Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 at 8:06 AM
> From: "Gavin Smith"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> On Sat, Dec 05, 2020 at 03:31:19AM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > I often end up with may @ifset and @ifclear in my documents.
> > Is it acceptable to call the following command? It does work
> > as expected.
> >
> > @inlineifset{igrank-1, @set imgpth /home/hagbard}
> >
> > imgpth: @value{imgpth}
>
> Yes, that looks fine. You could also do
>
> @ifset igrank-1
> @set imgpth /home/hagbard
> @end ifset
Wonderful. Was using @ifset but at times using @inlineifset
is more convenient, whilst keeping initialisations compact.
This is most useful when setting up images (e.g. for the pdf
and html, where two files could be used).
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 at 8:03 AM > From: "Gavin Smith" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:20:47PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > Understood. It would be extremely helpful to users trying to test or check > > the development version to put a remark about /doc/texinfo.tex in the > > section > > "Getting a Copy of the Git Repository". > > I think it is clear if you say to a user, "that issue is fixed in > the development version in git", then they should know to look in git, > not on the website for versions released for users. I understand the scheme now, but is far from obvious to me. You could simplify the following page, with a short categorisation and description of the whole working scheme https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/ start === TEXINFO === Texinfo is the official documentation format of the GNU project. It is used by many non-GNU projects as well. Texinfo uses a single source file to produce output in a number of formats, both online and printed (DVI, HTML, Info, PDF, XML, etc.). This means that instead of writing different documents for online information and another for a printed manual, you need write only one document. And when the work is revised, you need revise only that one document. The Texinfo system is well-integrated with GNU Emacs. Official Releases = Download the latest official version (also on all GNU mirrors). Older releases are also available. Get the latest version of the texinfo.tex macro file. The macro file updates the latest official release before the next full Texinfo release is made. The file is used for converting Texinfo source to DVI or PDF files for printing and viewing, using the TeX typesetting system. Because the file is updated much more frequently; ) please use the latest version. The Development Version === You can browse and get a copy of the Development Version of Texinfo using the Git Repository. The latest development version of the texinfo.tex macro file can be found in the directory "doc" of the Texinfo development source tree. Texinfo Manual and Reference Card = The Texinfo manual and standalone Info reader manual from the latest official release, in various formats. See the GNU documentation page for manuals for other GNU packages. The Texinfo reference card formatted for letter-size paper (four landscape pages) and for A4-size paper. Texinfo Project === Texinfo project page The NEWS file listing notable changes by release, the ChangeLog file detailing all changes, and the TODO file with future projects large and small, awaiting volunteers. Pretests If available, the latest pretest. Pretests are inherently unstable. Please try them and report problems—that's why they are done, so the official release will be as reliable as it can be. === MAILING LISTS ... etc ===
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Sat, Dec 05, 2020 at 03:31:19AM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> I often end up with may @ifset and @ifclear in my documents.
> Is it acceptable to call the following command? It does work
> as expected.
>
> @inlineifset{igrank-1, @set imgpth /home/hagbard}
>
> imgpth: @value{imgpth}
Yes, that looks fine. You could also do
@ifset igrank-1
@set imgpth /home/hagbard
@end ifset
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:20:47PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > Understood. It would be extremely helpful to users trying to test or check > the development version to put a remark about /doc/texinfo.tex in the section > "Getting a Copy of the Git Repository". I think it is clear if you say to a user, "that issue is fixed in the development version in git", then they should know to look in git, not on the website for versions released for users.
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
Gavin Smith wrote: If you don't know where to copy the file, then putting it in the same directory as your main Texinfo input file should work. This is good advice if you distribute Texinfo manuals, especially if your manuals rely on the latest features in texinfo.tex. If you use Automake at the top-level directory (as DejaGnu does) and have a manual in doc/, you will need to set TEXINFO_TEX=doc/texinfo.tex and add doc/texinfo.tex to EXTRA_DIST in your Makefile.am, or at least this is what was needed for DejaGnu. I think Automake defaults will work if you use SUBDIRS and recursive make. -- Jacob
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
I often end up with may @ifset and @ifclear in my documents.
Is it acceptable to call the following command? It does work
as expected.
@inlineifset{igrank-1, @set imgpth /home/hagbard}
imgpth: @value{imgpth}
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 at 12:30 AM
> From: "Patrice Dumas"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
>
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:43:09PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > Fantastic. Things age working now. texinfo.tex is mentioned in the README
> > file.
> >
> > There are three files README, INSTALL, INSTALL.generic. When reading them,
> > they continue
> > referring around between themselves.
>
> The INSTALL.generic is "out of our control" it is the generic
> INSTALL file for autoconf/automake based packages. So we add
> a specific INSTALL file for the texinfo specifics in link with
> installing.
>
> > Can there be just one README (otherwise have just one INSTALL file) with
> > abbreviated
> > set of instructions of typical installation, at the beginning?
>
> I am not that convinced that it is a good idea. The reference to
> INSTALL appears at the beginning of the README and I think that INSTALL*
> are best separate as otherwise the INSTALL specific parts would get in the
> way of having a short README. As I said above, the INSTALL.generic is
> outside of our control, which makes the only real option merging the
> specific INSTALL in the README.
