[Histonet] FW: mouse prions

2010-02-23 Thread Edwards, Richard E.

Anybody out there handling/processing/sectioning mouse tissue containing mouse 
prions, if so,  what  safety precautions do  you  take?.

Thanks

  Richard  Edwards
 
  

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[Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard

2010-02-23 Thread Silverman, Jeffrey
Here is the new standard for cryostat decontamination. No references are given 
documenting or supporting the need for this onerous and cumbersome weekly 
requirement. I suggest we lobby the CAP and demand  both documentation 
supporting the need for weekly defrosting or, better, a more user friendly and 
sensible standard.

Jeff Silverman


**REVISED** 06/15/2009
ANP.12087 Phase II N/A YES NO
Is there a documented procedure for the routine decontamination of the cryostat 
at defined intervals,
and are decontamination records evident?
NOTE: The cryostat must be defrosted and decontaminated with a tuberculocidal 
disinfectant at an
interval appropriate for the institution; this must be weekly for instruments 
used daily. Trimmings and
sections of tissue that accumulate inside the cryostat must be removed during 
decontamination. Although
not a requirement, steel mesh gloves should be worn when changing knife blades.





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Re: [Histonet] Work Load Units

2010-02-23 Thread Rene J Buesa
What do you exactly mean by Work Load Units?
You should know how many cases and blocks you process by day, week or year, and 
you also know how many hours your staff uses to complete the tasks derived from 
those cases and blocks.
The total work completed between the staff members completing them during a 
given amount of time will allow you to calculate productivity.
If you are referring to which to select, the case is relevant  for the 
pathologists, the slide for the cytotech and the block for the histotech 
because they refer to what the usually handle.
René J.

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Fierke, Vaughn vaughn.fie...@va.gov wrote:


From: Fierke, Vaughn vaughn.fie...@va.gov
Subject: [Histonet] Work Load Units
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 6:01 PM


Looking for a good system that works in recording Work Load Units.

I've inquired to CAP; they do not have any material available at this
time nor recommendations.

I've looked at CPT codes but they only reflect billable services in
pathology; descriptions are fairly general and cannot be broken down
into tasks of the tech. Looked in the Histonet archives; found
information not too current.

Thanks for any information.

Vaughn

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Re: [Histonet] PPE's embedding and cutting

2010-02-23 Thread Rene J Buesa
No! Neither to wear gloves when sectioning. Both are unwarranted requirements 
that interfere with the histotech's productivity.
René J.

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rick.garnh...@memorialhealthsystem.com
Subject: [Histonet] PPE's embedding and cutting
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 6:12 PM



Anyone in histology land required to wear all PPE's to embed and cut?


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Re: [Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard

2010-02-23 Thread Pamela Marcum


Thank you Jeffery.  I am not sure how we get to CAP on this however; it makes 
no sense for a really busy lab unless they want to give us enough cryostats to 
make up for the problem this will cause.  Is this something NSH might decide to 
help with?  



It may be time to bombard them (CAP) with questions and report the issues it 
will cause with patient care.  None of us want to use a contaminated cryostat 
but we also know how to decontaminate without being in danger and stopping 
surgery for frozens . 



Pam Marcum 

UAMS - Anatomic Pathology 



- Original Message - 
From: Jeffrey Silverman   JSilverman @ NSHS . edu  
To: histonet @lists. utsouthwestern . edu 
Cc: Jeffrey Silverman   JSilverman @ NSHS . edu  
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:23:39 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ Histonet ] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard 

Here is the new standard for cryostat decontamination. No references are given 
documenting or supporting the need for this onerous and cumbersome weekly 
requirement. I suggest we lobby the CAP and demand  both documentation 
supporting the need for weekly defrosting or, better, a more user friendly and 
sensible standard. 

Jeff Silverman 


**REVISED** 06/15/2009 
ANP .12087 Phase II N/A YES NO 
Is there a documented procedure for the routine decontamination of the cryostat 
at defined intervals, 
and are decontamination records evident? 
NOTE: The cryostat must be defrosted and decontaminated with a tuberculocidal 
disinfectant at an 
interval appropriate for the institution; this must be weekly for instruments 
used daily. Trimmings and 
sections of tissue that accumulate inside the cryostat must be removed during 
decontamination. Although 
not a requirement, steel mesh gloves should be worn when changing knife blades. 





