Re: [Help-hurd] Mach Documentation from OSF
Hi Brent, > Right -- and what's mk++? Are these "improved" version of > Mach? I can't tell, since the sourcecode of mk++ was never released by OSF (AFAIK). I'm trying to figure out the enhancements of mk++ from Mach, but the only resource I'm having are the descriptions in the docs at opengroup's FTP site. If we already talk about Mach, it may be interesting to compare osfmk from the mklinux project and rtmach from keio/ntt to gnumach/oskit-mach. gnumach is lacking e.g. norma/xmm (and of course the realtime semantics of rtmach, though that would be overkill for now). OTOH, oskit-mach is the right way to add Linux/FreeBSD driver code to Mach in a modular way. It would be a very good idea to add norma/xmm to oskit-mach in the future. NORMA-1 (as in cmu mach 3.0 mk83e) was utterly buggy/broken and NORMA-2 code was never released by OSF for misc. reasons. Building distributed systems with NORMA may not be very efficient (as research in this area showed), but it's at least an option. I wish we could have network wide IPC and DSM in the Hurd, be it in gnumach and/or maybe as user-level application libraries/servers. Adding efficiency (in general as well as in the distributed case) may be possible in the future, once the Hurd (a.k.a glibc sysdeps) is ported to L4. Is anyone working on this project right now? -Farid. -- Farid Hajji -- Unix Systems and Network Admin | Phone: +49-2131-67-555 Broicherdorfstr. 83, D-41564 Kaarst, Germany | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + - - - - - - - - - - - - Murphy's Law fails only when you try to demonstrate it, and thus succeeds. ___ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd
Re: [Help-hurd] Mach Documentation from OSF
Please remove me from this mailing list, as I can no longer actively use/support the hurd. - Original Message - From: Brent Fulgham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Farid Hajji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:45 AM Subject: RE: [Help-hurd] Mach Documentation from OSF > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 11:57:51PM +0200, Farid Hajji wrote: > > > FYI, here are a some interesting documents about Mach. > > > Some of them are known to everyone, others may be new. > > > > > > ftp://ftp.opengroup.org/pub/ri/os > > > > That's a lot of stuff! Any recommendations, which are most > > relevant for the Hurd (basic Mach features which are in > > gnumach etc)? > > > > Right -- and what's mk++? Are these "improved" version of > Mach? > > Thanks, > > -Brent > > ___ > Help-hurd mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd > ___ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd
RE: [Help-hurd] Mach Documentation from OSF
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 11:57:51PM +0200, Farid Hajji wrote: > > FYI, here are a some interesting documents about Mach. > > Some of them are known to everyone, others may be new. > > > > ftp://ftp.opengroup.org/pub/ri/os > > That's a lot of stuff! Any recommendations, which are most > relevant for the Hurd (basic Mach features which are in > gnumach etc)? > Right -- and what's mk++? Are these "improved" version of Mach? Thanks, -Brent ___ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd
Re: [Help-hurd] Mach Documentation from OSF
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 11:57:51PM +0200, Farid Hajji wrote: > FYI, here are a some interesting documents about Mach. > Some of them are known to everyone, others may be new. > > ftp://ftp.opengroup.org/pub/ri/os That's a lot of stuff! Any recommendations, which are most relevant for the Hurd (basic Mach features which are in gnumach etc)? Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.orgfor public PGP Key [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd
