Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files

2020-10-17 Thread Christopher Dimech
The solution is to use this declaration in Emacs Init files
for info.

(setq Info-hide-note-references 'hide)

"hide" is not in the Manual, but shows up when doing

"M-x describe-variable  Info-hide-note-references"

Shall update the documentation. Would be worthwhile to
add a few words about this alto in the Texinfo Manual.
There could be a section: "Viewing Info Files in Emacs",
with some details.  I could write something.


> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 at 10:23 PM
> From: "Gavin Smith" 
> To: "Christopher Dimech" 
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" 
> Subject: Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:18:55PM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > It does not make a difference what value you put (t, nil, other). One 
> > either gets "see"
> > or *note.
> >  
> > You don't see any problem with texinfo right, but a problem with Emacs. 
> > Correct?
> >  
> 
> Yes.
>



Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files

2020-10-16 Thread Christopher Dimech


Have sent an bug-report to the Emacs group. Keep awesome.

Regards
Christopher

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> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 at 10:23 PM
> From: "Gavin Smith" 
> To: "Christopher Dimech" 
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" 
> Subject: Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:18:55PM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > It does not make a difference what value you put (t, nil, other). One 
> > either gets "see"
> > or *note.
> >  
> > You don't see any problem with texinfo right, but a problem with Emacs. 
> > Correct?
> >  
> 
> Yes.
>



Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files

2020-10-16 Thread Gavin Smith
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:18:55PM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> It does not make a difference what value you put (t, nil, other). One either 
> gets "see"
> or *note.
>  
> You don't see any problem with texinfo right, but a problem with Emacs. 
> Correct?
>  

Yes.



Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files

2020-10-16 Thread Christopher Dimech



 
It does not make a difference what value you put (t, nil, other). One either 
gets "see"
or *note.
 
You don't see any problem with texinfo right, but a problem with Emacs. Correct?
 
Regards
C*
 

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 at 9:54 PM
From: "Gavin Smith" 
To: "Christopher Dimech" 
Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" 
Subject: Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files
You could check the Emacs documentation of Info-hide-note-references.

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/info/Emacs-Info-Variables.html

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 8:52 PM Christopher Dimech  wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Gavin,
>
> Fine. Still, the problem should not occur. Is it a problem with Texinfo or 
> Emacs?
> What could fix the problem? Have read the comment but does not provide clear
> details. To me anyway.
>
> Regards
> Christopher
>
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 at 9:35 PM
> From: "Gavin Smith" 
> To: "Christopher Dimech" 
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" 
> Subject: Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 06:06:23PM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > I am writing a manual using makeinfo
> >
> > I have written the following
> >
> > @macro Gela-Menu
> > @paragraphindent 0
> > @* * @ref{Modifier-Keys}:: Modifier Keys on Lisp Machine Keyboards.
> > @* * @ref{Key-Mnemonics}:: Mnemonics that identify specific keys.
> > @paragraphindent 3
> > @end macro
> >
> > This was to add a Menu at the end of sections, so that users can continue
> > using the manual without having to go to the top of the buffer.
> >
> > But I have noticed that the output is as follows even though @ref is not 
> > supposed
> > so generate the "see" string when loading the info file.
> >
> > * see Modifier-Keys:: Modifier Keys on Lisp Machine Keyboards.
> > * see Key-Mnemonics:: Mnemonics that identify specific keys.
> >
> > This also happens when @ref is not put in a @macro. And same "see" effect 
> > when
> > put in @table as well.
> >
> > Regards
> > C*
>
> This has been asked so many times that I've written a whole new FAQ about
> it, to which I refer you ;-)
>
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/texinfo.git/commit/?id=35f4537b19697a448d4aa36389e6f1f736905281[https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/texinfo.git/commit/?id=35f4537b19697a448d4aa36389e6f1f736905281]



Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files

2020-10-16 Thread Gavin Smith
You could check the Emacs documentation of Info-hide-note-references.

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/info/Emacs-Info-Variables.html

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 8:52 PM Christopher Dimech  wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Gavin,
>
> Fine. Still, the problem should not occur.  Is it a problem with Texinfo or 
> Emacs?
> What could fix the problem? Have read the comment but does not provide clear
> details. To me anyway.
>
> Regards
> Christopher
>
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 at 9:35 PM
> From: "Gavin Smith" 
> To: "Christopher Dimech" 
> Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" 
> Subject: Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 06:06:23PM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > I am writing a manual using makeinfo
> >
> > I have written the following
> >
> > @macro Gela-Menu
> > @paragraphindent 0
> > @* * @ref{Modifier-Keys}::  Modifier Keys on Lisp Machine Keyboards.
> > @* * @ref{Key-Mnemonics}::  Mnemonics that identify specific keys.
> > @paragraphindent 3
> > @end macro
> >
> > This was to add a Menu at the end of sections, so that users can continue
> > using the manual without having to go to the top of the buffer.
> >
> > But I have noticed that the output is as follows even though @ref is not 
> > supposed
> > so generate the "see" string when loading the info file.
> >
> > * see Modifier-Keys:: Modifier Keys on Lisp Machine Keyboards.
> > * see Key-Mnemonics:: Mnemonics that identify specific keys.
> >
> > This also happens when @ref is not put in a @macro. And same "see" effect 
> > when
> > put in @table as well.
> >
> > Regards
> > C*
>
> This has been asked so many times that I've written a whole new FAQ about
> it, to which I refer you ;-)
>
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/texinfo.git/commit/?id=35f4537b19697a448d4aa36389e6f1f736905281



Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files

2020-10-16 Thread Christopher Dimech



 
Apologies, Gavin,
 
Fine. Still, the problem should not occur.  Is it a problem with Texinfo or 
Emacs?
What could fix the problem? Have read the comment but does not provide clear
details. To me anyway.
 
Regards
Christopher
 

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 at 9:35 PM
From: "Gavin Smith" 
To: "Christopher Dimech" 
Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" 
Subject: Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 06:06:23PM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> I am writing a manual using makeinfo
>  
> I have written the following
>  
> @macro Gela-Menu
> @paragraphindent 0
> @* * @ref{Modifier-Keys}::  Modifier Keys on Lisp Machine Keyboards.
> @* * @ref{Key-Mnemonics}::  Mnemonics that identify specific keys.
> @paragraphindent 3
> @end macro
>  
> This was to add a Menu at the end of sections, so that users can continue
> using the manual without having to go to the top of the buffer.
>
> But I have noticed that the output is as follows even though @ref is not 
> supposed
> so generate the "see" string when loading the info file.
>
> * see Modifier-Keys:: Modifier Keys on Lisp Machine Keyboards.
> * see Key-Mnemonics:: Mnemonics that identify specific keys.
>
> This also happens when @ref is not put in a @macro. And same "see" effect when
> put in @table as well.
>
> Regards
> C*

This has been asked so many times that I've written a whole new FAQ about
it, to which I refer you ;-)

https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/texinfo.git/commit/?id=35f4537b19697a448d4aa36389e6f1f736905281



Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files

2020-10-16 Thread Christopher Dimech

 

Hi, Gavin,

 

Fine. Still, the problem should not occur.  Is it a problem with Texinfo or Emacs?

What could fix the problem? Have read the comment but does not provide clear

details. To me anyway.

 

Regards

Christopher

 

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 at 9:35 PM
From: "Gavin Smith" 
To: "Christopher Dimech" 
Cc: "help-texinfo gnu" 
Subject: Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 06:06:23PM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> I am writing a manual using makeinfo
>  
> I have written the following
>  
> @macro Gela-Menu
> @paragraphindent 0
> @* * @ref{Modifier-Keys}::  Modifier Keys on Lisp Machine Keyboards.
> @* * @ref{Key-Mnemonics}::  Mnemonics that identify specific keys.
> @paragraphindent 3
> @end macro
>  
> This was to add a Menu at the end of sections, so that users can continue
> using the manual without having to go to the top of the buffer.
>
> But I have noticed that the output is as follows even though @ref is not supposed
> so generate the "see" string when loading the info file.
>
> * see Modifier-Keys:: Modifier Keys on Lisp Machine Keyboards.
> * see Key-Mnemonics:: Mnemonics that identify specific keys.
>
> This also happens when @ref is not put in a @macro. And same "see" effect when
> put in @table as well.
>
> Regards
> C*

This has been asked so many times that I've written a whole new FAQ about
it, to which I refer you ;-)

https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/texinfo.git/commit/?id=35f4537b19697a448d4aa36389e6f1f736905281






Re: @ref displays "see" strings in info files

2020-10-16 Thread Gavin Smith
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 06:06:23PM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> I am writing a manual using makeinfo
>  
> I have written the following
>  
> @macro Gela-Menu
> @paragraphindent 0
> @* * @ref{Modifier-Keys}::  Modifier Keys on Lisp Machine Keyboards.
> @* * @ref{Key-Mnemonics}::  Mnemonics that identify specific keys.
> @paragraphindent 3
> @end macro
>  
> This was to add a Menu at the end of sections, so that users can continue
> using the manual without having to go to the top of the buffer.
> 
> But I have noticed that the output is as follows even though @ref is not 
> supposed
> so generate the "see" string when loading the info file. 
> 
> * see Modifier-Keys:: Modifier Keys on Lisp Machine Keyboards.
> * see Key-Mnemonics:: Mnemonics that identify specific keys.
> 
> This also happens when @ref is not put in a @macro. And same "see" effect when
> put in @table as well.
> 
> Regards
> C*

This has been asked so many times that I've written a whole new FAQ about
it, to which I refer you ;-)

https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/texinfo.git/commit/?id=35f4537b19697a448d4aa36389e6f1f736905281