Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM : format of the version logged on boot
On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:20, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>
> I tend to agree with Gail here. Sure Sanne I understand your view there, but
> realistically:
> 1) which other ORM jars do you see printing its version?
None, but I'm wondering if we wanted to improve on that.
> 2) when are you expecting that ORM jar versions can be mixed amongst the
> different modules?
I don't expect that to be "supported", but people might do it, so
having such logs could theoretically help us to spot a misalignment.
I have no strong opinion about this, I just felt more inclined to go
for the more conservative change - especially as I had not heard your
opinion yet: If you prefer to polish this further I have no
objections.
Thanks!
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:42 AM Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>>
>> Thanks all, I'll make the changes then:
>> - https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-13863
>>
>> Gail, answered to you below - sorry it took so long.
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 18:24, Gail Badner wrote:
>> >
>> > +1 to changing it.
>> >
>> > The name was changed from "core" to "ORM" some years back. Can "core" just
>> > be dropped now?
>>
>> I'd prefer keeping the qualifier as it's referring to the
>> "hibernate-core" jar, in the sense it's one jar among the various jars
>> in Hibernate ORM as a whole.
>>
>> The reason is that there's tooling coming to help spotting misaligned
>> jars, so say hibernate-core and hibernate-ehcache need to be at the
>> same version, as they both belong to Hibernate ORM as whole.
>> Essentially, we still need a way to identify the parts as they are
>> packaged into different jars, so the qualifier is still useful in some
>> contexts.
>>
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 6:20 AM Yoann Rodiere wrote:
>> >>
>> >> +1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yoann Rodière
>> >> Hibernate Team
>> >> yo...@hibernate.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 14:58, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It's minor cosmetics, but I'd like to change the format of the message
>> >> > we log on boot.
>> >> >
>> >> > Currently we have:
>> >> > INFO [org.hib.Version] HHH000412: Hibernate Core {5.4.11-SNAPSHOT}
>> >> >
>> >> > I would like to change it into:
>> >> >INFO [org.hib.Version] HHH000412: Hibernate ORM core version
>> >> > 5.4.11-SNAPSHOT
>> >> >
>> >> > in particular:
>> >> > - to remove the "{}" wrapping around the number
>> >> > - add "ORM"
>> >> > - lowercase "core" and add "version"
>> >> >
>> >> > Looks good? It would be more consistent with our own project
>> >> > naming/branding, and with the format of similar messages being logged
>> >> > by other popular libraries.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Sanne
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM : format of the version logged on boot
I tend to agree with Gail here. Sure Sanne I understand your view there,
but realistically:
1) which other ORM jars do you see printing its version?
2) when are you expecting that ORM jar versions can be mixed amongst the
different modules?
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:42 AM Sanne Grinovero
wrote:
> Thanks all, I'll make the changes then:
> - https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-13863
>
> Gail, answered to you below - sorry it took so long.
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 18:24, Gail Badner wrote:
> >
> > +1 to changing it.
> >
> > The name was changed from "core" to "ORM" some years back. Can "core"
> just be dropped now?
>
> I'd prefer keeping the qualifier as it's referring to the
> "hibernate-core" jar, in the sense it's one jar among the various jars
> in Hibernate ORM as a whole.
>
> The reason is that there's tooling coming to help spotting misaligned
> jars, so say hibernate-core and hibernate-ehcache need to be at the
> same version, as they both belong to Hibernate ORM as whole.
> Essentially, we still need a way to identify the parts as they are
> packaged into different jars, so the qualifier is still useful in some
> contexts.
>
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 6:20 AM Yoann Rodiere
> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >>
> >> Yoann Rodière
> >> Hibernate Team
> >> yo...@hibernate.org
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 14:58, Sanne Grinovero
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > It's minor cosmetics, but I'd like to change the format of the message
> >> > we log on boot.
