Re: [hibernate-dev] Trouble announcing Hibernate ORM 5.0.6.Final

[Sanne Grinovero]

Thanks for the release Gail!
I did the Twitter announce; I'll leave the G+ task to someone familiar
with that.

(BTW we us twitter @Hibernate, not @hibernate-dev for announcements)
Did you have any issue with doing these?

Regarding the blog: it would be nice to mention which version was released ;)

Thanks,
Sanne

On 17 December 2015 at 06:02, Gail Badner  wrote:
> I could not announce on twitter @hibernate_dev or on Google+. Could someone
> please add those announcements please?
>
> Thanks,
> Gail
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Infinispan versions for Hibernate OGM

[Radim Vansa]

On 12/16/2015 10:41 PM, Gunnar Morling wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there an actual need for 8.1 at this point (so does it provide
> features we really need in OGM?) or is this more a general/theoretical
> proposal?
>
> I like the idea in general, but we must carefully think through all
> the implications, such as what module slot to depend on in the OGM
> dialect and so on. I suppose the alias stuff may come in handy here.

I think that the most important part is being independent, than choosing 
the 'right' version. Infinispan 8.0 brought a few regressions 
performance-wise, and developers are actively working on fixing those 
(not sure how much of the effort landed in 8.1). 8.2 could bring quite 
interesting scalability (in terms of concurrently processed requests) 
improvements.

>
> Question on Remote: can the 8.0 libs in WF talk to a 8.1 remote?

Old HotRod client can always talk to new HotRod server. New HotRod 
client may require configuration setting (limiting certain features) in 
order to talk to old server.
In library=embedded mode, compatibility of different version in the same 
cluster is *not* guaranteed even for micro releases.

Radim

>
> All in all, if there is a strong benefit for going to the latest ISPN
> right now, let's do it, otherwise I'd prefer if we sticked for now to
> what's provided and focused on getting the remote dialect fly. Let's
> life out the module obsession once we actually gain something from it
> ;)
>
> --Gunnar
>
>
>
> 2015-12-16 14:04 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero :
>> Hello all,
>>
>> we generally have been trying to target the versions of Infinispan
>> provided by the WildFly version we're targeting for compatibility with
>> a specific OGM release cycle.
>>
>> I would like to change that, and for example now switch to the latest
>> Infinispan 8.1.0.Final (rather than the one in WildFly 10 candidate
>> release, which would be 8.0.2.Final).
>>
>> Several reasons:
>>
>> # shall not use the WildFly Infinispan distribution
>>in WildFly the specific Infinispan version being integrated is an
>> implementation detail.
>> People wanting to use Infinispan directly, or for other means than the
>> ones addressed by the WildFly clustering features which are based on
>> Infinispan (but don't expose it), should be encouraged to download the
>> Infinispan modules from the Infinispan project. We should apply (and
>> encourage) this practice too.
>>
>> # pick our own version
>>it's obviously nicer for us to reserve ourselves the practical
>> benefits of being able to pick our own version according to needs,
>> rather than stick with wathever WildFly requires.
>>
>> # we might have a need for latest Infinispan
>>probably no need to explain ;)
>> I don't with us to wait for an app-server update cycle when we need an
>> upstream patch.
>>
>> # don't aim at a single WildFly version
>>while we're currently running integration tests with latest WildFly,
>> I think it's desirable to use that as a testing bed for the modules we
>> provide but not as a coupling factor for our dependency matrix.
>> In other words, let's prepare OGM to be able to produce modules for
>> different versions of the application servers (and not least other
>> application servers although that's unrelated).
>> Not least, the fact that the app server is sticking with some version
>> shouldn't have an impact to all of our users who have no interest in
>> this particular appserver at all.
>>
>> Am I missing any important counter argument?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sanne
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Forum changes proposal

[Hardy Ferentschik]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 01:06:14PM +, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> FYI...
> http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/312708/stackoverflow-teams-sign-up

Interesting. 

