[Hibernate] Hibernate Tools 3.0 alpha 4

2005-06-08 Thread Christian Bauer
The new updated version of the Hibernate Tools project includes  
significant updates to the Eclipse editors, plugings, and wizards, as  
well as a unified and convenient Ant task for integration of the  
tools in your regular builds. See the What's New overview or download  
directly.


http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/tools/newandnoteworthy/hibernate- 
eclipse-news-3.0.0.alpha4.html


http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? 
group_id=40712&package_id=141977





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Re: [Hibernate] Scope of Hibernate 3.1

2005-06-08 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen



As you all know, I am still just not sold on this.


Can you try and explain why not ? ;)

Keeping adding syntatic sugar to hql (like new list, new map) sounds
to rigid when it could be done pretty nicely with something like
the result transformer...and it allow users to do whatever they want
with the different items.

-max


-Original Message-
From: Max Andersen
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2005 3:15 PM
To: Gavin King; hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Scope of Hibernate 3.1


Adding the ResultTransformer or similar to native sql and hql
(http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-587)

Would complete the query result and entitymode possibilites.

-max


I've put some thought into the scope of work for Hibernate 3.1.

Here's what I came up with:


*   Finish bulk update/delete, including, HHH-352
*   Clean up tuple package and make it truly extensible
*   Auto-detect {..} in queries, HHH-596
*   Support {coll.key}, etc, TODO-109
*   Support  in , HHH-381
*   Support XML based named result set mappings, HHH-597
*   Support joins in DetachedCriterias when used for subselecting
*   Keep readonly entities in soft references TODO-162


*   Maybe attribute-level query space granularity
*   Maybe add bulk insert ... select
*   Maybe finish StatelessSession stuff for customer
*   Maybe transform(), HHH-175


So there are three main broad areas here:


*   native SQL enhancements
*   bulk HQL functionality
*   performance tuning for "large" sessions


Along with a couple of other small things.


Thoughts?









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RE: [Hibernate] Scope of Hibernate 3.1

2005-06-08 Thread Gavin King
As you all know, I am still just not sold on this.

-Original Message-
From: Max Andersen 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2005 3:15 PM
To: Gavin King; hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Scope of Hibernate 3.1


Adding the ResultTransformer or similar to native sql and hql  
(http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-587)

Would complete the query result and entitymode possibilites.

-max

> I've put some thought into the scope of work for Hibernate 3.1.
>
> Here's what I came up with:
>
>
> * Finish bulk update/delete, including, HHH-352
> * Clean up tuple package and make it truly extensible
> * Auto-detect {..} in queries, HHH-596
> * Support {coll.key}, etc, TODO-109
> * Support  in , HHH-381
> * Support XML based named result set mappings, HHH-597
> * Support joins in DetachedCriterias when used for subselecting
> * Keep readonly entities in soft references TODO-162
>
>
> * Maybe attribute-level query space granularity
> * Maybe add bulk insert ... select
> * Maybe finish StatelessSession stuff for customer
> * Maybe transform(), HHH-175
>
>
> So there are three main broad areas here:
>
>
> * native SQL enhancements
> * bulk HQL functionality
> * performance tuning for "large" sessions
>
>
> Along with a couple of other small things.
>
>
> Thoughts?
>




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Re: [Hibernate] Scope of Hibernate 3.1

2005-06-08 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen


Adding the ResultTransformer or similar to native sql and hql  
(http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-587)


Would complete the query result and entitymode possibilites.

-max


I've put some thought into the scope of work for Hibernate 3.1.

Here's what I came up with:


*   Finish bulk update/delete, including, HHH-352
*   Clean up tuple package and make it truly extensible
*   Auto-detect {..} in queries, HHH-596
*   Support {coll.key}, etc, TODO-109
*   Support  in , HHH-381
*   Support XML based named result set mappings, HHH-597
*   Support joins in DetachedCriterias when used for subselecting
*   Keep readonly entities in soft references TODO-162


*   Maybe attribute-level query space granularity
*   Maybe add bulk insert ... select
*   Maybe finish StatelessSession stuff for customer
*   Maybe transform(), HHH-175


So there are three main broad areas here:


*   native SQL enhancements
*   bulk HQL functionality
*   performance tuning for "large" sessions


Along with a couple of other small things.


