Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate support for JDBC drivers targeting multiple JVM versions

2018-03-13 Thread Bregler, Jonathan
I don’t have a specific link for the sharding feature. I just took a quick look 
at the JDBC 4.3 spec. The overview of changes lists the following changes 
regarding sharding:


  *   Added support for Sharding.
Sharding is a scaling technique in which data is horizontally partitioned 
across independent databases.


  *   Addition of the java.sql.ShardigKey interface
This interface is used to indicate that this object represents a Sharding Key. 
A ShardingKey instance is only guaranteed to be compatible with the data source 
instance that it was derived from.


  *   Addition of the java.sql.ShardingKeyBuilder interface

A builder created from a DataSource or XADataSource object, used to create a 
ShardingKey with sub-keys of supported data types.

Just for completeness, there are other new interfaces that cause similar 
problems:

  *   Addition of the java.sql.ConnectionBuilder interface

A builder created from a DataSource object, used to establish a connection to 
the database that the data source object represents.


  *   Addition of the javax.sql.XAConnectionBuilder interface

A builder created from a XADataSource object, used to establish a connection to 
the database that the data source object represents.


  *   Addition of the javax.sql.PooledConnectionBuilder interface

A builder created from a PooledConnectionDataSource object, used to establish a 
connection to the database that the data source object represents.

It looks like the HANA JDBC driver team will most likely go with multi-release 
JARs. If everything goes as planned we’ll also publish the driver on Maven 
Central soon.

- Jonathan

From: Steve Ebersole [mailto:st...@hibernate.org]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:21 PM
To: Bregler, Jonathan <jonathan.breg...@sap.com>
Cc: Sanne Grinovero <sa...@hibernate.org>; hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate support for JDBC drivers targeting 
multiple JVM versions

Out of curiosity, do you have a link to this new java.sql.ShardingKey feature?

Other than that, I agree with Sanne - multiple jars (with proper classifier 
once y'all publish your drivers) is the best option

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:35 AM Bregler, Jonathan 
<jonathan.breg...@sap.com<mailto:jonathan.breg...@sap.com>> wrote:
Hi Sanne,

Multi-release JARs sound promising. I'll forward your suggestion to the HANA 
JDBC driver team.

Thanks,
Jonathan

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[mailto:sanne.grinov...@gmail.com<mailto:sanne.grinov...@gmail.com>] On Behalf 
Of Sanne Grinovero
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 4:45 PM
To: Bregler, Jonathan 
<jonathan.breg...@sap.com<mailto:jonathan.breg...@sap.com>>
Cc: hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org<mailto:hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org>
Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate support for JDBC drivers targeting 
multiple JVM versions

Hi Jonathan,

personally this looks like an issue with the driver as class
initialization could be triggered by a number of things, it's going to
be hard to dodge them all, not least all containers and servers have
their own peculiarities in how they load and wrap drivers and
datasources; could you suggest the HANA JDBC team to release
multi-release jars?  That would be safer, and also avoid issues with
other tools beyond Hibernate ORM.
 - http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/238

Thanks,
Sanne

On 12 March 2018 at 15:27, Bregler, Jonathan 
<jonathan.breg...@sap.com<mailto:jonathan.breg...@sap.com>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> in a recent version of the HANA JDBC driver the new JDBC 4.3 features that 
> came with Java 9 have been implemented. The driver itself is still compiled 
> for Java 7 (javac -target 1.7). So the driver should also be usable with a 
> JVM 7 or 8. This works as expected until Java reflection is used to 
> determine, for example, the existence of a method on the connection class. 
> Hibernate uses this approach in 
> org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.DefaultSchemaNameResolver#determineAppropriateResolverDelegate
>  to determine if the connection class implements the #getSchema method. In 
> this case the JVM tries to load the entire connection class including the 
> non-existing new interface java.sql.ShardingKey. The result is a 
> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError being thrown which isn't caught anywhere 
> causing the Hibernate bootstrapping process to fail. I've attached a sample 
> stack trace to this mail.
>
> Situations like this can also occur in other places, for example, when 
> getting a connection from a Hikari connection pool.
>
> My question is now how you think Hibernate should handle situations like 
> this. Do you see it as a JDBC driver issue? Should Hibernate ignore the error 
> and continue with a conservative guess if possible (e.g. assume that the 
> connection class doesn't implement #getSchema)?
>
> Thanks,
>

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate support for JDBC drivers targeting multiple JVM versions

2018-03-13 Thread Steve Ebersole
Out of curiosity, do you have a link to this new java.sql.ShardingKey
feature?

Other than that, I agree with Sanne - multiple jars (with proper classifier
once y'all publish your drivers) is the best option

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:35 AM Bregler, Jonathan <jonathan.breg...@sap.com>
wrote:

> Hi Sanne,
>
> Multi-release JARs sound promising. I'll forward your suggestion to the
> HANA JDBC driver team.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sanne.grinov...@gmail.com [mailto:sanne.grinov...@gmail.com] On
> Behalf Of Sanne Grinovero
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 4:45 PM
> To: Bregler, Jonathan <jonathan.breg...@sap.com>
> Cc: hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate support for JDBC drivers targeting
> multiple JVM versions
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> personally this looks like an issue with the driver as class
> initialization could be triggered by a number of things, it's going to
> be hard to dodge them all, not least all containers and servers have
> their own peculiarities in how they load and wrap drivers and
> datasources; could you suggest the HANA JDBC team to release
> multi-release jars?  That would be safer, and also avoid issues with
> other tools beyond Hibernate ORM.
>  - http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/238
>
> Thanks,
> Sanne
>
> On 12 March 2018 at 15:27, Bregler, Jonathan <jonathan.breg...@sap.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > in a recent version of the HANA JDBC driver the new JDBC 4.3 features
> that came with Java 9 have been implemented. The driver itself is still
> compiled for Java 7 (javac -target 1.7). So the driver should also be
> usable with a JVM 7 or 8. This works as expected until Java reflection is
> used to determine, for example, the existence of a method on the connection
> class. Hibernate uses this approach in
> org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.DefaultSchemaNameResolver#determineAppropriateResolverDelegate
> to determine if the connection class implements the #getSchema method. In
> this case the JVM tries to load the entire connection class including the
> non-existing new interface java.sql.ShardingKey. The result is a
> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError being thrown which isn't caught anywhere
> causing the Hibernate bootstrapping process to fail. I've attached a sample
> stack trace to this mail.
> >
> > Situations like this can also occur in other places, for example, when
> getting a connection from a Hikari connection pool.
> >
> > My question is now how you think Hibernate should handle situations like
> this. Do you see it as a JDBC driver issue? Should Hibernate ignore the
> error and continue with a conservative guess if possible (e.g. assume that
> the connection class doesn't implement #getSchema)?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jonathan
> >
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate support for JDBC drivers targeting multiple JVM versions

2018-03-12 Thread Bregler, Jonathan
Hi Sanne,

Multi-release JARs sound promising. I'll forward your suggestion to the HANA 
JDBC driver team.

Thanks,
Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: sanne.grinov...@gmail.com [mailto:sanne.grinov...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
Sanne Grinovero
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 4:45 PM
To: Bregler, Jonathan <jonathan.breg...@sap.com>
Cc: hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate support for JDBC drivers targeting 
multiple JVM versions

Hi Jonathan,

personally this looks like an issue with the driver as class
initialization could be triggered by a number of things, it's going to
be hard to dodge them all, not least all containers and servers have
their own peculiarities in how they load and wrap drivers and
datasources; could you suggest the HANA JDBC team to release
multi-release jars?  That would be safer, and also avoid issues with
other tools beyond Hibernate ORM.
 - http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/238

Thanks,
Sanne

On 12 March 2018 at 15:27, Bregler, Jonathan <jonathan.breg...@sap.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> in a recent version of the HANA JDBC driver the new JDBC 4.3 features that 
> came with Java 9 have been implemented. The driver itself is still compiled 
> for Java 7 (javac -target 1.7). So the driver should also be usable with a 
> JVM 7 or 8. This works as expected until Java reflection is used to 
> determine, for example, the existence of a method on the connection class. 
> Hibernate uses this approach in 
> org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.DefaultSchemaNameResolver#determineAppropriateResolverDelegate
>  to determine if the connection class implements the #getSchema method. In 
> this case the JVM tries to load the entire connection class including the 
> non-existing new interface java.sql.ShardingKey. The result is a 
> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError being thrown which isn't caught anywhere 
> causing the Hibernate bootstrapping process to fail. I've attached a sample 
> stack trace to this mail.
>
> Situations like this can also occur in other places, for example, when 
> getting a connection from a Hikari connection pool.
>
> My question is now how you think Hibernate should handle situations like 
> this. Do you see it as a JDBC driver issue? Should Hibernate ignore the error 
> and continue with a conservative guess if possible (e.g. assume that the 
> connection class doesn't implement #getSchema)?
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate support for JDBC drivers targeting multiple JVM versions

2018-03-12 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Hi Jonathan,

personally this looks like an issue with the driver as class
initialization could be triggered by a number of things, it's going to
be hard to dodge them all, not least all containers and servers have
their own peculiarities in how they load and wrap drivers and
datasources; could you suggest the HANA JDBC team to release
multi-release jars?  That would be safer, and also avoid issues with
other tools beyond Hibernate ORM.
 - http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/238

Thanks,
Sanne

On 12 March 2018 at 15:27, Bregler, Jonathan  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> in a recent version of the HANA JDBC driver the new JDBC 4.3 features that 
> came with Java 9 have been implemented. The driver itself is still compiled 
> for Java 7 (javac -target 1.7). So the driver should also be usable with a 
> JVM 7 or 8. This works as expected until Java reflection is used to 
> determine, for example, the existence of a method on the connection class. 
> Hibernate uses this approach in 
> org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.DefaultSchemaNameResolver#determineAppropriateResolverDelegate
>  to determine if the connection class implements the #getSchema method. In 
> this case the JVM tries to load the entire connection class including the 
> non-existing new interface java.sql.ShardingKey. The result is a 
> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError being thrown which isn't caught anywhere 
> causing the Hibernate bootstrapping process to fail. I've attached a sample 
> stack trace to this mail.
>
> Situations like this can also occur in other places, for example, when 
> getting a connection from a Hikari connection pool.
>
> My question is now how you think Hibernate should handle situations like 
> this. Do you see it as a JDBC driver issue? Should Hibernate ignore the error 
> and continue with a conservative guess if possible (e.g. assume that the 
> connection class doesn't implement #getSchema)?
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
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[hibernate-dev] Hibernate support for JDBC drivers targeting multiple JVM versions