>
> > Thank you both for bearing with me. But it was not so clear and quick
> > about what exactly one should do when trying development versions.
>
> It is indeed not clear nor quick.
>
> It seems to me that README-hacking contains most of the information
> (though not about building in a different directory from the source),
> and then the INSTALL file. It is a bit scattered, but the problem is
> that different persons will not need the same information depending on
> where they come from and need to do (from a release, the developpment
> source, testing or installing). Also the overall build system is not
> simple, there is an intrinsic complexity that we can't really remove by
> instructions (the whole autoconf/automake/gettext, with two translated
> sets, and additionally some Makefile parts being generated).
>
> It is not so clear to me what/if we need to add more information, people
> testing from the development tree are very few, answering to questions
> by mail could be more efficient than trying to document everything.
>
> That being said, if you have specific ideas of changes to the files, do
> not hesitate to propose, in particular in the form of patches.
>
> >
>
> In general there is also a need to run
> ./autogen.sh
> in the source thee before going into the build directory.
>
> >
> > % mkdir build
> > % cd build
> > % srcdir/configure [options] [target]
> > % make
> > % make install
> > % cp srcdir/doc/texinfo.tex workdir
> >
> > Where workdir is the directory of your main Texinfo input file.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:53 PM
> > > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:46:44PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:30 PM
> > > > > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > > > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:22:34PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:17 PM
> > > > > > > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > > > > > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > > > > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Christopher Dimech
> > > > > > > wrote:
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 at 12:30 AM > From: "Patrice Dumas" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:43:09PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > Fantastic. Things age working now. texinfo.tex is mentioned in the README > > file. > > > > There are three files README, INSTALL, INSTALL.generic. When reading them, > > they continue > > referring around between themselves. > > The INSTALL.generic is "out of our control" it is the generic > INSTALL file for autoconf/automake based packages. So we add > a specific INSTALL file for the texinfo specifics in link with > installing. > > > Can there be just one README (otherwise have just one INSTALL file) with > > abbreviated > > set of instructions of typical installation, at the beginning? > > I am not that convinced that it is a good idea. The reference to > INSTALL appears at the beginning of the README and I think that INSTALL* > are best separate as otherwise the INSTALL specific parts would get in the > way of having a short README. As I said above, the INSTALL.generic is > outside of our control, which makes the only real option merging the > specific INSTALL in the README. > > > Thank you both for bearing with me. But it was not so clear and quick > > about what exactly one should do when trying development versions. > > It is indeed not clear nor quick. So we agree > It seems to me that README-hacking contains most of the information > (though not about building in a different directory from the source), > and then the INSTALL file. It is a bit scattered, but the problem is > that different persons will not need the same information depending on > where they come from and need to do (from a release, the developpment > source, testing or installing). Also the overall build system is not > simple, there is an intrinsic complexity that we can't really remove by > instructions (the whole autoconf/automake/gettext, with two translated > sets, and additionally some Makefile parts being generated). And README-hacking. Fuckin hell!!! And then, it does not contain all the necessary information. > It is not so clear to me what/if we need to add more information, people > testing from the development tree are very few, answering to questions > by mail could be more efficient than trying to document everything. I could have got on your nerves, because everything was good on your side. > That being said, if you have specific ideas of changes to the files, do > not hesitate to propose, in particular in the form of patches. Perhaps a document describing what you have said to me (in some text file). There were similar problems with Gcc in the past, which were eventually sorted out. Used to test some very dodgy versions as new standards were being implemented. I am in the process of releasing the Gunga Din Software, that is focused on setting a Gnu System for new users of Gnu-Like. Will include abbreviated versions of Gnu User Guide and Gnu Admin Guide. Could write something there. But have got to spend some time getting my head around how it would look like, and that the description works for those who need to understand what to do so they can get back rapidly to their own work - that's my focus. You could go through it and decide on whether to include some parts. Regards Christopher > > > > In general there is also a need to run > ./autogen.sh > in the source thee before going into the build directory. Yes, that's what I had to do. We can write some of these scenarios vith typical examples. > > > > % mkdir build > > % cd build > > % srcdir/configure [options] [target] > > % make > > % make install > > % cp srcdir/doc/texinfo.tex workdir > > > > Where workdir is the directory of your main Texinfo input file. > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:53 PM > > > From: "Patrice Dumas" > > > To: "Christopher Dimech" > > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu" > > > > > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:46:44PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:30 PM > > > > > From: "Patrice Dumas" > > > > > To: "Christopher Dimech" > > > > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu" > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:43:09PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> Fantastic. Things age working now. texinfo.tex is mentioned in the README
> file.
>
> There are three files README, INSTALL, INSTALL.generic. When reading them,
> they continue
> referring around between themselves.
The INSTALL.generic is "out of our control" it is the generic
INSTALL file for autoconf/automake based packages. So we add
a specific INSTALL file for the texinfo specifics in link with
installing.
