Any consensus on this yet? On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:21 AM Sanne Grinovero <sa...@hibernate.org> wrote:
> Thanks for starting this! > > The choice of IRC is a bit special on the list as we never intended it > to be killed: it has been historically important and we should > maintain some level of reachability on it. So voting for the "IRC" > choice just means a preference to not use anything else on top of it, > while alternatively we'' be using X on top of IRC, albeit with a > preference to use X for team conversations. > > Also good to remind: please try to be on IRC as well occasionally as > many in the OSS community we integrate with will reach out there. > > Thanks, > Sanne > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 09:46, Yoann Rodiere <yo...@hibernate.org> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > TL;DR: please vote here if you don't want to end up having to use a chat > > tool you don't like: https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre > > > > HipChat Cloud will stop working on February 15th, 2019 [1]. We need to > > choose an alternative before we have our back against the wall, so I'll > try > > to resurrect the conversation. > > > > As a reminder, Stride is no longer an option: Atlassian cancelled the > > project, and encourages users to migrate to Slack. > > > > The discussed options so far were: > > > > - *Moving back to IRC*. Aye: ?; nay: ? > > Pros: simple as hell. > > Cons: basic as hell; we won't keep the chat history. > > - *Migrating to Slack* [6], as suggested by Atlassian [2]. Aye: > > Christian B; Nay: ? > > Pros: we will keep the chat history (I think). > > Cons: not open-source; desktop client consumes a lot of resources. > > - *Migrating to Zulip* [3]. Aye: Emmanuel, Yoann. Nay: Guillaume (kind > > of). > > Pros: Advanced conversation management thanks to the "topics" feature. > > Cons: Complex to use because of the "topics" feature; we won't keep > the > > chat history (1). > > - *Migrating to Gitter* [5] (we'll create different rooms, probably). > > Aye: ?, Nay: ? > > Pros: Users seem to actually go there, so we could have our "live > > support" rooms next to our "internal discussion" rooms. > > Cons: not open-source; we won't keep the chat history (1). > > > > I created a poll based on the discussion we had on the thread > > "[hibernate-dev] Stride". I think everyone had the time to suggest > another > > option. > > > > Please vote here and now, or remain silent forever ;): > > https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre > > > > I'd suggest the following rules: if there's a single clear winner (a > > platform that everyone would be happy with), we'll pick that one. If > there > > are multiple clear winners, whoever does the migration work will pick > > what's easier to set up (taking into account the various integrations). > > Otherwise, back to discussing it on this thread... > > > > (1) There seems to be some work in progress on a migration tool from > > HipChat to Zulip, but it doesn't seem to be ready yet [4] > > > > [1] > > > https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/faq#faq-da2b66a1-53d3-4c4e-a405-467d961336f7 > > [2] https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/migration > > [3] https://hibernate.zulipchat.com/ > > [4] https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/10647 > > [5] https://gitter.im/hibernate/hibernate-orm > > [6] https://slackdemo.com/ > > > > Yoann Rodière > > Hibernate NoORM Team > > yo...@hibernate.org > > _______________________________________________ > > hibernate-dev mailing list > > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > _______________________________________________ > hibernate-dev mailing list > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev