Re: European clients hosted on Heroku?
I just read about this at the Swedish Data Inspection that handles these issues here in Sweden. It clearly states that it IS okay to transfer data to 3rd countries if it is approved by the user registering. So... I guess you can just put information about this in the Terms Conditions at sign up. But maybe that's just in Sweden... Regards Linus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/heroku/-/MiqKlR3Zer8J. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en.
Re: European clients hosted on Heroku?
I cannot remember the specifics of the EU directive off hand as to whether or just applies to storage of the data or whether it's not pertaining to the storage AND communication of the data (just like PCI for instance). If it's just storage, bear in mind that you don't have to use the Heroku databases if you don't want to. You could use anything which is hosted directly on EC2 (as Amazon IS Safe Harbor certified). You've Amazon RDS (If you're not bothered by MySQL), you've got many AMI's out there featuring Postgres, and I dare say some other options too. Obviously this doesn't help you if you want to stick everything onto the Heroku platform, but it does mean that you have options which doesn't stop you from using the slick Heroku deployment and management - it's the data that cannot make use of the Heroku platform. I know Heroku are still working on Safe Harbor ceritfication, but it isn't a small thing and will take time. Neil On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Rich Aston r...@futuremill.co.uk wrote: We hit exactly this problem. The legal advice we got was explicit: EU companies can not host any personal data with Heroku as it stands. There are two potential solutions: 1. Heroku could sign up to Safe Harbor. 2. They could offer EU based servers. When I spoke to them about this last year they were hoping to be signed up to Safe Harbor by the end of 2011, but they missed this and I've been given no new date that they are aiming for. In the end we had to move to Engine Yard (who are both Safe Harbor compliant and offer EU servers) and this is working out pretty well for us. But we would love the option to come back to Heroku. Rich On Dec 18 2011, 12:06 pm, Nicola Brisotto nicolabriso...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Do you have any news on this topic? When Heroku will become members of Safe Harbor? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en. -- Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en.
Re: European clients hosted on Heroku?
No Neil, all the contractors involved have to be members of Safe Harbor. The support told me they are working hard on this matter. Unfortunately there is no way to get a date, so I still don't know if I can wait or have to move elsewhere (Engine Yard seems to be a reasonable choice with their entry package). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/heroku/-/5P8R-5JyVlYJ. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en.
Re: European clients hosted on Heroku?
I was of the understanding that as Heroku is on EC2, and Amazon *are*members of the Safe Harbor agreement, that all was well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/heroku/-/zOKKJK3H_r8J. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en.
European clients hosted on Heroku?
Hi. I've just had an exchange with the support saying that there is no way to introduce special contract clauses required by law (this document, in English: http://www.cnil.fr/fileadmin/documents/Vos_responsabilites/Transferts/CCT-2010-Ss_Traitants_VE.pdf). Also, Heroku is not a member (yet) of the Safe Harbor program, which is the second way that authorizes data transfert between Europe and the United States. That means all European clients that host their data on Heroku does not have the legal right to do it (without an intervention of Heroku). I know that plenty of European companpies are using Heroku. So are they all doing it illegally? Has an agreement found between them and Heroku? Thank you for those who can enlighten me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/heroku/-/4KCX0AyleqYJ. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en.
Re: European clients hosted on Heroku?
Just to be clear it concerns all European countries that host personal data on Heroku (people identity, emails, etc.). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/heroku/-/OM1Csbf7W7cJ. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en.
Re: European clients hosted on Heroku?
Thanks for the information, Michel. I certainly didn't know about this or even worried it could be a problem. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Michel Pigassou dag...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear it concerns all European countries that host personal data on Heroku (people identity, emails, etc.). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/heroku/-/OM1Csbf7W7cJ. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en.