> Can there be just one README (otherwise have just one INSTALL file) with
> abbreviated
> set of instructions of typical installation, at the beginning?
I am not that convinced that it is a good idea. The reference to
INSTALL appears at the beginning of the README and I think that INSTALL*
are best separate as otherwise the INSTALL specific parts would get in the
way of having a short README. As I said above, the INSTALL.generic is
outside of our control, which makes the only real option merging the
specific INSTALL in the README.
> Thank you both for bearing with me. But it was not so clear and quick
> about what exactly one should do when trying development versions.
It is indeed not clear nor quick.
It seems to me that README-hacking contains most of the information
(though not about building in a different directory from the source),
and then the INSTALL file. It is a bit scattered, but the problem is
that different persons will not need the same information depending on
where they come from and need to do (from a release, the developpment
source, testing or installing). Also the overall build system is not
simple, there is an intrinsic complexity that we can't really remove by
instructions (the whole autoconf/automake/gettext, with two translated
sets, and additionally some Makefile parts being generated).
It is not so clear to me what/if we need to add more information, people
testing from the development tree are very few, answering to questions
by mail could be more efficient than trying to document everything.
That being said, if you have specific ideas of changes to the files, do
not hesitate to propose, in particular in the form of patches.
>
In general there is also a need to run
./autogen.sh
in the source thee before going into the build directory.
>
> % mkdir build
> % cd build
> % srcdir/configure [options] [target]
> % make
> % make install
> % cp srcdir/doc/texinfo.tex workdir
>
> Where workdir is the directory of your main Texinfo input file.
>
>
>
>
> > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:53 PM
> > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> >
> > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:46:44PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:30 PM
> > > > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:22:34PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:17 PM
> > > > > > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > > > > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > > > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > > > > I done the whole thing again, however the version is still showing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > > > > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > > > > ls -lrt /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > > > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246 Dec 4 19:09 /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > > > > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > > > > ls -lrt
> > > > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 hagbard hagbard 380722 Dec 4 18:03 texinfo.tex
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can look at the beginning of the file to check that it is indeed
> > > > > > the latest one. If it is not used, it would be very strange.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see texinfo.tex is saying
> > > > > \def\texinfoversion{2020-10-24.12}
> > > >
> > > > Then it is not the one from git, the one from git has
> > > > \def\texinfoversion{2020-11-14.10}
> > >
> > > I did a git clone. Where do you put the file? Apologies, but I cannot
> > > determine
> > > where texinfo.tex is located.
> >
> > It is in texinfo/doc/texinfo.tex
> >
> > --
> > Pat
> >
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
Fantastic. Things age working now. texinfo.tex is mentioned in the README
file.
There are three files README, INSTALL, INSTALL.generic. When reading them,
they continue
referring around between themselves.
Can there be just one README (otherwise have just one INSTALL file) with
abbreviated
set of instructions of typical installation, at the beginning?
Thank you both for bearing with me. But it was not so clear and quick
about what exactly one should do when trying development versions.
% mkdir build
% cd build
% srcdir/configure [options] [target]
% make
% make install
% cp srcdir/doc/texinfo.tex workdir
Where workdir is the directory of your main Texinfo input file.
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:53 PM
> From: "Patrice Dumas"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
>
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:46:44PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:30 PM
> > > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:22:34PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:17 PM
> > > > > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > > > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > > > I done the whole thing again, however the version is still showing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > > > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > > > ls -lrt /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246 Dec 4 19:09 /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > > > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > > > ls -lrt
> > > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 hagbard hagbard 380722 Dec 4 18:03 texinfo.tex
> > > > >
> > > > > You can look at the beginning of the file to check that it is indeed
> > > > > the latest one. If it is not used, it would be very strange.
> > > >
> > > > I see texinfo.tex is saying
> > > > \def\texinfoversion{2020-10-24.12}
> > >
> > > Then it is not the one from git, the one from git has
> > > \def\texinfoversion{2020-11-14.10}
> >
> > I did a git clone. Where do you put the file? Apologies, but I cannot
> > determine
> > where texinfo.tex is located.
>
> It is in texinfo/doc/texinfo.tex
>
> --
> Pat
>
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:56 PM > From: "Patrice Dumas" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:37:56PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > > > That could be it. I got that from the website where it says > > "latest texinfo.tex macro file" > > This location is indeed used to do releases of texinfo.tex before the > whole texinfo package release, but it is still in general not as fresh > as the git file, especially when the changes are still being tested. > Understood. It would be extremely helpful to users trying to test or check the development version to put a remark about /doc/texinfo.tex in the section "Getting a Copy of the Git Repository". https://savannah.gnu.org/git/?group=texinfo > -- > Pat > >
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:37:56PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > That could be it. I got that from the website where it says > "latest texinfo.tex macro file" This location is indeed used to do releases of texinfo.tex before the whole texinfo package release, but it is still in general not as fresh as the git file, especially when the changes are still being tested. -- Pat
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:46:44PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > I did a git clone. Where do you put the file? Apologies, but I cannot > determine > where texinfo.tex is located. It is at doc/texinfo.tex in the git repository.