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RE: [Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Pence
The way I read this is if I don't use my cryostat 7 days a week, 365 days a 
year, then I don't use it daily and therefore I will set my own routine 
decontamination schedule.
Mike
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pamela Marcum
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:06 AM
To: Jeffrey Silverman
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jeffrey Silverman
Subject: Re: [Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard




Thank you Jeffery.  I am not sure how we get to CAP on this however; it makes 
no sense for a really busy lab unless they want to give us enough cryostats to 
make up for the problem this will cause.  Is this something NSH might decide to 
help with?  



It may be time to bombard them (CAP) with questions and report the issues it 
will cause with patient care.  None of us want to use a contaminated cryostat 
but we also know how to decontaminate without being in danger and stopping 
surgery for frozens . 



Pam Marcum 

UAMS - Anatomic Pathology 



- Original Message - 
From: Jeffrey Silverman   JSilverman @ NSHS . edu  
To: histonet @lists. utsouthwestern . edu 
Cc: Jeffrey Silverman   JSilverman @ NSHS . edu  
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:23:39 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ Histonet ] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard 

Here is the new standard for cryostat decontamination. No references are given 
documenting or supporting the need for this onerous and cumbersome weekly 
requirement. I suggest we lobby the CAP and demand  both documentation 
supporting the need for weekly defrosting or, better, a more user friendly and 
sensible standard. 

Jeff Silverman 


**REVISED** 06/15/2009 
ANP .12087 Phase II N/A YES NO 
Is there a documented procedure for the routine decontamination of the cryostat 
at defined intervals, 
and are decontamination records evident? 
NOTE: The cryostat must be defrosted and decontaminated with a tuberculocidal 
disinfectant at an 
interval appropriate for the institution; this must be weekly for instruments 
used daily. Trimmings and 
sections of tissue that accumulate inside the cryostat must be removed during 
decontamination. Although 
not a requirement, steel mesh gloves should be worn when changing knife blades. 





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Re: [Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard

2010-02-23 Thread Rene J Buesa
Please remember that from time to time CAP inspectors sit to ponder what 
something new can we add to our list so it appears that we are not using always 
the same old one?.
And from time to time the come up with requirements like this. You will never 
change them and the requirements will keep piling up one on top of the other.
Caveat: sometimes the changes are warranted (only some).
René J.
 


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From: Pamela Marcum mucra...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard
To: Jeffrey Silverman jsilver...@nshs.edu
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Jeffrey Silverman jsilver...@nshs.edu
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 10:05 AM




Thank you Jeffery.  I am not sure how we get to CAP on this however; it makes 
no sense for a really busy lab unless they want to give us enough cryostats to 
make up for the problem this will cause.  Is this something NSH might decide to 
help with?  



It may be time to bombard them (CAP) with questions and report the issues it 
will cause with patient care.  None of us want to use a contaminated cryostat 
but we also know how to decontaminate without being in danger and stopping 
surgery for frozens . 



Pam Marcum 

UAMS - Anatomic Pathology 



- Original Message - 
From: Jeffrey Silverman   JSilverman @ NSHS . edu  
To: histonet @lists. utsouthwestern . edu 
Cc: Jeffrey Silverman   JSilverman @ NSHS . edu  
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:23:39 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ Histonet ] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard 

Here is the new standard for cryostat decontamination. No references are given 
documenting or supporting the need for this onerous and cumbersome weekly 
requirement. I suggest we lobby the CAP and demand  both documentation 
supporting the need for weekly defrosting or, better, a more user friendly and 
sensible standard. 

Jeff Silverman 


**REVISED** 06/15/2009 
ANP .12087 Phase II N/A YES NO 
Is there a documented procedure for the routine decontamination of the cryostat 
at defined intervals, 
and are decontamination records evident? 
NOTE: The cryostat must be defrosted and decontaminated with a tuberculocidal 
disinfectant at an 
interval appropriate for the institution; this must be weekly for instruments 
used daily. Trimmings and 
sections of tissue that accumulate inside the cryostat must be removed during 
decontamination. Although 
not a requirement, steel mesh gloves should be worn when changing knife blades. 





