[Histonet] IHC antibody protocols

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Brooks
Hello All,

I need help with information on a few Ventana BenchMark Ultra or XT
protocols.  We are having trouble getting HCL (DBA.44) to work.  We are
also in the process of working up FOXP-1, TAI-1, and GCET-1.  Your help
is appreciated.

Thank you,

Matt Brooks, BS, HT (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
InCyte Pathology
mbro...@incytepathology.com
509-892-2744


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Re: [Histonet] Frozen brain slices

2010-11-15 Thread ANJUM PARKAR
Thanks Tina. I will keep in mind the thickness for staining purposes that is
once the slicing protocol gets optimized. So we use 200-300 ml of both PBS and
PFA for our perfusion. So the post fix and sucrose treatment you are
suggesting, are you suggesting for the new harvests alone which I will be doing
or the existing frozen perfused ones?
Anjum

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 10:35 PM, Montina Van Meter montina.vanme...@pbrc.edu
wrote:

Anhum,
How much PBS and Paraformaldehyde do you put through the (rat or  
mouse). I flush a perfuse our rats with 150-200ml. of PBS and 500ml.  
of Para. Postfix for 2 hours and place in 20% sucrose overnight until  
the tisue sinks to the bottom of the vial.
The morphology of your tissue is going to be compromised due to freeze  
artifact (lack of cryoprotectant) and there will be holes in your  
sections.

Actually, 30um thick sections are considered quite thick and are  
typically used for free floating techniques. Sections that are mounted  
on slides before IHC staining are much thinner (3-10um).  I usually  
cut my tissue between 30-40um and manually free float the sections for  
IHC or IF.

Tina


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 14, 2010, at 9:05 PM, ANJUM PARKAR axp...@psu.edu
wrote:

 Thanks Tina. I will keep the sucrose suggestion in mind for future  
 harvests.
 For now I need to figure out how to slice the already fixed frozen  
 tissue. Will
 try to equilibrate in the cryostat itself as against room  
 temperature and see
 how that goes. The knife angle is 13 degrees and recently sharpened  
 and
 thickness of slices 30 microns which I believe is standard for  
 sectioning. I
 have sectioned previously a lot so doing hands on is something I am  
 familiar
 with. But I did realize every instrument is different and while  
 doing a
 procedure it always needs to be optimized until it can become  
 routine. Will let
 you know how things go.
 Anjum


 On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 02:21 PM, Montina Van Meter
montina.vanme...@pbrc.edu 
 
 wrote:

 Anhum,
 1. You MUST cryoprotect the fixed tissue in 15-30% sucrose (until it
 sinks) prior to cutting frozen sections.
 2. Allow the -80C embedded tissue block to equilabrate to -20C in the
 cryostat for 15-20min.
 3. Check the knife angle. Thickness?
 4. Change knife or sharpen and make sure all screws are tight.
 5. Freez/thawing of block is not a good idea (especially since it's
 not cryoprotected). You are introducing ice crystal artifact.
 6. Check around your department (or Histology Core) to see if
someone

 can instruct you on using the cryostat. It's always better to  
 actually
 watch someone in addition to receiving written instructions.

 Good luck,
 Tina


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:47 AM, ANJUM PARKAR
axp...@psu.edu
 wrote:

 Hello all,
 I have been having some histology issues in terms of rat brain
 slicing the past
 few months and hence looking for suggestions to fix them, having
 tried most of
 what I know from my past training and running of ideas real fast  
 now.
 The following is the protocol I have used thus far:-1. Animal
 perfusion-a)Use
 PBS first, b) Use 4%PFA next and c) Harvest brain right after
 PFA.
 (Transcardial perfusion)2. Freeze brain by embedding in OCT
 compound
 using dry
 ice and then storing at -80 until ready to slice. Alternatively some
 times the
 -80 is used straight up with out dry ice freezing (still embedded in
 OCT).3.
 From standard protocol I do not do two things-a) No post fixation
 once brain is
 harvested and b) No sucrose. Reason being, I was taught that these
 two steps
 might result in large holes in tissue.4.For slicing, we have the
 older cryostat
 version (Real old version of CM3050S from Vibrotome-30 micron
 slices) which
 uses a fixed knife for slicing and has a chamber temp control and
 one for the
 specimen. The cryostat has not been serviced for a few years now.5.
 In attempt
 1-I take the brain out of the -80 once the chamber temperature comes
 to -20 and
 mount the frozen mold on the chuck and attempt at slicing. Doing
 this I managed
 to get a few slices (that too with cuts and ripples) and after
 which
 the tissue
 just kept cracking and falling into pieces and hence could get no  
 more
 slices.6. In attempt 2-I thought the brain may be too cold and too
 hard
 (perfusion and-80 freezing), so I defrosted the brain for 20
 mins at
 room
 temperature before sticking into -20 cryostat. Between slices if I
 felt the
 tissue was too cold, I put my thumb on the specimen to warm it up.
 Still no
 luck.7. In attempt 3-I defrosted the brain completely to room
 temperature, took
 the brain out of the cryogel embedding (thinking that the mold was
 way too hard
 to cut through and hence cracking the tissue too) and attached it to
 chuck
 directly and tried slicing. Still no luck at all this time around.
 From what I have been reading online and from what I know, I
 primarily feel
 these are issues related with temperature of the brain and that it
 is too cold
 during 

RE: [Histonet] ThermoFisher's PrintMate (cassette printer) and Slide Mate (slide labeler with scanner)

2010-11-15 Thread Laurie Colbert
We are using both.  They both have had their fair share of problems, but
overall I think the improved efficiency is worth working out the kinks.
I recommend both.

