Thoughts about this Forum
I'm NOT complaining. I've just been thinking this, and wonder if I am alone, or are there others who think/feel the same way or have solutions/suggestions I'm happy for Heroku to get an influx of new users on the Cedar stack. Really, I am. It is well-deserved, and even an exciting step to become a polyglot platform. Developers using other languages deserve a platform like Heroku - probably need it even more than Ruby developers. However, I am a traditional Heroku user - Rails on Bamboo. This forum has taught me a lot, about Heroku and Rails, and some Ruby. I've tried to answer questions here and there, and help build this community. I used to read every single post. This forum has changed now. Messages about Rake files, or missing Gems, or a other issues I can learn from or care about appear less and less, and the discussion seems more about language-specific issues. I could be wrong - haven't checked the stats or anything, but I do know this - I delete most messages from this forum in my inbox now. They are about topics that don't impact me, and I cannot contribute to. Please, new users, don't be offended, your posts help the Heroku community, we all understand that, and this is, indeed the place to ask them. Post away. But asre bamboo users posting elsewhere, like Stack Overflow? Or is it just that Cedar is new, and its users are new, and therefore they have more questions? Am I being too picky? Please respond and tell me so! Or prehaps have I become a LANGUAGE SNOB - Ruby or Death! Maybe I should just unsubscribe? Does anybody else share these feelings? If so, any suggestions for the group? Does the google group need to be segmented by platform? By language? How would this impact Heroku, who spends time patrolling this forum and answers questions (Thanks a bunch for that)? Please tell me what you think - even if it's a cheerful Shut up and delete. jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en.
Re: Thoughts about this Forum
Not sure I understand all your post here. I use Cedar stack because I have a new-this-year rails app, which means RAILS 3.2, which means you need cedar (asset pipeline and all). Or so the docs led me to believe. I actually had not even noticed the other language posts; but now that I look back they are starting to build up. (In fact I didn't know Heroku had extended!) Maybe there needs to be a custom where you prepend the subject with [SCALA] or [FACEBOOK]? e On Mar 15, 10:42 am, Jeff Schmitz jeffrey.j.schm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm NOT complaining. I've just been thinking this, and wonder if I am alone, or are there others who think/feel the same way or have solutions/suggestions I'm happy for Heroku to get an influx of new users on the Cedar stack. Really, I am. It is well-deserved, and even an exciting step to become a polyglot platform. Developers using other languages deserve a platform like Heroku - probably need it even more than Ruby developers. However, I am a traditional Heroku user - Rails on Bamboo. This forum has taught me a lot, about Heroku and Rails, and some Ruby. I've tried to answer questions here and there, and help build this community. I used to read every single post. This forum has changed now. Messages about Rake files, or missing Gems, or a other issues I can learn from or care about appear less and less, and the discussion seems more about language-specific issues. I could be wrong - haven't checked the stats or anything, but I do know this - I delete most messages from this forum in my inbox now. They are about topics that don't impact me, and I cannot contribute to. Please, new users, don't be offended, your posts help the Heroku community, we all understand that, and this is, indeed the place to ask them. Post away. But asre bamboo users posting elsewhere, like Stack Overflow? Or is it just that Cedar is new, and its users are new, and therefore they have more questions? Am I being too picky? Please respond and tell me so! Or prehaps have I become a LANGUAGE SNOB - Ruby or Death! Maybe I should just unsubscribe? Does anybody else share these feelings? If so, any suggestions for the group? Does the google group need to be segmented by platform? By language? How would this impact Heroku, who spends time patrolling this forum and answers questions (Thanks a bunch for that)? Please tell me what you think - even if it's a cheerful Shut up and delete. jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Heroku group. To post to this group, send email to heroku@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to heroku+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en.
Re: Thoughts about this Forum
Maybe its time to separate this group in to multiple mailing lists???
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Ed Jones ed.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure I understand all your post here.
I use Cedar stack because I have a new-this-year rails app, which
means RAILS 3.2, which means you need cedar (asset pipeline and all).
Or so the docs led me to believe.
I actually had not even noticed the other language posts; but now that
I look back they are starting to build up. (In fact I didn't know
Heroku had extended!)