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RE: [Histonet] Work Load Units

2010-02-23 Thread Weems, Joyce
Unfortunately, many facilities are only counting billable tests and all the 
recuts, sendouts, and work done pulling cases for conferences cannot be 
counted. It is a nightmare that needs to be addressed!! My 2 cents...j


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 09:47
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; VaughnFierke
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Work Load Units

What do you exactly mean by Work Load Units?
You should know how many cases and blocks you process by day, week or year, and 
you also know how many hours your staff uses to complete the tasks derived from 
those cases and blocks.
The total work completed between the staff members completing them during a 
given amount of time will allow you to calculate productivity.
If you are referring to which to select, the case is relevant  for the 
pathologists, the slide for the cytotech and the block for the histotech 
because they refer to what the usually handle.
René J.

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Fierke, Vaughn vaughn.fie...@va.gov wrote:


From: Fierke, Vaughn vaughn.fie...@va.gov
Subject: [Histonet] Work Load Units
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 6:01 PM


Looking for a good system that works in recording Work Load Units.

I've inquired to CAP; they do not have any material available at this time nor 
recommendations.

I've looked at CPT codes but they only reflect billable services in pathology; 
descriptions are fairly general and cannot be broken down into tasks of the 
tech. Looked in the Histonet archives; found information not too current.

Thanks for any information.

Vaughn

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2010-02-23 Thread Madeline Gi
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RE: [Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard

2010-02-23 Thread Jesus Ellin
To me the key word in here is interval.  If a regularly scheduled interval is 
set, this could be daily , weekly, monthly or quarterly.  Obviously there are 
going to be the times when a contaminant is there and the machine has to be 
brought down, but also I do not see the mention of the UV light.  We have a 
Leica that has an internal UV button.  This is pressed everyday as well as 
normal daily maintenance.  Once a month our cryostat is brought down for 
decontamination.  This is part of the normal maintenance.  I agree that is the 
CAP wants this to happen, it needs to be clearly defined within the question 
and not up to interpretation.

Jesus Ellin  HT/PA  ASCP

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Pence
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:18 AM
To: Pamela Marcum; Jeffrey Silverman
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jeffrey Silverman
Subject: RE: [Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard

The way I read this is if I don't use my cryostat 7 days a week, 365 days a 
year, then I don't use it daily and therefore I will set my own routine 
decontamination schedule.
Mike
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pamela Marcum
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:06 AM
To: Jeffrey Silverman
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jeffrey Silverman
Subject: Re: [Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard




Thank you Jeffery.  I am not sure how we get to CAP on this however; it makes 
no sense for a really busy lab unless they want to give us enough cryostats to 
make up for the problem this will cause.  Is this something NSH might decide to 
help with?  



It may be time to bombard them (CAP) with questions and report the issues it 
will cause with patient care.  None of us want to use a contaminated cryostat 
but we also know how to decontaminate without being in danger and stopping 
surgery for frozens . 



Pam Marcum 

UAMS - Anatomic Pathology 



- Original Message - 
From: Jeffrey Silverman   JSilverman @ NSHS . edu  
To: histonet @lists. utsouthwestern . edu 
Cc: Jeffrey Silverman   JSilverman @ NSHS . edu  
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:23:39 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ Histonet ] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard 

Here is the new standard for cryostat decontamination. No references are given 
documenting or supporting the need for this onerous and cumbersome weekly 
requirement. I suggest we lobby the CAP and demand  both documentation 
supporting the need for weekly defrosting or, better, a more user friendly and 
sensible standard. 

Jeff Silverman 


**REVISED** 06/15/2009 
ANP .12087 Phase II N/A YES NO 
Is there a documented procedure for the routine decontamination of the cryostat 
at defined intervals, 
and are decontamination records evident? 
NOTE: The cryostat must be defrosted and decontaminated with a tuberculocidal 
disinfectant at an 
interval appropriate for the institution; this must be weekly for instruments 
used daily. Trimmings and 
sections of tissue that accumulate inside the cryostat must be removed during 
decontamination. Although 
not a requirement, steel mesh gloves should be worn when changing knife blades. 





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[Histonet] seeking histology position - Ron Martin

2010-02-23 Thread Durden, Kelley
Go to 
https://jobs.ufl.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/frameset/Frameset.jsp?time=1266864723194

You'll have to create a user ID and login.

UF will have a posting in the next week or so.

ASCP license desired, FL DOH license is a plus.

Also the Gainesville Veterans hospital has a position available - you can apply 
in person but I am not sure where to apply online.

I hope you are successful in your job search!

Kelley

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RE: [Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard

2010-02-23 Thread Silverman, Jeffrey
Folks:
Please read the checklist notes carefully- I don't think for most of us this is 
open to interpretation. The standard note says:  MUST be defrosted and 
decontaminated with a tuberculocidal WEEKLY for machines used daily. It's not 
open to interpretation if you do frozens daily. Tiny institutions that do one 
or two frozens a week may have some leeway, but I suspect most of us need to do 
it weekly to comply with the standard. 

And the UV lights are not tuberculocidal and do not reach all surfaces.   See 
this link from the Leica instruction manual: 
http://www.well.ox.ac.uk/_asset/file/leica-disinifection-2.pdf.  A partial 
quote: 

Please note that ALL visible contamination must be removed from the chamber 
before using the UV C light and that the germicidal effect of the radiation is 
restricted to directly illuminated areas. Exposure to UV irradiation cannot 
replace chemical disinfection.
5. For more extensive disinfection, bring the cryostat to room temperature and 
wipe the exposed surfaces with an EPA approved tuberculocidal disinfectant. The 
EPA publishes a list of approved disinfectants. Follow the directions written 
on the containers.

Another reference re: UV decon: from -- 
http://www.unmc.edu/media/ibc/manual/biosafety_manual_march2008_final_compressed.doc#engineering
 Radiation
Gamma and X-ray are two principal types of ionizing radiation used in 
sterilization. Their application is mainly centered on the sterilization of 
prepackaged medical devices. Ultraviolet (UV) radiation is a practical method 
for inactivating viruses, Mycoplasma, bacteria and fungi. UV radiation is 
successfully used in the destruction of airborne microorganisms; UV light 
sterilizing capabilities are limited on surfaces because of its lack of 
penetrating power. 

Finally, here's an article on biosafety in pathology labs from CAP Today where 
they reiterate the weekly requirement for cryostat decontamination at room 
temperature. 
http://www.cap.org/apps/cap.portal?_nfpb=truecntvwrPtlt_actionOverride=%2Fportlets%2FcontentViewer%2Fshow_windowLabel=cntvwrPtltcntvwrPtlt%7BactionForm.contentReference%7D=cap_today%2F0909%2F0909b_taking_stock.html_state=maximized_pageLabel=cntvwr

I can just hear rhe sounds of numerous CAP dings being registered. Oh, the 
humanity. :-)

Jeff Silverman 


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From: Behnaz Sohrab [mailto:sohra...@ah.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:01 AM
To: Silverman, Jeffrey
Subject: Re: [Histonet] New cryostat decontamination CAP statndard

I think we can establish our own QC definition for  ROUTINE as they are 
requesting, it could be once a month or any other routine that works for your 
lab usage and size?
Behnaz

 Silverman, Jeffrey jsilver...@nshs.edu 2/23/2010 6:23 AM 
Here is the new standard for cryostat decontamination. No references are given 
documenting or supporting the need for this onerous and cumbersome weekly 
requirement. I suggest we lobby the CAP and demand  both documentation 
supporting the need for weekly defrosting or, better, a more user friendly and 
sensible standard.

Jeff Silverman


**REVISED** 06/15/2009
ANP.12087 Phase II N/A YES NO
Is there a documented procedure for the routine decontamination of the cryostat 
at defined intervals,
and are decontamination records evident?
NOTE: The cryostat must be defrosted and decontaminated with a tuberculocidal 
disinfectant at an
interval appropriate for the institution; this must be weekly for instruments 
used daily. Trimmings and
sections of tissue that accumulate inside the cryostat must be removed during 
decontamination. Although
not a requirement, steel mesh gloves should be worn when changing knife blades.





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Fwd: Re: [Histonet] Bone tissue

2010-02-23 Thread John Kiernan


 Just for the record, Mollifex isn't alkaline. It is probably either Baker's 
1941 mixture (see below) or the following (parts by volume):
95% ethanol 952
Glycerol 32
Acetone 80 
Liquid phenol 8
 - - -
Liquid phenol is probably liquefied phenol, USP, which contains about 10% 
water and at least 89% phenol (w/w), or something similar.
 For more information and discussion, see Maria Wynnchuk (1992) Minimizing 
artifacts in tissue processing: Part 1. Importance of softening agents. J. 
Histotechnol. 15(4): 321-323. This paper also discusses effects of softening 
faced blocks on HE staining.
  