Thoughts?






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RE: [Hibernate] Enhanced filtering?

2005-06-08 Thread Gavin King
I am against changing the concept here. I think the original conception
is the only one that truly makes sense.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Ebersole
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2005 10:36 AM
To: Emmanuel Bernard; hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Enhanced filtering?

We were just talking about the delete use case last night in relation to
bulk deletes.  I think it really comes down to how we want to
conceptualize the filters.  Initially they were envisioned solely as a
mechanism for filtering returned data.  What we are talking about here
is a serious expansion on that original conceptualization with serious
ramifications in terms of caching.

The one that is really difficult is the get/load scenario, as that then
supposes extension out to to-one associations. 

Not sure how a filter (where condition) would even play into an
insert...

Even with deletes though, I can see what you are saying if the filters
are security-based, but what if the filters are temporal.  Do we really
want to limit the deleted rows there?

At any rate, I'd prefer instead that this kind of stuff were handled
through the events like the JACC stuff does.

-1

My $.02


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Emmanuel Bernard
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:26 AM
To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hibernate] Enhanced filtering?

I get some feedbacks from users using filters. Some of them seems to be 
*keen on* enhancing the filter capability to all session operations
 - load/get
 - save/update
 - delete

It makes sense for permissioned data as a global filtering. The thing is

that it needs to lower Hibernate capability (workaround update counts 
breaking etc, versioning issue). What do you guys think of that?



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[Hibernate] Scope of Hibernate 3.1

2005-06-08 Thread Gavin King








I’ve put some thought into the scope of work for
Hibernate 3.1. 

Here’s what I came up with:

 


 Finish bulk update/delete, including,
 HHH-352
 Clean up tuple package and make
 it truly extensible
 Auto-detect {..} in queries,
 HHH-596
 Support {coll.key}, etc,
 TODO-109
 Support 
 in , HHH-381
 Support XML based named result
 set mappings, HHH-597
 Support joins in
 DetachedCriterias when used for subselecting
 Keep readonly entities in soft
 references TODO-162


 


 Maybe attribute-level query
 space granularity
 Maybe add bulk insert …
 select
 Maybe finish StatelessSession
 stuff for customer
 Maybe transform(), HHH-175


 

So there are three main broad areas here:

 


 native SQL enhancements
 bulk HQL functionality
 performance tuning for “large”
 sessions


 

Along with a couple of other small things.

 

Thoughts?








RE: [Hibernate] Enhanced filtering?

2005-06-08 Thread Steve Ebersole
We were just talking about the delete use case last night in relation to
bulk deletes.  I think it really comes down to how we want to
conceptualize the filters.  Initially they were envisioned solely as a
mechanism for filtering returned data.  What we are talking about here
is a serious expansion on that original conceptualization with serious
ramifications in terms of caching.

The one that is really difficult is the get/load scenario, as that then
supposes extension out to to-one associations. 

Not sure how a filter (where condition) would even play into an
insert...

Even with deletes though, I can see what you are saying if the filters
are security-based, but what if the filters are temporal.  Do we really
want to limit the deleted rows there?

At any rate, I'd prefer instead that this kind of stuff were handled
through the events like the JACC stuff does.

-1

My $.02


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Emmanuel Bernard
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:26 AM
To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hibernate] Enhanced filtering?

I get some feedbacks from users using filters. Some of them seems to be 
*keen on* enhancing the filter capability to all session operations
 - load/get
 - save/update
 - delete

It makes sense for permissioned data as a global filtering. The thing is

that it needs to lower Hibernate capability (workaround update counts 
breaking etc, versioning issue). What do you guys think of that?



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[Hibernate] Enhanced filtering?

2005-06-08 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
I get some feedbacks from users using filters. Some of them seems to be 
*keen on* enhancing the filter capability to all session operations

- load/get
- save/update
- delete

It makes sense for permissioned data as a global filtering. The thing is 
that it needs to lower Hibernate capability (workaround update counts 
breaking etc, versioning issue). What do you guys think of that?




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