> >> >
> >> > Currently we have:
> >> > INFO [org.hib.Version] HHH000412: Hibernate Core
> {5.4.11-SNAPSHOT}
> >> >
> >> > I would like to change it into:
> >> >INFO [org.hib.Version] HHH000412: Hibernate ORM core version
> >> > 5.4.11-SNAPSHOT
> >> >
> >> > in particular:
> >> > - to remove the "{}" wrapping around the number
> >> > - add "ORM"
> >> > - lowercase "core" and add "version"
> >> >
> >> > Looks good? It would be more consistent with our own project
> >> > naming/branding, and with the format of similar messages being logged
> >> > by other popular libraries.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Sanne
> >> > ___
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> >> > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM : format of the version logged on boot
Thanks all, I'll make the changes then:
- https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-13863
Gail, answered to you below - sorry it took so long.
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 18:24, Gail Badner wrote:
>
> +1 to changing it.
>
> The name was changed from "core" to "ORM" some years back. Can "core" just be
> dropped now?
I'd prefer keeping the qualifier as it's referring to the
"hibernate-core" jar, in the sense it's one jar among the various jars
in Hibernate ORM as a whole.
The reason is that there's tooling coming to help spotting misaligned
jars, so say hibernate-core and hibernate-ehcache need to be at the
same version, as they both belong to Hibernate ORM as whole.
Essentially, we still need a way to identify the parts as they are
packaged into different jars, so the qualifier is still useful in some
contexts.
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 6:20 AM Yoann Rodiere wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> Yoann Rodière
>> Hibernate Team
>> yo...@hibernate.org
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 14:58, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>>
>> > It's minor cosmetics, but I'd like to change the format of the message
>> > we log on boot.
>> >
>> > Currently we have:
>> > INFO [org.hib.Version] HHH000412: Hibernate Core {5.4.11-SNAPSHOT}
>> >
>> > I would like to change it into:
>> >INFO [org.hib.Version] HHH000412: Hibernate ORM core version
>> > 5.4.11-SNAPSHOT
>> >
>> > in particular:
>> > - to remove the "{}" wrapping around the number
>> > - add "ORM"
>> > - lowercase "core" and add "version"
>> >
>> > Looks good? It would be more consistent with our own project
>> > naming/branding, and with the format of similar messages being logged
>> > by other popular libraries.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Sanne
>> > ___
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>> > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> >
>> >
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM : format of the version logged on boot
+1 to changing it.
The name was changed from "core" to "ORM" some years back. Can "core" just
be dropped now?
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 6:20 AM Yoann Rodiere wrote:
> +1
>
>
> Yoann Rodière
> Hibernate Team
> yo...@hibernate.org
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 14:58, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>
> > It's minor cosmetics, but I'd like to change the format of the message
> > we log on boot.
> >
> > Currently we have:
> > INFO [org.hib.Version] HHH000412: Hibernate Core {5.4.11-SNAPSHOT}
> >
> > I would like to change it into:
> >INFO [org.hib.Version] HHH000412: Hibernate ORM core version
> > 5.4.11-SNAPSHOT
> >
> > in particular:
> > - to remove the "{}" wrapping around the number
> > - add "ORM"
> > - lowercase "core" and add "version"
> >
> > Looks good? It would be more consistent with our own project
> > naming/branding, and with the format of similar messages being logged
> > by other popular libraries.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sanne
> > ___
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> > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >
> >
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM : format of the version logged on boot
+1
Yoann Rodière
Hibernate Team
yo...@hibernate.org
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 14:58, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
> It's minor cosmetics, but I'd like to change the format of the message
> we log on boot.
>
> Currently we have:
> INFO [org.hib.Version] HHH000412: Hibernate Core {5.4.11-SNAPSHOT}
>
> I would like to change it into:
>INFO [org.hib.Version] HHH000412: Hibernate ORM core version
> 5.4.11-SNAPSHOT
>
> in particular:
> - to remove the "{}" wrapping around the number
> - add "ORM"
> - lowercase "core" and add "version"
>
> Looks good? It would be more consistent with our own project
> naming/branding, and with the format of similar messages being logged
> by other popular libraries.
>
> Thanks,
> Sanne
> ___
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>
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