Re: amazon simple email service + heroku

2011-02-07 Thread Dan Croak
Amazon has now removed the email address verification requirement of the
Reply-To header. Sweet!

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Dan Croak dcr...@thoughtbot.com wrote:

 The only problem we've seen so far is not being able to use the Reply-To
 header because THAT email address must be verified:

 https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=220892

 That's the typical pattern where your app always sends email (never on
 behalf of another user), but you set the sending user's email to the
 Reply-To header so the receiver can just reply normally.

 We decided to remove the Reply-To feature for now.

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Dan Croak dcr...@thoughtbot.com wrote:

 That doesn't appear to be true once you've moved out of their sandbox and
 into the production environment. I just tested this a few seconds ago,
 sending an email via Amazon SES from a Rails app to an email that has never
 received an SES email before.

 The user received only the email from my app, no opt-in email from Amazon.

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Miles Smith mi...@vimae.com wrote:

 I've tried SES and it has an extremely crippling requirement:

 Every email must opt-in to recieve an email from SES. If you attempt to
 authorize an email account, Amazon sends out a very non-descriptive, cryptic
 (for normal users) message that states that Amazon SES would like to send
 email to you. It doesn't say anything about my app, nor did I find any way
 of modifying the message that's sent.

 Still not ready to replace my current email solution with them for that.
 :(

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Tim Fletcher m...@tfletcher.com wrote:

  2) Any sign of a Ruby library?
  Currently only .NET, Java and PHP wrappers.

 Yes, there's one here:
https://github.com/drewblas/aws-ses

 This might help if you're using Rails 3:

 http://robots.thoughtbot.com/post/3105121049/delivering-email-with-amazon-ses-in-a-rails-3-app

 Cheers,
 Tim

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Re: amazon simple email service + heroku

2011-02-04 Thread Tim Fletcher
 2) Any sign of a Ruby library?
 Currently only .NET, Java and PHP wrappers.

Yes, there's one here:
https://github.com/drewblas/aws-ses

This might help if you're using Rails 3:

http://robots.thoughtbot.com/post/3105121049/delivering-email-with-amazon-ses-in-a-rails-3-app

Cheers,
Tim

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Re: amazon simple email service + heroku

2011-02-04 Thread Miles Smith
I've tried SES and it has an extremely crippling requirement:

Every email must opt-in to recieve an email from SES. If you attempt to
authorize an email account, Amazon sends out a very non-descriptive, cryptic
(for normal users) message that states that Amazon SES would like to send
email to you. It doesn't say anything about my app, nor did I find any way
of modifying the message that's sent.

Still not ready to replace my current email solution with them for that. :(

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Tim Fletcher m...@tfletcher.com wrote:

  2) Any sign of a Ruby library?
  Currently only .NET, Java and PHP wrappers.

 Yes, there's one here:
https://github.com/drewblas/aws-ses

 This might help if you're using Rails 3:

 http://robots.thoughtbot.com/post/3105121049/delivering-email-with-amazon-ses-in-a-rails-3-app

 Cheers,
 Tim

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Re: amazon simple email service + heroku

2011-02-04 Thread Dan Croak
The only problem we've seen so far is not being able to use the Reply-To
header because THAT email address must be verified:

https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=220892

That's the typical pattern where your app always sends email (never on
behalf of another user), but you set the sending user's email to the
Reply-To header so the receiver can just reply normally.

We decided to remove the Reply-To feature for now.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Dan Croak dcr...@thoughtbot.com wrote:

 That doesn't appear to be true once you've moved out of their sandbox and
 into the production environment. I just tested this a few seconds ago,
 sending an email via Amazon SES from a Rails app to an email that has never
 received an SES email before.

 The user received only the email from my app, no opt-in email from Amazon.

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Miles Smith mi...@vimae.com wrote:

 I've tried SES and it has an extremely crippling requirement:

 Every email must opt-in to recieve an email from SES. If you attempt to
 authorize an email account, Amazon sends out a very non-descriptive, cryptic
 (for normal users) message that states that Amazon SES would like to send
 email to you. It doesn't say anything about my app, nor did I find any way
 of modifying the message that's sent.

 Still not ready to replace my current email solution with them for that.
 :(

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Tim Fletcher m...@tfletcher.com wrote:

  2) Any sign of a Ruby library?
  Currently only .NET, Java and PHP wrappers.

 Yes, there's one here:
https://github.com/drewblas/aws-ses

 This might help if you're using Rails 3:

 http://robots.thoughtbot.com/post/3105121049/delivering-email-with-amazon-ses-in-a-rails-3-app

 Cheers,
 Tim

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Re: amazon simple email service + heroku

2011-02-04 Thread Miles Smith


How does one remove themselves from the sandbox?

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Dan Croak dcr...@thoughtbot.com wrote:

 That doesn't appear to be true once you've moved out of their sandbox and
 into the production environment. I just tested this a few seconds ago,
 sending an email via Amazon SES from a Rails app to an email that has never
 received an SES email before.

 The user received only the email from my app, no opt-in email from Amazon.

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Miles Smith mi...@vimae.com wrote:

 I've tried SES and it has an extremely crippling requirement:

 Every email must opt-in to recieve an email from SES. If you attempt to
 authorize an email account, Amazon sends out a very non-descriptive, cryptic
 (for normal users) message that states that Amazon SES would like to send
 email to you. It doesn't say anything about my app, nor did I find any way
 of modifying the message that's sent.

 Still not ready to replace my current email solution with them for that.
 :(

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Tim Fletcher m...@tfletcher.com wrote:

  2) Any sign of a Ruby library?
  Currently only .NET, Java and PHP wrappers.

 Yes, there's one here:
https://github.com/drewblas/aws-ses

 This might help if you're using Rails 3:

 http://robots.thoughtbot.com/post/3105121049/delivering-email-with-amazon-ses-in-a-rails-3-app

 Cheers,
 Tim

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Re: amazon simple email service + heroku

2011-02-04 Thread Dan Croak
Instructions for requesting production access are here:

http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/index.html?InitialSetup.Customer.html

About three minutes after we submitted the form requesting access, an actual
human from Amazon called us to verify. By the time we hung up the phone, we
had production access.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Miles Smith mi...@vimae.com wrote:

 

 How does one remove themselves from the sandbox?

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Dan Croak dcr...@thoughtbot.com wrote:

 That doesn't appear to be true once you've moved out of their sandbox and
 into the production environment. I just tested this a few seconds ago,
 sending an email via Amazon SES from a Rails app to an email that has never
 received an SES email before.

 The user received only the email from my app, no opt-in email from Amazon.

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Miles Smith mi...@vimae.com wrote:

 I've tried SES and it has an extremely crippling requirement:

 Every email must opt-in to recieve an email from SES. If you attempt to
 authorize an email account, Amazon sends out a very non-descriptive, cryptic
 (for normal users) message that states that Amazon SES would like to send
 email to you. It doesn't say anything about my app, nor did I find any way
 of modifying the message that's sent.

 Still not ready to replace my current email solution with them for that.
 :(

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Tim Fletcher m...@tfletcher.com wrote:

  2) Any sign of a Ruby library?
  Currently only .NET, Java and PHP wrappers.

 Yes, there's one here:
https://github.com/drewblas/aws-ses

 This might help if you're using Rails 3:

 http://robots.thoughtbot.com/post/3105121049/delivering-email-with-amazon-ses-in-a-rails-3-app

 Cheers,
 Tim

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