Re: [hibernate-dev] Disallow uncategorized topics

2018-05-22 Thread Yoann Rodiere 
Done: users must now choose a category, and may use "Miscellaneous" if
their topic really doesn't fit any category.

On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 11:48 Sanne Grinovero  wrote:

> On 22 May 2018 at 10:30, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
> > I can create a category named " " and force users to pick something
> > explicitly, but it will render poorly, especially on the home page.
>
> Just a joke. More seriously I was wondering if there was some way.
>
> > What's wrong with "Miscellaneous"? I can use another name if you want.
> > "Cannot categorize" or something like that. I can even try naming it
> > "Uncategorized", but there's already a "system" category with this name
> > (only enabled if we don't enforce categories), so I'm not sure if
> Discourse
> > will allow that.
>
> Nothing decidedly wrong with it. Just my last preference; IMO I'd
> prefer keeping things as they are, but no strong feeling.
>
> Thanks
>
> >
> > On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 11:22 Sanne Grinovero 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 22 May 2018 at 10:15, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
> >> > I counted at least 3 mis-categorized topics just this weekend, and
> >> > beyond
> >> > the notification we also have to categorize them ourselves.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately I can't "encourage" without enforcing a strict rule.
> >> > Discourse
> >> > only has an option to force people to chose a category, not an option
> to
> >> > make it more obvious that people should chose a category.
> >> > That's why I suggested the "Miscellaneous" category: they will be
> forced
> >> > to
> >> > pick a category, but if nothing fits they can always pick
> >> > "Miscellaneous".
> >> > Obviously I don't imagine that people will think "Miscellaneous" will
> >> > fit
> >> > their needs exactly, that's a last resort.
> >>
> >> Ah. What about a "" category ? Maybe that will encourage people to
> >> stop a second and think about it, yet have the option to go ahead?
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 11:06 Sanne Grinovero 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> +1 to encourage people to set a category
> >> >>
> >> >> but I wouldn't require strict rules, it's not like we're flooded with
> >> >> notifications?
> >> >>
> >> >> In particular, I see no value in a "Miscellaneous" category; it's not
> >> >> like people are going to think "cool, Miscellaneous is exactly what I
> >> >> was looking for".
> >> >>
> >> >> On 22 May 2018 at 09:43, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We've seen a few posts on discourse lately without any category.
> More
> >> >> > often
> >> >> > than not, these are about ORM (which makes sense since most posts
> are
> >> >> > about
> >> >> > ORM).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is a bit annoying since it makes it hard to configure
> Discourse
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > only receive notifications about topics we want to actively
> monitor.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Would anyone object to disallowing uncategorized topics? I can
> create
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > "Miscellaneous" category if you want, but I'd really like people to
> >> >> > pick
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > category when they create a topic.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Yoann Rodiere
> >> >> > yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
> >> >> > Software Engineer
> >> >> > Hibernate NoORM team
> >> >> > ___
> >> >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> >> > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
> >> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Yoann Rodiere
> >> > yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
> >> > Software Engineer
> >> > Hibernate NoORM team
> >
> > --
> > Yoann Rodiere
> > yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
> > Software Engineer
> > Hibernate NoORM team
>
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Disallow uncategorized topics

2018-05-22 Thread Sanne Grinovero 
On 22 May 2018 at 10:30, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
> I can create a category named " " and force users to pick something
> explicitly, but it will render poorly, especially on the home page.

Just a joke. More seriously I was wondering if there was some way.

> What's wrong with "Miscellaneous"? I can use another name if you want.
> "Cannot categorize" or something like that. I can even try naming it
> "Uncategorized", but there's already a "system" category with this name
> (only enabled if we don't enforce categories), so I'm not sure if Discourse
> will allow that.

Nothing decidedly wrong with it. Just my last preference; IMO I'd
prefer keeping things as they are, but no strong feeling.