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:46:44PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:30 PM
> > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> >
> > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:22:34PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:17 PM
> > > > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > > I done the whole thing again, however the version is still showing
> > > > >
> > > > > Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]
> > > > >
> > > > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > > ls -lrt /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246 Dec 4 19:09 /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > > ls -lrt
> > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 hagbard hagbard 380722 Dec 4 18:03 texinfo.tex
> > > >
> > > > You can look at the beginning of the file to check that it is indeed
> > > > the latest one. If it is not used, it would be very strange.
> > >
> > > I see texinfo.tex is saying
> > > \def\texinfoversion{2020-10-24.12}
> >
> > Then it is not the one from git, the one from git has
> > \def\texinfoversion{2020-11-14.10}
>
> I did a git clone. Where do you put the file? Apologies, but I cannot
> determine
> where texinfo.tex is located.
It is in texinfo/doc/texinfo.tex
--
Pat
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:30 PM
> From: "Patrice Dumas"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
>
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:22:34PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> >
> > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:17 PM
> > > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > I done the whole thing again, however the version is still showing
> > > >
> > > > Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]
> > > >
> > > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > ls -lrt /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246 Dec 4 19:09 /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > >
> > > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > ls -lrt
> > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 hagbard hagbard 380722 Dec 4 18:03 texinfo.tex
> > >
> > > You can look at the beginning of the file to check that it is indeed
> > > the latest one. If it is not used, it would be very strange.
> >
> > I see texinfo.tex is saying
> > \def\texinfoversion{2020-10-24.12}
>
> Then it is not the one from git, the one from git has
> \def\texinfoversion{2020-11-14.10}
I did a git clone. Where do you put the file? Apologies, but I cannot
determine
where texinfo.tex is located.
> > hagbard@fuckup:
> > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > kpsewhich --expand-var='$TEXINPUTS'
> > .:{/home/hagbard/.texmf-config,/home/hagbard/.texmf-var,/home/hagbard/texmf,/etc/texmf,!!/var/lib/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist}/tex/{kpsewhich,generic,}//
>
> You have the standard path.
>
> --
> Pat
>
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:30 PM
> From: "Patrice Dumas"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:22:34PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> >
> > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:17 PM
> > > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > I done the whole thing again, however the version is still showing
> > > >
> > > > Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]
> > > >
> > > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > ls -lrt /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246 Dec 4 19:09 /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > >
> > > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > ls -lrt
> > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 hagbard hagbard 380722 Dec 4 18:03 texinfo.tex
> > >
> > > You can look at the beginning of the file to check that it is indeed
> > > the latest one. If it is not used, it would be very strange.
> >
> > I see texinfo.tex is saying
> > \def\texinfoversion{2020-10-24.12}
>
> Then it is not the one from git, the one from git has
> \def\texinfoversion{2020-11-14.10}
That could be it. I got that from the website where it says
"latest texinfo.tex macro file"
> > hagbard@fuckup:
> > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > kpsewhich --expand-var='$TEXINPUTS'
> > .:{/home/hagbard/.texmf-config,/home/hagbard/.texmf-var,/home/hagbard/texmf,/etc/texmf,!!/var/lib/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist}/tex/{kpsewhich,generic,}//
>
> You have the standard path.
>
> --
> Pat
>
>
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> I done the whole thing again, however the version is still showing
>
> Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]
>
> hagbard@fuckup:
> + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> ls -lrt /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246 Dec 4 19:09 /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
>
> hagbard@fuckup:
> + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> ls -lrt
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 hagbard hagbard 380722 Dec 4 18:03 texinfo.tex
You can look at the beginning of the file to check that it is indeed
the latest one. If it is not used, it would be very strange.
An alternative possibility, but I doubt it a bit is if you have a non
standard paths setting for TeX.
I think that you can check your path with
kpsewhich -show-path=tex
or
kpsewhich --expand-var='$TEXINPUTS'
>
>
>
> > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 6:28 PM
> > From: "Gavin Smith"
> > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> >
> > You have to copy texinfo.tex manually to where it will be used.
> > Running "make install" is not enough.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 5:13 PM Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > >
> > > Have just re-downloaded the file and put in the directory
> > > ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > (where the file resides) from where I run texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi
> > >
> > > To install the new version I ran gendocs.sh, then the usual configure etc.
> > >
> > > I can see that the programs were updated in /usr/local/bin/
> > >
> > > Problem remains
> > > C*
> > >
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 5:45 PM
> > > > From: "Gavin Smith"
> > > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > > Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup?
> > > > > Have
> > > > > also got the latest texinfo.tex
> > > > >
> > > > > @set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
> > > > > @image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > > > @image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > > >
> > > > > First call to @image works, the second fails.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I tried @image with @value with an absolute directory
> > > > name, and it worked. What output are you getting from TeX? Are you
> > > > sure the latest texinfo.tex is being read?