--Hardy



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Re: [hibernate-dev] Forum changes proposal

[Steve Ebersole]

FYI...
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/312708/stackoverflow-teams-sign-up


On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 3:07 PM Steve Ebersole  wrote:

> I just sent the request.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 12:26 PM Sanne Grinovero 
> wrote:
>
>> On 10 December 2015 at 17:48, Steve Ebersole  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 11:43 AM Sanne Grinovero 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 10 December 2015 at 15:24, Steve Ebersole 
>> wrote:
>> >> > BTW, there is already a hibernate-users mailing list hosted on the
>> JBoss
>> >> > Mailman instance.  Back when we moved to JBoss Mailman they used to
>> set
>> >> > up a
>> >> > number of lists by default.  We just chose to not really use this
>> one in
>> >> > particular.  We could use this one for purpose discussed here.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, that would be nice. I'm registered on that list, and there have
>> >> been questions already although they are extremely rare - I recall
>> >> something like 3 a year? - probably because I don't think its
>> >> existance was ever advertised.
>> >
>> >
>> > Not sure.  Mailman is not great at showing "list statistics".  Actually
>> it
>> > kind of sucks as an archive (not searchable, segmented, etc).
>> >
>> > http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/hibernate-users/
>> >
>> >
>> >> > BTW, I looked into creating a Hibernate SO Team.  Are we thinking one
>> >> > team?
>> >> > Or one per project (ORM, OGM, etc)?
>> >>
>> >> Depends on how it works? I do monitor various tags, including
>> >> "hibernate", "hibernate-search", "hibernate-ogm" and sometimes do a
>> >> cross-check query like "hibernate" + "lucene", although others on our
>> >> team often arrive first to answer.
>> >>
>> >> If the intent of the feature is to distribute the load among people to
>> >> answer and monitor such tags, then I guess you're not interested in
>> >> being notified for the Lucene related ones?
>> >>
>> >> From what I understand here:
>> >>  -
>> >>
>> http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/307513/the-power-of-teams-a-proposed-expansion-of-stack-overflow
>> >>
>> >> It looks like it's more about showing off our affiliation, and to
>> >> create a space were people can ask questions "about the team".
>> >> So I'd say a single team unless I misunderstood things.
>> >
>> >
>> > That would be my vote as well: one team
>>
>> Let's start with one then!
>> If future features warrant a more fine-grained approach for some
>> practicality reasons, we'll consider making sub-groups as an addition,
>> but I guess in terms of community it makes sense to build up a single
>> strong brand.
>>
>> Will you set it up?
>>
>
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Lucene 5.4 available: include it in a micro release?

[Andrej Golovnin]

Hi Sanne,

> On 17.12.2015, at 17:11, Sanne Grinovero  wrote:
> 
> Ok that was probably a foolish idea, especially like I'm realising
> there wouldn't be a version range available like Guillaume Smet
> suggests for people needing Lucene 5.3 but with additional fixes from
> us.
> 
> Guillaume: still, this Lucene version could have equally been a
> "micro"- if you except that Boost method set which is quite surprising
> they removed them without even a single deprecation iteration.

The methods Query.setBoost() and Query.getBoost() were not removed.
They are marked as deprecated. Please read the JavaDocs
(http://lucene.apache.org/core/5_4_0/core/org/apache/lucene/search/Query.html)
and/or source code.

> Andrej: are you needing that upgrade soon? Any interesting reasons?

I don’t need it soon. And I’m just interested in performance improvements.

Best regards,
Andrej Golovnin
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Trouble announcing Hibernate ORM 5.0.6.Final

[Gail Badner]

I had no problem logging onto @hibernate. I saw Vlad's tweet there already,
so didn't explicitly send a tweet from there.

Thanks for mentioning about the version number. I edited the blog to
explicitly state the version number.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Sanne Grinovero 
wrote:

> Thanks for the release Gail!
> I did the Twitter announce; I'll leave the G+ task to someone familiar
> with that.
>
> (BTW we us twitter @Hibernate, not @hibernate-dev for announcements)
> Did you have any issue with doing these?
>
> Regarding the blog: it would be nice to mention which version was released
> ;)
>
> Thanks,
> Sanne
>
> On 17 December 2015 at 06:02, Gail Badner  wrote:
> > I could not announce on twitter @hibernate_dev or on Google+. Could
> someone
> > please add those announcements please?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gail
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