John R Baker (1941) used 9 parts 60% ethanol and 1 part glycerol (J. Roy. 
Microsc. Soc. 61: 75), whereas R. C. Pearlman and Buell C. Cole (1951) sang the 
praises of 1% dishwashing detergent and similar solutions (Stain Technol. 
26(2): 115-118). Manfred Gabe (Histological Techniques, Paris, 1976, a great 
book) favoured soaking faced paraffin blocks in cold water. For what it's 
worth, I have found water helpful when sectioning decalcified rats' heads. With 
all these well documented and inexpensive softening liquids it should never be 
necessary to resort to a proprietary product whose composition is kept secret 
from the buyer and user.
  
 John Kiernan
 Anatomy, UWO
 London, Canada
  = = =
 - Original Message -
 From: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
 Date: Monday, February 22, 2010 16:43
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] Bone tissue
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Reuel Cornelia 
 reuel.corne...@tsrh.org
 
  First of all, Mollifex or any other alkaline substance will do 
  nothing useful to the bone.
  I tend to think that you processed the bone before it was 
  completely decalcified and that is the cause for an incomplete 
  infiltration and a subsequent difficult sectioning.
  René J.
  
  --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Reuel Cornelia reuel.corne...@tsrh.org 
  wrote:
  
  From: Reuel Cornelia reuel.corne...@tsrh.org
  Subject: [Histonet] Bone tissue
  To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 4:36 PM
  
  
  We have a difficulty cutting metatarsal bone . It seems that our 
  sections are so dried up. I was thinking that our dehydration 
  have something to do with this which we have placed it in a 
  wrong processing procedure for our large bone. The tissue is 4 
  mm thick and 1-2 cm in length and width and  was dehydrated in 
  70% - 4 hrs, 80%-4 hrs,95% -4 hrs and 2 changes of 100% 3 hrs 
  each, paraffin is 4 hrs each 2 changes. The tissue was 
  decalcified in 14% EDTA. When we start cutting them it is so 
  brittle and we could not even create a section. I have surfaced 
  decal it and also place in a softener Mollifex some of it work 
  but some does not work. Please help us remedy this tissue. Thank you.
  
  
  
  
  Reuel Cornelia, BS MT, AMT
  Cellular Pathology
  Texas Scottish Rite Hospital for Children
   Welborn Street
  Dallas, TX 75219
  Tel: 214-559-7766
  fax: 214-559-7768
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RE: [Histonet] DRGs histogel

2010-02-23 Thread Karen Doty

  I think dehydration during processing can effect the outcome with histogel. I 
use it frequently to help orient small samples with very good results almost 
always. 

   

One time, I was trying to arrange several samples in the same block and the 
histogel got too cold and set up when I was partly finished. I put it all in 
our oven hoping to remelt it. When I took it out, it had become a hard thin 
sheet, sort of like dried paint or glue. The only thing I could think of that 
had happened, was that since it was in a shape with a lot of surface area, it 
had dried out instead of melting. I wanted to save the sample that was in it, 
so I added some water. Thankfully, the histogel became gel like again and I was 
able to find the sample which I transfered to fresh histogel. The reconstituted 
histogel seemed to be the same as regular histogel, excep it lost its pink 
color. The samples also were ok.

 

 I've never had any real problems cutting histogel (and hope I don't), but if I 
get one that is a little crumbly, I soak it extra long and that helps. I think 
that maybe when there are inconsistent results with histogel, maybe something 
happens during processing so it becomes dried out or overly dehydrated.  I have 
used it both out of formalin and out of 70%. I've also embedded it both wet and 
dry without problems. Sometimes it is whiter than others.

Karen Doty
 
 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:35:10 -0800
 From: dunat...@sbcglobal.net
 To: port...@msu.edu; algra...@email.arizona.edu; 
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] DRGs
 CC: 
 
 I also think that it is strange of the way Histogel processes. I have posted 
 on the Histonet previously about this exact problem. I worked with Jennifer 
 Hofecker when she was at Vanderbilt U.(sent her my Histogel and she sent me 
 hers) and ended up with perfectly processed Histogel blocks at our facility 
 and hers. I processed a couple of blocks last week and they were just 
 terrible. No change in the processing schedule, or the way Histogel was 
 liquefied (placed in hot water that was heated in the microwave). Prior to 
 the last two blocks, I must have processed at least a dozen blocks without 
 any problems. There was an incident where I placed two histogels in the same 
 cassete. One processed beautifuly and the other was all shrunken and dried up.
 I do not liquefy the entire tube, rather I scoop out the approximate amount 
 that I need and transfer to another tube to heat up. If there is anyone out 
 there in Histoland that has not had any issues with the Histogel, can you 
 please post your procedure on liquefying the Histogel, method of 
 cooling/solidifying and processing schedule? The only thing that I do that is 
 not exact is I do not know the temp of my hot water when i place the Histogel 
 to liquefy. I basically have to wait several minutes for the gel to melt and 
 I use it immediately.
 Any new information or solution from anyone, would be greatly appreciated.
 Thank you
 Dusko Trajkovic
 