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:22:34PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
>
> > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:17 PM
> > From: "Patrice Dumas"
> > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
> >
> > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > I done the whole thing again, however the version is still showing
> > >
> > > Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]
> > >
> > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > ls -lrt /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246 Dec 4 19:09 /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > >
> > > hagbard@fuckup:
> > > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > ls -lrt
> > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 hagbard hagbard 380722 Dec 4 18:03 texinfo.tex
> >
> > You can look at the beginning of the file to check that it is indeed
> > the latest one. If it is not used, it would be very strange.
>
> I see texinfo.tex is saying
> \def\texinfoversion{2020-10-24.12}
Then it is not the one from git, the one from git has
\def\texinfoversion{2020-11-14.10}
> hagbard@fuckup:
> + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> kpsewhich --expand-var='$TEXINPUTS'
> .:{/home/hagbard/.texmf-config,/home/hagbard/.texmf-var,/home/hagbard/texmf,/etc/texmf,!!/var/lib/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist}/tex/{kpsewhich,generic,}//
You have the standard path.
--
Pat
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 10:17 PM
> From: "Patrice Dumas"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "Gavin Smith" , "help-texinfo gnu"
>
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > I done the whole thing again, however the version is still showing
> >
> > Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]
> >
> > hagbard@fuckup:
> > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > ls -lrt /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246 Dec 4 19:09 /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> >
> > hagbard@fuckup:
> > + ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > ls -lrt
> > -rw-rw-r-- 1 hagbard hagbard 380722 Dec 4 18:03 texinfo.tex
>
> You can look at the beginning of the file to check that it is indeed
> the latest one. If it is not used, it would be very strange.
I see texinfo.tex is saying
\def\texinfoversion{2020-10-24.12}
> An alternative possibility, but I doubt it a bit is if you have a non
> standard paths setting for TeX.
>
> I think that you can check your path with
>
> kpsewhich -show-path=tex
hagbard@fuckup:
+ ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
kpsewhich -show-path=tex
.:/home/hagbard/.texmf-config/tex/kpsewhich//:/home/hagbard/.texmf-var/tex/kpsewhich//:/home/hagbard/texmf/tex/kpsewhich//:/etc/texmf/tex/kpsewhich//:!!/var/lib/texmf/tex/kpsewhich//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/kpsewhich//:!!/usr/share/texmf/tex/kpsewhich//:!!/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/kpsewhich//:/home/hagbard/.texmf-config/tex/generic//:/home/hagbard/.texmf-var/tex/generic//:/home/hagbard/texmf/tex/generic//:/etc/texmf/tex/generic//:!!/var/lib/texmf/tex/generic//:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/generic//:!!/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic//:!!/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic//:/home/hagbard/.texmf-config/tex///:/home/hagbard/.texmf-var/tex///:/home/hagbard/texmf/tex///:/etc/texmf/tex///:!!/var/lib/texmf/tex///:!!/usr/local/share/texmf/tex///:!!/usr/share/texmf/tex///:!!/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex///
> or
>
> kpsewhich --expand-var='$TEXINPUTS'
hagbard@fuckup:
+ ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
kpsewhich --expand-var='$TEXINPUTS'
.:{/home/hagbard/.texmf-config,/home/hagbard/.texmf-var,/home/hagbard/texmf,/etc/texmf,!!/var/lib/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist}/tex/{kpsewhich,generic,}//
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 6:28 PM
> > > From: "Gavin Smith"
> > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > >
> > > You have to copy texinfo.tex manually to where it will be used.
> > > Running "make install" is not enough.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 5:13 PM Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Have just re-downloaded the file and put in the directory
> > > > ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > > > (where the file resides) from where I run texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi
> > > >
> > > > To install the new version I ran gendocs.sh, then the usual configure
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > I can see that the programs were updated in /usr/local/bin/
> > > >
> > > > Problem remains
> > > > C*
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 5:45 PM
> > > > > From: "Gavin Smith"
> > > > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > > > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > > > Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup?
> > > > > > Have
> > > > > > also got the latest texinfo.tex
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
> > > > > > @image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > > > > @image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First call to @image works, the second fails.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I tried @image with @value with an absolute directory
> > > > > name, and it worked. What output are you getting from TeX? Are you
> > > > > sure the latest texinfo.tex is being read?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
I am still seeing version 2020-10-24.12 which you say is not the latest one Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12] Have removed the old version from synaptic, and re-installed the one I got from the git repositor, downloaded texinfo.tex, and put that in the directories where I have the .texi files. And the problem remains. How is it that the installation from git still shows version 2020-10-24.12? > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 8:51 PM > From: "Gavin Smith" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 08:49:55PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > Do you still think that the problem is with texinfo.tex? > > No, you just haven't installed the file properly. > > If you don't know where to copy the file, then putting it in the > same directory as your main Texinfo input file should work. >
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
I have tried that. Now I put the file in all directories where I have the all the texi files. Could you send me the file, so I can put the one you send. See what happens. > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 8:51 PM > From: "Gavin Smith" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 08:49:55PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > Do you still think that the problem is with texinfo.tex? > > No, you just haven't installed the file properly. > > If you don't know where to copy the file, then putting it in the > same directory as your main Texinfo input file should work. >
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
Do you still think that the problem is with texinfo.tex?