Maybe there needs to be a custom where you prepend the subject with
[SCALA] or [FACEBOOK]?
e
On Mar 15, 10:42 am, Jeff Schmitz jeffrey.j.schm...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm NOT complaining.
I've just been thinking this, and wonder if I am alone, or are there
others
who think/feel the same way or have solutions/suggestions
I'm happy for Heroku to get an influx of new users on the Cedar stack.
Really, I am. It is well-deserved, and even an exciting step to become
a
polyglot platform. Developers using other languages deserve a platform
like Heroku - probably need it even more than Ruby developers.
However, I am a traditional Heroku user - Rails on Bamboo. This forum
has
taught me a lot, about Heroku and Rails, and some Ruby. I've tried to
answer questions here and there, and help build this community. I used
to
read every single post.
This forum has changed now. Messages about Rake files, or missing Gems,
or
a other issues I can learn from or care about appear less and less, and
the
discussion seems more about language-specific issues. I could be wrong -
haven't checked the stats or anything, but I do know this -
I delete most messages from this forum in my inbox now. They are about
topics that don't impact me, and I cannot contribute to. Please, new
users, don't be offended, your posts help the Heroku community, we all
understand that, and this is, indeed the place to ask them. Post away.
But asre bamboo users posting elsewhere, like Stack Overflow?
Or is it just that Cedar is new, and its users are new, and therefore
they
have more questions?
Am I being too picky? Please respond and tell me so!
Or prehaps have I become a LANGUAGE SNOB - Ruby or Death!
Maybe I should just unsubscribe?
Does anybody else share these feelings? If so, any suggestions for the
group?
Does the google group need to be segmented by platform? By language? How
would this impact Heroku, who spends time patrolling this forum and
answers
questions (Thanks a bunch for that)?
Please tell me what you think - even if it's a cheerful Shut up and
delete.
jeff
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Re: Thoughts about this Forum
Personally, I think one list works. Whilst there's some stuff that is getting
more language specific, all of the questions are talking about the same
underlying platform, and are therefore relevant to all to some extent.
However, both here and on stackoverflow there are a lot of issues which are
code specific, but only manifest themselves when running on Heroku hence the
posting here (it's now a 'Heroku problem').
There's loads of issues (mainly on stackoverflow) that could be solved with
simply testing your application in production mode locally first before
pushing. As people push then discover the issue, it get's the 'Heroku problem'
tag. I daren't guess what the Heroku support guys have to deal with here, it
can only be ten times worse.
For the what it's worth, most of the conversations I've seen on here should
stay.
Neil
On Thursday, 15 March 2012 at 15:18, Tharnid wrote:
Maybe its time to separate this group in to multiple mailing lists???
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Ed Jones ed.jo...@gmail.com
(mailto:ed.jo...@gmail.com) wrote:
Not sure I understand all your post here.
I use Cedar stack because I have a new-this-year rails app, which
means RAILS 3.2, which means you need cedar (asset pipeline and all).
Or so the docs led me to believe.
I actually had not even noticed the other language posts; but now that
I look back they are starting to build up. (In fact I didn't know
Heroku had extended!)
Maybe there needs to be a custom where you prepend the subject with
[SCALA] or [FACEBOOK]?
e
On Mar 15, 10:42 am, Jeff Schmitz jeffrey.j.schm...@gmail.com
(mailto:jeffrey.j.schm...@gmail.com) wrote:
I'm NOT complaining.
I've just been thinking this, and wonder if I am alone, or are there
others
who think/feel the same way or have solutions/suggestions
I'm happy for Heroku to get an influx of new users on the Cedar stack.
Really, I am. It is well-deserved, and even an exciting step to become a
polyglot platform. Developers using other languages deserve a platform
like Heroku - probably need it even more than Ruby developers.
However, I am a traditional Heroku user - Rails on Bamboo. This forum has
taught me a lot, about Heroku and Rails, and some Ruby. I've tried to
answer questions here and there, and help build this community. I used to
read every single post.