 
 
 
 From: Amy Porter port...@msu.edu
 To: Andrea Grantham algra...@email.arizona.edu; HISTONET 
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 9:01:22 AM
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] DRGs
 
 I think it is strange that we are all doing similar techniques and wind up
 with different outcomes using the histogel.  I would be curious how many of
 us are using the equipment sold with the histogel for warming and cooling
 opposed to any of us who don't.  we did not purchase the equipment and I
 wonder sometimes if warming the histogel using other means causes some type
 of breakdown / and do any of you repeatedly reheat the same tube once it has
 been warmed and resolidified??
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Andrea
 Grantham
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:41 AM
 To: HISTONET
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] DRGs
 Importance: High
 
 Hi Carol,
 I have used histogel for these kinds of samples and also other small,  
 thin tissues like insect antennae and insect GI tracts and midguts.  
 Since I get all my projects already fixed in whatever fixative the  
 investigator chooses, rinsed and placed in 70% ETOH the histogel never  
 touches formalin. I don't use formalin on my processor but start in  
 70%. I've never had a problem with the histogel. We just put the  
 sample in the histogel flat and stand it up (turn 90°) when embedding  
 in paraffin. I use tissue prep for embedding.
 If you don't want to use histogel you could try to put the drg's on GN  
 Metricel membrane disc filters. We do this with a lot of the samples I  
 receive, actually I have the investigators or their techs do this. The  
 tissue sticks to the membrane and orientation is a dream. The membrane  
 presents no problem when sectioning. You can get it from VWR.
 
 Andi
 
 
 
 Andrea Grantham, HT (ASCP)
 Senior Research 

RE: [Histonet] Double labeling with antibodies that need different fixatives

2010-02-23 Thread Andrea T. Hooper
Hi Phebe,
 
In my experience that CD31 clone you refer to doesn't work well mainly b/c of 
paraffin embedding -  in combination with PFA/formalin fixation. On 
PFA/formalin fixed frozen samples it works just fine with a trypsin antigen 
retrieval step. I find it's the paraffin that is the real killer. Try Biocare's 
anti-CD31, that works on FFPE. Or use another marker of endothelium (if that's 
what you are using CD31 for).
 
Alternatively, are you sure your second antibody only works in FFPE formalin 
fixed tissue? Because it may well work on formalin fixed frozen tissue, then 
you can use both on that instead (just remember to do the trypsin digestion). 
Or use fresh snap frozen tissue postfixed in PFA for 10 minutes then no antigen 
retrieval necessary.
 
Good luck!
Andrea Hooper


--- Phebe Verbrugghe pverbrug...@meddent.uwa.edu.au wrote:


    Hi all,
        
        I would like to do an immunofluorescent double labeling
with two
        antibodies but 1 antibody works on acetone fixed frozen
tissue but not
        on formalin fixed paraffin embedded tissue (CD31 BD
pharmingen 553370)
        and the other one works on formalin fixed paraffin
embedded tissue but
        not on acetone fixed frozen tissue. Is there any way I
could still do a
        double labeling and how?
        Also, does anyone have experience with zinc fixative? If
my antibody
        works on formalin fixed tissue is it likely to also work
on zinc fixed
        tissue?
        
        Thank you very much in advance,
        
        Phebe
    



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[Histonet] QA Report

2010-02-23 Thread Behnaz Sohrab
I was wondering if any one has special form that they provide to QA committee 
meeting in their hospital? This separate from all qc done in the lab!.
Thanks,behnaz


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[Histonet] Any travel positions available?

2010-02-23 Thread Leah Cox
Has anyone heard of any travel or contract positions? 
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[Histonet] Leica Knife Holder CM1510

2010-02-23 Thread Andrew Burgeson
If anyone is in need of a CM 1510 leica cryostat knife
holder for low profile blades, please contact me.  Willing
to part with this still functional item at a reasonable
cost. FOR LOW PROFILE BLADES. Good price for back-up or
replacement for Mohs or other enterprise. Not an easy item
to find used.



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