2018-03-12 Thread Bregler, Jonathan
Hi,

in a recent version of the HANA JDBC driver the new JDBC 4.3 features that came 
with Java 9 have been implemented. The driver itself is still compiled for Java 
7 (javac -target 1.7). So the driver should also be usable with a JVM 7 or 8. 
This works as expected until Java reflection is used to determine, for example, 
the existence of a method on the connection class. Hibernate uses this approach 
in 
org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.DefaultSchemaNameResolver#determineAppropriateResolverDelegate
 to determine if the connection class implements the #getSchema method. In this 
case the JVM tries to load the entire connection class including the 
non-existing new interface java.sql.ShardingKey. The result is a 
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError being thrown which isn't caught anywhere causing 
the Hibernate bootstrapping process to fail. I've attached a sample stack trace 
to this mail.

Situations like this can also occur in other places, for example, when getting 
a connection from a Hikari connection pool.

My question is now how you think Hibernate should handle situations like this. 
Do you see it as a JDBC driver issue? Should Hibernate ignore the error and 
continue with a conservative guess if possible (e.g. assume that the connection 
class doesn't implement #getSchema)?

Thanks,
Jonathan
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: java/sql/ShardingKey
at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredMethods0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.privateGetDeclaredMethods(Class.java:2701)
at java.lang.Class.privateGetMethodRecursive(Class.java:3048)
at java.lang.Class.getMethod0(Class.java:3018)
at java.lang.Class.privateGetMethodRecursive(Class.java:3058)
at java.lang.Class.getMethod0(Class.java:3018)
at java.lang.Class.getMethod(Class.java:1784)
at 
org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.DefaultSchemaNameResolver.determineAppropriateResolverDelegate(DefaultSchemaNameResolver.java:43)
at 
org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.DefaultSchemaNameResolver.resolveSchemaName(DefaultSchemaNameResolver.java:69)
at 
org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.JdbcEnvironmentImpl.determineCurrentSchemaName(JdbcEnvironmentImpl.java:298)
at 
org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.JdbcEnvironmentImpl.(JdbcEnvironmentImpl.java:232)
at 
org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.JdbcEnvironmentInitiator.initiateService(JdbcEnvironmentInitiator.java:114)
at 
org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.env.internal.JdbcEnvironmentInitiator.initiateService(JdbcEnvironmentInitiator.java:1)
at 
org.hibernate.boot.registry.internal.StandardServiceRegistryImpl.initiateService(StandardServiceRegistryImpl.java:88)
at 
org.hibernate.service.internal.AbstractServiceRegistryImpl.createService(AbstractServiceRegistryImpl.java:258)
at 
org.hibernate.service.internal.AbstractServiceRegistryImpl.initializeService(AbstractServiceRegistryImpl.java:232)
at 
org.hibernate.service.internal.AbstractServiceRegistryImpl.getService(AbstractServiceRegistryImpl.java:209)
at 
org.hibernate.engine.jdbc.internal.JdbcServicesImpl.configure(JdbcServicesImpl.java:51)
at 
org.hibernate.boot.registry.internal.StandardServiceRegistryImpl.configureService(StandardServiceRegistryImpl.java:94)
at 
org.hibernate.service.internal.AbstractServiceRegistryImpl.initializeService(AbstractServiceRegistryImpl.java:241)
at 
org.hibernate.service.internal.AbstractServiceRegistryImpl.getService(AbstractServiceRegistryImpl.java:209)
at 
org.hibernate.boot.model.process.spi.MetadataBuildingProcess.handleTypes(MetadataBuildingProcess.java:356)
at 
org.hibernate.boot.model.process.spi.MetadataBuildingProcess.complete(MetadataBuildingProcess.java:112)
at 
org.hibernate.jpa.boot.internal.EntityManagerFactoryBuilderImpl.metadata(EntityManagerFactoryBuilderImpl.java:861)
at 
org.hibernate.jpa.boot.internal.EntityManagerFactoryBuilderImpl.build(EntityManagerFactoryBuilderImpl.java:888)
at 
org.hibernate.jpa.test.BaseEntityManagerFunctionalTestCase.buildEntityManagerFactory(BaseEntityManagerFunctionalTestCase.java:78)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
at 
org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod$1.runReflectiveCall(FrameworkMethod.java:50)
at 
org.junit.internal.runners.model.ReflectiveCallable.run(ReflectiveCallable.java:12)
at 
org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod.invokeExplosively(FrameworkMethod.java:47)
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org.junit.internal.runners.statements.RunBefores.evaluate(RunBefores.java:24)
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org.junit.internal.runners.statements.RunAfters.evaluate(RunAfters.java:27)
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