This forum has changed now. Messages about Rake files, or missing Gems,
or
a other issues I can learn from or care about appear less and less, and
the
discussion seems more about language-specific issues. I could be wrong -
haven't checked the stats or anything, but I do know this -
I delete most messages from this forum in my inbox now. They are about
topics that don't impact me, and I cannot contribute to. Please, new
users, don't be offended, your posts help the Heroku community, we all
understand that, and this is, indeed the place to ask them. Post away.
But asre bamboo users posting elsewhere, like Stack Overflow?
Or is it just that Cedar is new, and its users are new, and therefore they
have more questions?
Am I being too picky? Please respond and tell me so!
Or prehaps have I become a LANGUAGE SNOB - Ruby or Death!
Maybe I should just unsubscribe?
Does anybody else share these feelings? If so, any suggestions for the
group?
Does the google group need to be segmented by platform? By language? How
would this impact Heroku, who spends time patrolling this forum and
answers
questions (Thanks a bunch for that)?
Please tell me what you think - even if it's a cheerful Shut up and
delete.
jeff
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Re: Thoughts about this Forum
Thanks everyone.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Neil Middleton
neil.middle...@gmail.comwrote:
Personally, I think one list works. Whilst there's some stuff that is
getting more language specific, all of the questions are talking about the
same underlying platform, and are therefore relevant to all to some extent.
However, both here and on stackoverflow there are a lot of issues which
are code specific, but only manifest themselves when running on Heroku
hence the posting here (it's now a 'Heroku problem').
There's loads of issues (mainly on stackoverflow) that could be solved
with simply testing your application in production mode locally first
before pushing. As people push then discover the issue, it get's the
'Heroku problem' tag. I daren't guess what the Heroku support guys have to
deal with here, it can only be ten times worse.
For the what it's worth, most of the conversations I've seen on here
should stay.
Neil
On Thursday, 15 March 2012 at 15:18, Tharnid wrote:
Maybe its time to separate this group in to multiple mailing lists???
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Ed Jones ed.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure I understand all your post here.
I use Cedar stack because I have a new-this-year rails app, which
means RAILS 3.2, which means you need cedar (asset pipeline and all).
Or so the docs led me to believe.
I actually had not even noticed the other language posts; but now that
I look back they are starting to build up. (In fact I didn't know
Heroku had extended!)
Maybe there needs to be a custom where you prepend the subject with
[SCALA] or [FACEBOOK]?
e
On Mar 15, 10:42 am, Jeff Schmitz jeffrey.j.schm...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm NOT complaining.
I've just been thinking this, and wonder if I am alone, or are there
others
who think/feel the same way or have solutions/suggestions
I'm happy for Heroku to get an influx of new users on the Cedar stack.
Really, I am. It is well-deserved, and even an exciting step to become
a
polyglot platform. Developers using other languages deserve a platform
like Heroku - probably need it even more than Ruby developers.
However, I am a traditional Heroku user - Rails on Bamboo. This forum
has
taught me a lot, about Heroku and Rails, and some Ruby. I've tried to
answer questions here and there, and help build this community. I used
to
read every single post.
This forum has changed now. Messages about Rake files, or missing Gems,
or
a other issues I can learn from or care about appear less and less, and
the
discussion seems more about language-specific issues. I could be wrong -
haven't checked the stats or anything, but I do know this -
I delete most messages from this forum in my inbox now. They are about
topics that don't impact me, and I cannot contribute to. Please, new
users, don't be offended, your posts help the Heroku community, we all
understand that, and this is, indeed the place to ask them. Post away.
But asre bamboo users posting elsewhere, like Stack Overflow?
Or is it just that Cedar is new, and its users are new, and therefore
they
have more questions?
Am I being too picky? Please respond and tell me so!
Or prehaps have I become a LANGUAGE SNOB - Ruby or Death!
Maybe I should just unsubscribe?
Does anybody else share these feelings? If so, any suggestions for the
group?
Does the google group need to be segmented by platform? By language? How
would this impact Heroku, who spends time patrolling this forum and
answers
questions (Thanks a bunch for that)?
Please tell me what you think - even if it's a cheerful Shut up and
delete.
jeff
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