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 6:28 PM
> From: "Gavin Smith"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> You have to copy texinfo.tex manually to where it will be used.
> Running "make install" is not enough.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 5:13 PM Christopher Dimech wrote:
> >
> > Have just re-downloaded the file and put in the directory
> > ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > (where the file resides) from where I run texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi
> >
> > To install the new version I ran gendocs.sh, then the usual configure etc.
> >
> > I can see that the programs were updated in /usr/local/bin/
> >
> > Problem remains
> > C*
> >
> > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 5:45 PM
> > > From: "Gavin Smith"
> > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup?
> > > > Have
> > > > also got the latest texinfo.tex
> > > >
> > > > @set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
> > > > @image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > > @image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > >
> > > > First call to @image works, the second fails.
> > >
> > > Well, I tried @image with @value with an absolute directory
> > > name, and it worked. What output are you getting from TeX? Are you
> > > sure the latest texinfo.tex is being read?
> > >
> > >
>
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
I done the whole thing again, however the version is still showing
Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]
hagbard@fuckup:
+ ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
ls -lrt /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246 Dec 4 19:09 /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
hagbard@fuckup:
+ ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
ls -lrt
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hagbard hagbard 380722 Dec 4 18:03 texinfo.tex
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 6:28 PM
> From: "Gavin Smith"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> You have to copy texinfo.tex manually to where it will be used.
> Running "make install" is not enough.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 5:13 PM Christopher Dimech wrote:
> >
> > Have just re-downloaded the file and put in the directory
> > ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > (where the file resides) from where I run texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi
> >
> > To install the new version I ran gendocs.sh, then the usual configure etc.
> >
> > I can see that the programs were updated in /usr/local/bin/
> >
> > Problem remains
> > C*
> >
> > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 5:45 PM
> > > From: "Gavin Smith"
> > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup?
> > > > Have
> > > > also got the latest texinfo.tex
> > > >
> > > > @set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
> > > > @image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > > @image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > >
> > > > First call to @image works, the second fails.
> > >
> > > Well, I tried @image with @value with an absolute directory
> > > name, and it worked. What output are you getting from TeX? Are you
> > > sure the latest texinfo.tex is being read?
> > >
> > >
>
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 08:49:55PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > Do you still think that the problem is with texinfo.tex? No, you just haven't installed the file properly. If you don't know where to copy the file, then putting it in the same directory as your main Texinfo input file should work.
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
Do not usually run configure in the same directory.
I make a build directory, then run configure from there.
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 6:28 PM
> From: "Gavin Smith"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> You have to copy texinfo.tex manually to where it will be used.
> Running "make install" is not enough.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 5:13 PM Christopher Dimech wrote:
> >
> > Have just re-downloaded the file and put in the directory
> > ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > (where the file resides) from where I run texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi
> >
> > To install the new version I ran gendocs.sh, then the usual configure etc.
> >
> > I can see that the programs were updated in /usr/local/bin/
> >
> > Problem remains
> > C*
> >
> > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 5:45 PM
> > > From: "Gavin Smith"
> > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup?
> > > > Have
> > > > also got the latest texinfo.tex
> > > >
> > > > @set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
> > > > @image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > > @image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > >
> > > > First call to @image works, the second fails.
> > >
> > > Well, I tried @image with @value with an absolute directory
> > > name, and it worked. What output are you getting from TeX? Are you
> > > sure the latest texinfo.tex is being read?
> > >
> > >
>
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup? Have
> also got the latest texinfo.tex
>
> @set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
> @image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> @image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
>
> First call to @image works, the second fails.
Well, I tried @image with @value with an absolute directory
name, and it worked. What output are you getting from TeX? Are you
sure the latest texinfo.tex is being read?
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 05:57:41PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > Let me check again. Any hints on how to know which one is being used? > > texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.16 (TeX Live 2015/Debian) > (preloaded format=pdfetex) > restricted \write18 enabled. > entering extended mode > > (./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi (/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/03ch/texinfo.tex > Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]: pdf, fonts, markup, glyphs, It's this line here. The latest version is 2020-11-25.18.
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 6:28 PM
> From: "Gavin Smith"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> You have to copy texinfo.tex manually to where it will be used.
> Running "make install" is not enough.
Yes, I have done that. But you have said that I got texinfo [version
2020-10-24.12
using "git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/texinfo.git;.
Will install again, by doing another git clone.
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 5:13 PM Christopher Dimech wrote:
> >
> > Have just re-downloaded the file and put in the directory
> > ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> > (where the file resides) from where I run texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi
> >
> > To install the new version I ran gendocs.sh, then the usual configure etc.
> >
> > I can see that the programs were updated in /usr/local/bin/
> >
> > Problem remains
> > C*
> >
> > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 5:45 PM
> > > From: "Gavin Smith"
> > > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> > > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > > Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup?
> > > > Have
> > > > also got the latest texinfo.tex
> > > >
> > > > @set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
> > > > @image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > > @image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > >
> > > > First call to @image works, the second fails.
> > >
> > > Well, I tried @image with @value with an absolute directory
> > > name, and it worked. What output are you getting from TeX? Are you
> > > sure the latest texinfo.tex is being read?