Thanks

>
> On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 11:22 Sanne Grinovero  wrote:
>>
>> On 22 May 2018 at 10:15, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
>> > I counted at least 3 mis-categorized topics just this weekend, and
>> > beyond
>> > the notification we also have to categorize them ourselves.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately I can't "encourage" without enforcing a strict rule.
>> > Discourse
>> > only has an option to force people to chose a category, not an option to
>> > make it more obvious that people should chose a category.
>> > That's why I suggested the "Miscellaneous" category: they will be forced
>> > to
>> > pick a category, but if nothing fits they can always pick
>> > "Miscellaneous".
>> > Obviously I don't imagine that people will think "Miscellaneous" will
>> > fit
>> > their needs exactly, that's a last resort.
>>
>> Ah. What about a "" category ? Maybe that will encourage people to
>> stop a second and think about it, yet have the option to go ahead?
>>
>> >
>> > On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 11:06 Sanne Grinovero 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> +1 to encourage people to set a category
>> >>
>> >> but I wouldn't require strict rules, it's not like we're flooded with
>> >> notifications?
>> >>
>> >> In particular, I see no value in a "Miscellaneous" category; it's not
>> >> like people are going to think "cool, Miscellaneous is exactly what I
>> >> was looking for".
>> >>
>> >> On 22 May 2018 at 09:43, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > We've seen a few posts on discourse lately without any category. More
>> >> > often
>> >> > than not, these are about ORM (which makes sense since most posts are
>> >> > about
>> >> > ORM).
>> >> >
>> >> > This is a bit annoying since it makes it hard to configure Discourse
>> >> > to
>> >> > only receive notifications about topics we want to actively monitor.
>> >> >
>> >> > Would anyone object to disallowing uncategorized topics? I can create
>> >> > a
>> >> > "Miscellaneous" category if you want, but I'd really like people to
>> >> > pick
>> >> > a
>> >> > category when they create a topic.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Yoann Rodiere
>> >> > yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
>> >> > Software Engineer
>> >> > Hibernate NoORM team
>> >> > ___
>> >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> >> > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
>> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> >
>> > --
>> > Yoann Rodiere
>> > yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
>> > Software Engineer
>> > Hibernate NoORM team
>
> --
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Disallow uncategorized topics

2018-05-22 Thread Sanne Grinovero 
On 22 May 2018 at 10:15, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
> I counted at least 3 mis-categorized topics just this weekend, and beyond
> the notification we also have to categorize them ourselves.
>
> Unfortunately I can't "encourage" without enforcing a strict rule. Discourse
> only has an option to force people to chose a category, not an option to
> make it more obvious that people should chose a category.
> That's why I suggested the "Miscellaneous" category: they will be forced to
> pick a category, but if nothing fits they can always pick "Miscellaneous".
> Obviously I don't imagine that people will think "Miscellaneous" will fit
> their needs exactly, that's a last resort.

Ah. What about a "" category ? Maybe that will encourage people to
stop a second and think about it, yet have the option to go ahead?

>
> On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 11:06 Sanne Grinovero  wrote:
>>
>> +1 to encourage people to set a category
>>
>> but I wouldn't require strict rules, it's not like we're flooded with
>> notifications?
>>
>> In particular, I see no value in a "Miscellaneous" category; it's not
>> like people are going to think "cool, Miscellaneous is exactly what I
>> was looking for".
>>
>> On 22 May 2018 at 09:43, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We've seen a few posts on discourse lately without any category. More
>> > often
>> > than not, these are about ORM (which makes sense since most posts are
>> > about
>> > ORM).
>> >
>> > This is a bit annoying since it makes it hard to configure Discourse to
>> > only receive notifications about topics we want to actively monitor.
>> >
>> > Would anyone object to disallowing uncategorized topics? I can create a
>> > "Miscellaneous" category if you want, but I'd really like people to pick
>> > a
>> > category when they create a topic.
>> > --
>> > Yoann Rodiere
>> > yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
>> > Software Engineer
>> > Hibernate NoORM team
>> > ___
>> > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
> --
> Yoann Rodiere
> yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
> Software Engineer
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Disallow uncategorized topics

2018-05-22 Thread Yoann Rodiere 
I can create a category named " " and force users to pick something
explicitly, but it will render poorly, especially on the home page.

What's wrong with "Miscellaneous"? I can use another name if you want.
"Cannot categorize" or something like that. I can even try naming it
"Uncategorized", but there's already a "system" category with this name
(only enabled if we don't enforce categories), so I'm not sure if Discourse
will allow that.

On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 11:22 Sanne Grinovero  wrote:

> On 22 May 2018 at 10:15, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
> > I counted at least 3 mis-categorized topics just this weekend, and beyond
> > the notification we also have to categorize them ourselves.
> >
> > Unfortunately I can't "encourage" without enforcing a strict rule.
> Discourse
> > only has an option to force people to chose a category, not an option to
> > make it more obvious that people should chose a category.
> > That's why I suggested the "Miscellaneous" category: they will be forced
> to
> > pick a category, but if nothing fits they can always pick
> "Miscellaneous".
> > Obviously I don't imagine that people will think "Miscellaneous" will fit
> > their needs exactly, that's a last resort.
>
> Ah. What about a "" category ? Maybe that will encourage people to
> stop a second and think about it, yet have the option to go ahead?
>
> >
> > On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 11:06 Sanne Grinovero 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1 to encourage people to set a category
> >>
> >> but I wouldn't require strict rules, it's not like we're flooded with
> >> notifications?
> >>
> >> In particular, I see no value in a "Miscellaneous" category; it's not
> >> like people are going to think "cool, Miscellaneous is exactly what I
> >> was looking for".
> >>
> >> On 22 May 2018 at 09:43, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > We've seen a few posts on discourse lately without any category. More
> >> > often
> >> > than not, these are about ORM (which makes sense since most posts are
> >> > about
> >> > ORM).
> >> >
> >> > This is a bit annoying since it makes it hard to configure Discourse
> to
> >> > only receive notifications about topics we want to actively monitor.
> >> >
> >> > Would anyone object to disallowing uncategorized topics? I can create
> a
> >> > "Miscellaneous" category if you want, but I'd really like people to
> pick
> >> > a
> >> > category when they create a topic.
> >> > --
> >> > Yoann Rodiere
> >> > yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
> >> > Software Engineer
> >> > Hibernate NoORM team
> >> > ___
> >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >
> > --
> > Yoann Rodiere
> > yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
> > Software Engineer
> > Hibernate NoORM team
>
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Disallow uncategorized topics

2018-05-22 Thread Guillaume Smet 
Hi,

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:

> Would anyone object to disallowing uncategorized topics? I can create a
> "Miscellaneous" category if you want, but I'd really like people to pick a
> category when they create a topic.


Sure, let's do it if we can.

I don't think we need a Misc. category. I just categorized all the
uncategorized posts and they all fit somewhere.

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Re: [hibernate-dev] Disallow uncategorized topics

2018-05-22 Thread Yoann Rodiere 
I counted at least 3 mis-categorized topics just this weekend, and beyond
the notification we also have to categorize them ourselves.

Unfortunately I can't "encourage" without enforcing a strict rule.
Discourse only has an option to force people to chose a category, not an
option to make it more obvious that people should chose a category.
That's why I suggested the "Miscellaneous" category: they will be forced to
pick a category, but if nothing fits they can always pick "Miscellaneous".
Obviously I don't imagine that people will think "Miscellaneous" will fit
their needs exactly, that's a last resort.

On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 11:06 Sanne Grinovero  wrote:

> +1 to encourage people to set a category
>
> but I wouldn't require strict rules, it's not like we're flooded with
> notifications?
>
> In particular, I see no value in a "Miscellaneous" category; it's not
> like people are going to think "cool, Miscellaneous is exactly what I
> was looking for".
>
> On 22 May 2018 at 09:43, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We've seen a few posts on discourse lately without any category. More
> often
> > than not, these are about ORM (which makes sense since most posts are
> about
> > ORM).
> >
> > This is a bit annoying since it makes it hard to configure Discourse to
> > only receive notifications about topics we want to actively monitor.
> >
> > Would anyone object to disallowing uncategorized topics? I can create a
> > "Miscellaneous" category if you want, but I'd really like people to pick
> a
> > category when they create a topic.
> > --
> > Yoann Rodiere
> > yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
> > Software Engineer
> > Hibernate NoORM team
> > ___
> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
-- 
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Disallow uncategorized topics

2018-05-22 Thread Sanne Grinovero 
+1 to encourage people to set a category

but I wouldn't require strict rules, it's not like we're flooded with
notifications?

In particular, I see no value in a "Miscellaneous" category; it's not
like people are going to think "cool, Miscellaneous is exactly what I
was looking for".

On 22 May 2018 at 09:43, Yoann Rodiere  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We've seen a few posts on discourse lately without any category. More often
> than not, these are about ORM (which makes sense since most posts are about
> ORM).
>
> This is a bit annoying since it makes it hard to configure Discourse to
> only receive notifications about topics we want to actively monitor.
>
> Would anyone object to disallowing uncategorized topics? I can create a
> "Miscellaneous" category if you want, but I'd really like people to pick a
> category when they create a topic.
> --
> Yoann Rodiere
> yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
> Software Engineer
> Hibernate NoORM team
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[hibernate-dev] Disallow uncategorized topics

2018-05-22 Thread Yoann Rodiere 
Hi,

We've seen a few posts on discourse lately without any category. More often
than not, these are about ORM (which makes sense since most posts are about
ORM).

This is a bit annoying since it makes it hard to configure Discourse to
only receive notifications about topics we want to actively monitor.

Would anyone object to disallowing uncategorized topics? I can create a
"Miscellaneous" category if you want, but I'd really like people to pick a
category when they create a topic.
-- 
Yoann Rodiere
yo...@hibernate.org / yrodi...@redhat.com
Software Engineer
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