RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies

2005-07-01 Thread baliuka juozas 
BTW is it makes sence to discuss ? I am not sure this
kind of proxies are will be usefull for public.

--- baliuka juozas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Probably single workaround is public cast or
 narrow method in API, we can load object if it is
 not loaded and to remove proxy from session cache.
 
 --- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yes, exactly. 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: baliuka juozas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 1:22 PM
  To: Gavin King;
  hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based
  proxies
  
  
  I see no good way to make it lazy and to create
 the
  right type for
  polymorphic associations, if I understand the
  problem correctly then we
  need to know discriminator value before to
 create
  instance anyway. 
   
  --- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Will it work with polymorphic -to-one
  associations?
   
   You still need the indirection in that case,
 don't
  you?
   
   -Original Message-
   From: baliuka juozas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:37 AM
   To: Gavin King;
   hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Field interception
 based
  proxies
   
   
   I think it must be usefull to avoid proxy
  generation
   if persistent class
   implements HibernateProxy
   itself. I am going to implement it at build time
   using field interceptor
   ( it will take less time on startup and it will
  use
   less permanent
   memory ). It is not a proxy, but it will work
 in
   the same way  from
   user point of view ( without changes in mapping
   files, just an heuristic
   optimization ). As I understand it  needs
 trivial
   changes in proxy
   factory, but it makes sence with many domain
   classes.
   
   --- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Juozas, I don't really understand what you are
   proposing here.

What is a field interception based proxy?

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On Behalf Of
baliuka juozas
Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 9:30 AM
To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hibernate] Field interception based
   proxies

Hi,
I am going to implement field interception
 based
   proxies, I will need 
this stuff for projects with many classes (I
 see
   it can be implemnted 
using custom persister), probably it makes
 sence
   to add this feature 
for hibernate too if this is interesting for
   hibernate community.
Implemetation must be trivial, but there is
  single
   problem with id 
field name. I can asume this field name is
  always
   id, but if we are 
going to make this stuff public then we need
 to
   find better way.

   
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RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies

2005-06-30 Thread Gavin King 
Juozas, I don't really understand what you are proposing here.

What is a field interception based proxy?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
baliuka juozas
Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 9:30 AM
To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies

Hi,
I am going to implement field interception based proxies, I will need
this stuff for projects with many classes (I see it can be implemnted
using custom persister), probably it makes sence to add this feature for
hibernate too if this is interesting for hibernate community.
Implemetation must be trivial, but there is single problem with id field
name. I can asume this field name is always id, but if we are going to
make this stuff public then we need to find better way.

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RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies

2005-06-30 Thread baliuka juozas 

I think it must be usefull to avoid proxy generation 
if persistent class implements HibernateProxy
itself. I am going to implement it at build time using
field interceptor ( it will take less time on startup
and it will use less permanent memory ). It is not a
proxy, but it will work in the same way  from user
point of view ( without changes in mapping files, just
an heuristic optimization ). As I understand it  needs
trivial changes in proxy factory, but it makes sence
with many domain classes.

--- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Juozas, I don't really understand what you are
 proposing here.
 
 What is a field interception based proxy?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of
 baliuka juozas
 Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 9:30 AM
 To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Hibernate] Field interception based
 proxies
 
 Hi,
 I am going to implement field interception based
 proxies, I will need
 this stuff for projects with many classes (I see it
 can be implemnted
 using custom persister), probably it makes sence to
 add this feature for
 hibernate too if this is interesting for hibernate
 community.
 Implemetation must be trivial, but there is single
 problem with id field
 name. I can asume this field name is always id,
 but if we are going to
 make this stuff public then we need to find better
 way.
 
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RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies

2005-06-30 Thread Gavin King 
Will it work with polymorphic -to-one associations?

You still need the indirection in that case, don't you?

-Original Message-
From: baliuka juozas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:37 AM
To: Gavin King; hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies


I think it must be usefull to avoid proxy generation if persistent class
implements HibernateProxy
itself. I am going to implement it at build time using field interceptor
( it will take less time on startup and it will use less permanent
memory ). It is not a proxy, but it will work in the same way  from
user point of view ( without changes in mapping files, just an heuristic
optimization ). As I understand it  needs trivial changes in proxy
factory, but it makes sence with many domain classes.

--- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Juozas, I don't really understand what you are proposing here.
 
 What is a field interception based proxy?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of
 baliuka juozas
 Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 9:30 AM
 To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies
 
 Hi,
 I am going to implement field interception based proxies, I will need 
 this stuff for projects with many classes (I see it can be implemnted 
 using custom persister), probably it makes sence to add this feature 
 for hibernate too if this is interesting for hibernate community.
 Implemetation must be trivial, but there is single problem with id 
 field name. I can asume this field name is always id, but if we are 
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RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies

2005-06-30 Thread baliuka juozas 

I see no good way to make it lazy and to create the
right type for polymorphic associations, if I
understand the problem correctly then we need to know
discriminator value before to create instance
anyway. 
 
--- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Will it work with polymorphic -to-one associations?
 
 You still need the indirection in that case, don't
 you?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: baliuka juozas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:37 AM
 To: Gavin King;
 hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based
 proxies
 
 
 I think it must be usefull to avoid proxy generation
 if persistent class
 implements HibernateProxy
 itself. I am going to implement it at build time
 using field interceptor
 ( it will take less time on startup and it will use
 less permanent
 memory ). It is not a proxy, but it will work in
 the same way  from
 user point of view ( without changes in mapping
 files, just an heuristic
 optimization ). As I understand it  needs trivial
 changes in proxy
 factory, but it makes sence with many domain
 classes.
 
 --- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Juozas, I don't really understand what you are
 proposing here.
  
  What is a field interception based proxy?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of
  baliuka juozas
  Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 9:30 AM
  To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [Hibernate] Field interception based
 proxies
  
  Hi,
  I am going to implement field interception based
 proxies, I will need 
  this stuff for projects with many classes (I see
 it can be implemnted 
  using custom persister), probably it makes sence
 to add this feature 
  for hibernate too if this is interesting for
 hibernate community.
  Implemetation must be trivial, but there is single
 problem with id 
  field name. I can asume this field name is always
 id, but if we are 
  going to make this stuff public then we need to
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RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies

2005-06-30 Thread Gavin King 
Yes, exactly. 

-Original Message-
From: baliuka juozas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 1:22 PM
To: Gavin King; hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies


I see no good way to make it lazy and to create the right type for
polymorphic associations, if I understand the problem correctly then we
need to know discriminator value before to create instance anyway. 
 
--- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Will it work with polymorphic -to-one associations?
 
 You still need the indirection in that case, don't you?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: baliuka juozas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:37 AM
 To: Gavin King;
 hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies
 
 
 I think it must be usefull to avoid proxy generation
 if persistent class
 implements HibernateProxy
 itself. I am going to implement it at build time
 using field interceptor
 ( it will take less time on startup and it will use
 less permanent
 memory ). It is not a proxy, but it will work in
 the same way  from
 user point of view ( without changes in mapping
 files, just an heuristic
 optimization ). As I understand it  needs trivial
 changes in proxy
 factory, but it makes sence with many domain
 classes.
 
 --- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Juozas, I don't really understand what you are
 proposing here.
  
  What is a field interception based proxy?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of
  baliuka juozas
  Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 9:30 AM
  To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [Hibernate] Field interception based
 proxies
  
  Hi,
  I am going to implement field interception based
 proxies, I will need 
  this stuff for projects with many classes (I see
 it can be implemnted 
  using custom persister), probably it makes sence
 to add this feature 
  for hibernate too if this is interesting for
 hibernate community.
  Implemetation must be trivial, but there is single
 problem with id 
  field name. I can asume this field name is always
 id, but if we are 
  going to make this stuff public then we need to
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RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based proxies

2005-06-30 Thread baliuka juozas 
Probably single workaround is public cast or
narrow method in API, we can load object if it is
not loaded and to remove proxy from session cache.

--- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, exactly. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: baliuka juozas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 1:22 PM
 To: Gavin King;
 hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based
 proxies
 
 
 I see no good way to make it lazy and to create the
 right type for
 polymorphic associations, if I understand the
 problem correctly then we
 need to know discriminator value before to create
 instance anyway. 
  
 --- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Will it work with polymorphic -to-one
 associations?
  
  You still need the indirection in that case, don't
 you?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: baliuka juozas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:37 AM
  To: Gavin King;
  hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based
 proxies
  
  
  I think it must be usefull to avoid proxy
 generation
  if persistent class
  implements HibernateProxy
  itself. I am going to implement it at build time
  using field interceptor
  ( it will take less time on startup and it will
 use
  less permanent
  memory ). It is not a proxy, but it will work in
  the same way  from
  user point of view ( without changes in mapping
  files, just an heuristic
  optimization ). As I understand it  needs trivial
  changes in proxy
  factory, but it makes sence with many domain
  classes.
  
  --- Gavin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Juozas, I don't really understand what you are
  proposing here.
   
   What is a field interception based proxy?
   
   -Original Message-
   From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of
   baliuka juozas
   Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 9:30 AM
   To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: [Hibernate] Field interception based
  proxies
   
   Hi,
   I am going to implement field interception based
  proxies, I will need 
   this stuff for projects with many classes (I see
  it can be implemnted 
   using custom persister), probably it makes sence
  to add this feature 
   for hibernate too if this is interesting for
  hibernate community.
   Implemetation must be trivial, but there is
 single
  problem with id 
   field name. I can asume this field name is
 always
  id, but if we are 
   going to make this stuff public then we need to
  find better way.
   
  
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