> > >
> > >
>
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
You have to copy texinfo.tex manually to where it will be used.
Running "make install" is not enough.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 5:13 PM Christopher Dimech wrote:
>
> Have just re-downloaded the file and put in the directory ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
> (where the file resides) from where I run texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi
>
> To install the new version I ran gendocs.sh, then the usual configure etc.
>
> I can see that the programs were updated in /usr/local/bin/
>
> Problem remains
> C*
>
> > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 5:45 PM
> > From: "Gavin Smith"
> > To: "Christopher Dimech"
> > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup? Have
> > > also got the latest texinfo.tex
> > >
> > > @set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
> > > @image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > > @image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > >
> > > First call to @image works, the second fails.
> >
> > Well, I tried @image with @value with an absolute directory
> > name, and it worked. What output are you getting from TeX? Are you
> > sure the latest texinfo.tex is being read?
> >
> >
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
This is what I have used git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/texinfo.git > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 6:16 PM > From: "Gavin Smith" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" > Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 05:57:41PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > Let me check again. Any hints on how to know which one is being used? > > > > texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi > > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.16 (TeX Live 2015/Debian) > > (preloaded format=pdfetex) > > restricted \write18 enabled. > > entering extended mode > > > > (./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi (/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/03ch/texinfo.tex > > Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]: pdf, fonts, markup, glyphs, > > It's this line here. The latest version is 2020-11-25.18. >
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
Have just re-downloaded the file and put in the directory ~/01cuneus/tdr/03ch
(where the file resides) from where I run texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi
To install the new version I ran gendocs.sh, then the usual configure etc.
I can see that the programs were updated in /usr/local/bin/
Problem remains
C*
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 5:45 PM
> From: "Gavin Smith"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup? Have
> > also got the latest texinfo.tex
> >
> > @set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
> > @image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > @image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> >
> > First call to @image works, the second fails.
>
> Well, I tried @image with @value with an absolute directory
> name, and it worked. What output are you getting from TeX? Are you
> sure the latest texinfo.tex is being read?
>
>
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 5:45 PM
> From: "Gavin Smith"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
>
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup? Have
> > also got the latest texinfo.tex
> >
> > @set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
> > @image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> > @image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
> >
> > First call to @image works, the second fails.
>
> Well, I tried @image with @value with an absolute directory
> name, and it worked. What output are you getting from TeX? Are you
> sure the latest texinfo.tex is being read?
Let me check again. Any hints on how to know which one is being used?
texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.16 (TeX Live 2015/Debian)
(preloaded format=pdfetex)
restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi (/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/03ch/texinfo.tex
Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]: pdf, fonts, markup, glyphs,
page headings, tables, conditionals, indexing, sectioning, toc, environments,
defuns, macros, cross references, insertions,
(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/epsf/epsf.tex
This is `epsf.tex' v2.7.4 <14 February 2011>
) localization, formatting, and turning on texinfo input format.)
(../LibMacro/DocuSeg.mc.texi)
./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi:121: TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=500
0].
@makevalueexpandable ->@let @value
= @expandablevalue @catcode `@-=@other @c...
@value ->@begingroup @makevalueexpandable
@valuexxx
@makevalueexpandable ->@let @value
= @expandablevalue @catcode `@-=@other @c...
@value ->@begingroup @makevalueexpandable
@valuexxx
@makevalueexpandable ->@let @value
= @expandablevalue @catcode `@-=@other @c...
@value ->@begingroup @makevalueexpandable
@valuexxx
...
l.121 ...pter 3 Tuesday September 15@comma{} 2020}
./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi:121: ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file prod
uced!
Transcript written on 03aCh-Chmed-html.log.
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.16 (TeX Live 2015/Debian)
(preloaded format=pdfetex)
restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi (/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/03ch/texinfo.tex
Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]: pdf, fonts, markup, glyphs,
page headings, tables, conditionals, indexing, sectioning, toc, environments,
defuns, macros, cross references, insertions,
(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/epsf/epsf.tex
This is `epsf.tex' v2.7.4 <14 February 2011>
) localization, formatting, and turning on texinfo input format.)
(../LibMacro/DocuSeg.mc.texi)
./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi:121: TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=500
0].
@makevalueexpandable ->@let @value
= @expandablevalue @catcode `@-=@other @c...
@value ->@begingroup @makevalueexpandable
@valuexxx
@makevalueexpandable ->@let @value
= @expandablevalue @catcode `@-=@other @c...
@value ->@begingroup @makevalueexpandable
@valuexxx
@makevalueexpandable ->@let @value
= @expandablevalue @catcode `@-=@other @c...
@value ->@begingroup @makevalueexpandable
@valuexxx
...
l.121 ...pter 3 Tuesday September 15@comma{} 2020}
./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi:121: ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file prod
uced!
Transcript written on 03aCh-Chmed-html.log.
/usr/local/bin/texi2dvi: pdfetex exited with bad status, quitting.
