ran VMware itself
* appended some zeros to the grub boot image (I explain that further
below). ]
I started by reading
http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/getting-help.html#Installation. That
site referred me to http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/~mcv21/hurd.html, but
that site appeared to be down, so I settled for
http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/easy.html. (I would have preferred
reading the former cam.ac.uk page, since #Installation says that it is
the master, whereas the gnu.org page is only an infrequently-(once per
week) updated copy.)
I then prepared two "virtual" disks for VMware, one for the Hurd's
root and one for swap. Here's how I did it: I started VMware, and
used its Configuration Editor to create two new virtual disks, one 500
MB, the other 200 MB. Then I connected the larger of those disks to a
virtual Linux machine that I already had lying around, and booted it;
following the instructions, I then (at the virtual Linux machine's
prompt), did
fdisk /dev/hdd
In fdisk, I created a standard Linux (type 83) partition spanning the
entire disk. Then, still at the virtual Linux console, I created a
filesystem on it:
mke2fs -O sparse_super -o hurd /dev/hdd1
just as the instructions said (except, of course, I used /dev/hdd1
instead of whichever special file that the instructions mentioned).
I then halted the virtual machine, and installed the other virtual
disk, and used fdisk to create a partition on it, this time making it
type 82 (Linux swap). (I would have preferred to prepare both disks
at once, but the virtual machine only "has" four IDE devices, and
three were already in use, so I could prepare only one disk at a time
-- and the virtual machine requires a reboot whenever you change
"hardware".)
Onto my actual Linux host machine, I downloaded gnu-2925.tar.gz
and grub-boot-0.5.95.image from
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/pub/gnu/hurd/contrib/marcus/. I made them
available via NFS to the virtual machine, which I once again booted
into Linux. I had the larger of the two disks (the one on which I'd
created a filesystem) installed, and I mounted it under /gnu, and then
did
cd /gnu
tar --same-owner zxpf /blah/blah/blah/gnu-2925.tar.gz
Note that I believe the command line given on the Web page is wrong --
it says
tar --same-owner -zxvpf /path/to/tarball /gnu
and I believe that the final "/gnu" argument has no effect.
I then shut down the virtual linux machine.
Back on the host machine, I appended some zeros to the grub boot image
with the following shell script. I did this because I believe
(although I'm not sure) that VMware has a bug, or misfeature, in that
it doesn't gracefully deal with floppy images that are smaller than
the expected size for a particular format; I can't remember the
details. In any case, I doubt it hurt.
#!/bin/sh
set -e
# Append some zeros to the named file, in order to make it just the
# right size.
# This is the size of a standard 1.44MB floppy disk, in bytes.
desired_size=1474560
file_name=$1
if [ ! -r $file_name ]; then
echo $file_name is not readable.
exit 1
fi
shift
if [ -n "$1" ]; then
desired_size=$1
fi
actual_size=$(ls -l $file_name | awk '{print $5}')
echo File name : $file_name
echo Desired size: $desired_size
echo Actual size : $actual_size
if [ $actual_size -ge $desired_size ]; then
echo Actual size
Re: How I installed the Hurd on VMware.
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Eric Hanchrow wrote: a href=http://www.vmware.comVMware/a is a nifty (albeit non-free, alas) program that emulates a physical PC in software. It's ideal for [Tsss, the real GNU system running as task of a proprietary software] There is a free project named plex86 which aims to do the same as VMware and it would be a Good Thing to support this project to mature to a level where it can be used to develop free OSes. Ciao, Werner -- Werner Koch GnuPG key: 621CC013 OpenIT GmbH http://www.OpenIT.de ___ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd
Re: some novice problems
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 04:55:15PM +0200, Jean Schurger wrote: when login, i have the message: mesg: no sush file or directory (or something like this) - where to found mesg ? ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/hurd/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-hurd-i386/base/util-linux_* i installed gcc, make, libc-0.2-dev (the .debs), i want to compile ssh. - is it possible to symlink something with the gnumach source to break the headers dependences ? No. - can i find ssh already packages for hurd ? It's at http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ssh/ - i read in faq that X servers dont works. is it yet true ? Not any longer. See the mailing list archive of the last days. Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.orgfor public PGP Key [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd
Re: How I installed the Hurd on VMware.
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 08:10:04AM -0700, Eric Hanchrow wrote: I was then able to run "dselect", and download lots of Debian packages from woody, with *almost* no problems -- a few packages failed to configure, but there were clear messages about lack of memory, so I plan on increasing the size of the swap disk, and continuing. any chance of putting the virtual disk somewhere for download so that people can play with hurd? I can provide diskspace. I was trying to install hurd under vmware today (what a coincidence :-)) but not having virtual linux, neither space for it, I tried to untar the gnu file onto /dev/nb0, all went well but after some files (at random point) the whole host computer just froze... opened network connections worked, but alt+sysrq did not. I will try later with some linux mini-distributions under vmware, but a ready hurd virtual disk will be helpful :-) -- --- | Radovan Garabik http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | --- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread! ___ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd
Re: Porting FreeBSD's/OpenBSD's User-level ppp(8) to the Hurd
On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 04:32:20AM +0200, Farid Hajji wrote:
2. If there is no such translator, is there an officially approved or
preferred way to access native gnumach drivers? Of course, there is
always the possibility to get the master device port from the PROC
server (like in e.g. glibc/sysdeps/mach/hurd/settimeofday.c) and
look for the com driver directly, then try to interact with it in
a way shown in gnumach/i386/i386at/com.{h,c}. I'm however more than
reluctant to start work on this kind of stuff right now, since serial
drivers can be really tricky to implement/interface with correctly.
Of course, threading will also be an involved issue here (I think),
not even to mention exception ports and all this.
Here again, the code in hurd/term/devio.c is all I need.
Only two remaining questions:
a.) How to I settrans the term translator to a /dev/ttyS* on one side
and have it use gnumach's com driver on the other side?
From MAKEDEV:
console|tty[0-9][0-9a-f]|tty[0-9a-f]|com[0-9])
st $I root 600 /hurd/term ${DEVDIR}/$I device $I;;
So, "settrans /dev/com1 /hurd/term /dev/com1 device com1"
would connect /dev/com1 with com1 in GNU Mach.
The Hurd doesn't use the ttyS? notation as linux (although we could).
b.) Only baud rates up to 38400 are defined/used in switch statements.
Does this mean, that 57600 and higher are not possible with term
and/or gnumach's com driver?
gnumach/include/device/tty_status.h doesn't know about 57600, although
i386/i386at/com.c does. Maybe it's just a matter of adding the missing
cases at the appropriate places... however, this should be the smallest
problem...
Thanks,
Marcus
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