RE: [Hibernate] QuerySyntaxException not always serializable

2005-09-08 Thread Scott M Stark
No, as when this happens its deep in some serialization stack that has
no ability to know that an improperly written subclass can be safely
replaced with an instance of its baseclass. This is definitely a bug in
antlr and a common mistake since the contract for Serializable was is
often introduced several baseclasses away.

The hibernate base exception has this semantic knowledge, but its just a
hack around the broken antlr exception.

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> We should report it to Antlr.
> 
...
> Regarding culling of these exceptions isn't that something 
> appserers actually can do in their serialization code ? 
> (maybe keeping it Hibernate would be better to be more portable)
> 
> 
> /max
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Re: [Hibernate] QuerySyntaxException not always serializable

2005-09-08 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen


We should report it to Antlr.

Regarding exceptions it would be good if we started adding some more value  
to these exceptions -
it would be so much better if I actually could get the line/column numbers  
as getters on the QuerySyntaxException.


The same goes with many of our other exceptions where I would need to  
parse (it at all possible) to report a sensible

error to the ant-task/plugin user.

Anyone who objects to me starting adding this to some of our exceptions  
(and possible create more specific exception subclasses) ?


Regarding culling of these exceptions isn't that something appserers  
actually can do in their
serialization code ? (maybe keeping it Hibernate would be better to be  
more portable)


/max


This is nicer.
By design an exception is Serializable. It's a contract break from  
antlr. So the breaking exception list has to be manually maintained.


Steve Ebersole wrote:


A simpler solution would be to just add a writeObject() impl to
HibernateException which culls the cause if it is not serializable
(either to null or some "marker").

This would be all encompassing.  Plus it would still allow the cause to
be known (so long as no attempt is made to serialize it).


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Emmanuel Bernard
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:05 AM
To: Hibernate development
Subject: [Hibernate] QuerySyntaxException not always serializable

To be more specific,
RecognitionException the cause exception may be not Serializable (eg  
antlr.NoViableAltException (AST and Token are not serializable)

Thus JBoss or any remote capable system clashes on remote calls.

Is it OK if we do not propagate the cause exception?
ie
public QuerySyntaxException(RecognitionException e) {
   super( e.getMessage() + (
   ( e.getLine() > 0 && e.getColumn() > 0 ) ?
   ( " near line " + e.getLine() + ", column " +  
e.getColumn() ) : ""

   ), *null* ); //instead of e
   }

Or do we consider Hibernate exceptions as not Serializable?



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Re: [Hibernate] QuerySyntaxException not always serializable

2005-09-08 Thread Emmanuel Bernard

This is nicer.
By design an exception is Serializable. It's a contract break from 
antlr. So the breaking exception list has to be manually maintained.


Steve Ebersole wrote:


A simpler solution would be to just add a writeObject() impl to
HibernateException which culls the cause if it is not serializable
(either to null or some "marker").

This would be all encompassing.  Plus it would still allow the cause to
be known (so long as no attempt is made to serialize it).


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Emmanuel Bernard
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:05 AM
To: Hibernate development
Subject: [Hibernate] QuerySyntaxException not always serializable

To be more specific,
RecognitionException the cause exception may be not Serializable (eg 
antlr.NoViableAltException (AST and Token are not serializable)

Thus JBoss or any remote capable system clashes on remote calls.

Is it OK if we do not propagate the cause exception?
ie
public QuerySyntaxException(RecognitionException e) {
   super( e.getMessage() + (
   ( e.getLine() > 0 && e.getColumn() > 0 ) ?
   ( " near line " + e.getLine() + ", column " + 
e.getColumn() ) : ""

   ), *null* ); //instead of e
   }

Or do we consider Hibernate exceptions as not Serializable?



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RE: [Hibernate] QuerySyntaxException not always serializable

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Ebersole
A simpler solution would be to just add a writeObject() impl to
HibernateException which culls the cause if it is not serializable
(either to null or some "marker").

This would be all encompassing.  Plus it would still allow the cause to
be known (so long as no attempt is made to serialize it).


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Emmanuel Bernard
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:05 AM
To: Hibernate development
Subject: [Hibernate] QuerySyntaxException not always serializable

To be more specific,
RecognitionException the cause exception may be not Serializable (eg 
antlr.NoViableAltException (AST and Token are not serializable)
Thus JBoss or any remote capable system clashes on remote calls.

Is it OK if we do not propagate the cause exception?
ie
public QuerySyntaxException(RecognitionException e) {
super( e.getMessage() + (
( e.getLine() > 0 && e.getColumn() > 0 ) ?
( " near line " + e.getLine() + ", column " + 
e.getColumn() ) : ""
), *null* ); //instead of e
}

Or do we consider Hibernate exceptions as not Serializable?



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