Re: Latest Development Version - @image with @value
Using the following does not work for me. Do I require some setup? Have
also got the latest texinfo.tex
@set igmpath /home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed
@image{/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/ideogr/03bCh-Chmed/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
@image{@value{igmpath}/igc03-01-Sicl-CircAmRg.png}
First call to @image works, the second fails.
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 at 6:41 PM
> From: "Christopher Dimech"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu"
> Subject: Re: Latest Development Version - @macro line continuation
>
> It looks like I installed correctly though
>
> hagbard@fuckup:
> + ~
> which texi2pdf
> /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
>
> hagbard@fuckup:
> + ~
> ls -lrt /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1246 Dec 3 07:52 /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf
>
>
> -
> Christopher Dimech
> General Administrator - Naiad Informatics - GNU Project (Geocomputation)
> - Geophysical Simulation
> - Geological Subsurface Mapping
> - Disaster Preparedness and Mitigation
> - Natural Resource Exploration and Production
> - Free Software Advocacy
>
>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 at 6:28 PM
> > From: "Christopher Dimech"
> > To: "help-texinfo gnu"
> > Subject: Latest Development Version - @macro line continuation
> >
> > I have installed the latest development version but seeing an error.
> >
> > Perhaps I did not install it properly?
> >
> > --- Source Code
> >
> > @macro TdrPage{titl, titlCn, subtitl, subtitlCn, date}
> >
> > @title @sc{\titl\ @* \titlCn\}
> > @subtitle \subtitl\
> > @subtitle \subtitlCn\
> >
> > @center @strong{Text}
> > @center Text
> > @center \date\
> > @author Christopher Dimech
> > @iftex
> > @page
> > @insertcopying
> > @end iftex
> >
> > @end macro
> >
> > @TdrPage{Microseismic Analysis of the, Central Mediterranean Region,,,
> > Chapter 3 Tuesday September 15@comma{} 2020}
> >
> > Errors ---
> >
> > texi2pdf 03aCh-Chmed-html.texi
> > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.16 (TeX Live 2015/Debian)
> > (preloaded format=pdfetex)
> > restricted \write18 enabled.
> > entering extended mode
> >
> > (./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi (/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/03ch/texinfo.tex
> > Loading texinfo [version 2020-10-24.12]: pdf, fonts, markup, glyphs,
> > page headings, tables, conditionals, indexing, sectioning, toc,
> > environments,
> > defuns, macros, cross references, insertions,
> > (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/epsf/epsf.tex
> > This is `epsf.tex' v2.7.4 <14 February 2011>
> > ) localization, formatting, and turning on texinfo input format.)
> > (../LibMacro/DocuSeg.mc.texi)
> > Runaway argument?
> > {
> > ./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi:119: Paragraph ended before @trim@ was complete.
> >
> >@par
> > ^^M
> > Chapter 3 Tuesday September 15@comma {} 2020
> > @eatspaces ...@expandafter @trim@ @expandafter {#1
> >}
> > ... Tuesday September 15@comma {} 2020}
> > @unskip @hfil
> > @centersub ...enalty @fi @line {@kern @leftskip #1
> > @kern @rightskip }
> > @\center ...{@hfil @ignorespaces #1@unskip @hfil }
> > @let @centersub @relax
> > ...
> > l.119 Chapter 3 Tuesday September 15@comma{} 2020}
> >
> > ./03aCh-Chmed-html.texi:119: Extra }, or forgotten @endgroup.
> > @centersub ...@kern @leftskip #1@kern @rightskip }
> >
> > @\center ...{@hfil @ignorespaces #1@unskip @hfil }
> > @let @centersub @relax
> > l.25 Chapter 3 Tuesday September 15@comma{} 2020}
> >
> > @scanmacro ...@eatspaces }@scantokens {#1@comment}
> >
> > l.119 Chapter 3 Tuesday September 15@comma{} 2020}
> >
> > [1{/var/lib/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}] [2]
> > (/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/03ch/03aCh-Chmed-html.toc) [-1]
> > (/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/03ch/03aCh-Chmed-html.toc)
> > (/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/03ch/03aCh-Chmed-html.toc) (History)
> > (/home/hagbard/01cuneus/tdr/03ch/03aCh-Chmed-html.aux)
> > Overfull \hbox (4.44653pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 8--8
> > @texttt Copyright:[]|
> >
> > Overfull \hbox (4.44653pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 7--7
> > @texttt Copyright:[]|
> > (3 @ Microseismic Analysis of the Central Mediterranean Region) [-2] [1] )
> > (see the transcript file for additional information)pdfTeX warning (dest):
> > name
> > {ii} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one
> >
> > > hare/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/public/amsfonts/cm/cmbx12.pfb> > exlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/public/amsfonts/cm/cmcsc10.pfb> > e/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/public/amsfonts/cm/cmmi10.pfb> > f-dist/fonts/type1/public/amsfonts/cm/cmmi12.pfb> > /fonts/type1/public/amsfonts/cm/cmr10.pfb> > type1/public/amsfonts/cm/cmsl10.pfb> > public/amsfonts/cm/cmtt10.pfb>
> > Output written on 03aCh-Chmed-html.pdf (5 pages,