Laurie Colbert

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Beil
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:42 AM
To: histonet
Subject: [Histonet] ThermoFisher's PrintMate (cassette printer) and
Slide Mate (slide labeler with scanner)


Hello,

I'm interested in finding out if anyone is using ThermoFisher's  new
PrintMate (cassette printer) and Slide Mate (slide labeler with scanner)
and how they are working out for you.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Damaris
 
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[Histonet] Annual Review of Manuals

2010-11-15 Thread Lester Raff MD
For those of you who work in/manage CAP accredited laboratories, what is
your current understanding/policy in regards to annual review of all
relevant procedure manuals by all personnel? If you no longer do this,
what procedure manual review IS done in your lab?

 

Thanks,

 

Lester J. Raff, MD

Medical Director

UroPartners Laboratory

2225 Enterprise Dr. Suite 2511

Westchester, Il 60154

Tel 708.486.0076

Fax 708.492.0203

 

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[Histonet] prostate biopsies

2010-11-15 Thread Johannes Koepplinger
Can anyone share their processing schedules for prostate biopsies using a
variety of processors? Examples: Sakura VIP, Tissue Tek express, Leica
Peloris, or Thermo Pathcentre?

What is the optimum rapid processing schedule? Do you prefer to use a
certain kind of alcohol?
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[Histonet] Procedure manual review

2010-11-15 Thread Tench, Bill
All procedures must be reviewed annually (and that means WITHIN 12
months, not just once a calender year)
This may be done by the appropriate supervisor or pathologist, not
necessarily the Director (Director must review all new or changed
procedures)
The review should confirm that the procedure in operation matches what
really happens.
The laboratory must have in place a mechanism that demonstrates that the
users of those procedures are familiar with them (and without digging up
the CAP standards, i rely on my memory that this must also be documented
in some format on an annual basis).  I believe we accomplish this with
an annual signed statement from the employees confirming they are
familiar with the procedures they use. 
 
Bill Tench
Associate Dir. Laboratory Services
Chief, Cytology Services
Palomar Medical Center
555 E. Valley Parkway
Escondido, California  92025
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RE: [Histonet] ThermoFisher's PrintMate (cassette printer) and SlideMate (slide labeler with scanner)

2010-11-15 Thread Harrison, Sandra C.
I'm looking at the Slide Mate and Print Mate, too.  Currently, I have
the Leica cassette and slide printers.  They have really been great.
Reliable and relatively problem free.  But they are so large.  I'd like
to find a slide printer that has a small footprint, like the Slide Mate,
so that we can place one at each microtomy station. 
Assuming there are other slide printers out there, besides
ThermoFisher's Slide Mate and Leica's, what are their pro's and con's? 

Sandy Harrison

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Laurie
Colbert
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:29 AM
To: Damaris Beil; histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] ThermoFisher's PrintMate (cassette printer) and
SlideMate (slide labeler with scanner)

We are using both.  They both have had their fair share of problems, but
overall I think the improved efficiency is worth working out the kinks.
I recommend both.

Laurie Colbert

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Damaris
Beil
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:42 AM
To: histonet
Subject: [Histonet] ThermoFisher's PrintMate (cassette printer) and
Slide Mate (slide labeler with scanner)


Hello,

I'm interested in finding out if anyone is using ThermoFisher's  new
PrintMate (cassette printer) and Slide Mate (slide labeler with scanner)
and how they are working out for you.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Damaris
 
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[Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system

2010-11-15 Thread Vanessa Avalos
We are in the process of getting our new Lecia Autostainer delivered to us.
The question came up if we will still need to continue using our water
purification system for the stainer. Mostly the docs would like to save
money but I don't want them to be unhappy with the result.

 

I would like to hear all the pros and cons of discontinuing/continuing the
use of our system and going w/ tap water from the sink. What is the PH level
supposed to test at? What difference will I see in the slides? By the way, I
only stain HE  at the current time but there is a possibility of starting
PAS or other special stains.

 

Thank you in advance!!!

 

V.Avalos

ADS, INC

Fax:602-277-2134

 

 

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[Histonet] glutaraldehyde fixed tissues and genomic DNA

2010-11-15 Thread ejschmid
Hello,

I have PFA+glutaraldehyde fixed tissues that I might want to digest down
in order to extract genomic DNA suitable for bisulfite sequencing.

The tissues are embryonic mouse heads. The fixative is a PFA +
glutaraldehyde mix:  3.6 PFA with 5% glut. The glut is grade 1 or electron
miccroscopy grade.

I'd like to pro-K the tissues and then phenol-chloroform extract genomic DNA.

My hope is that the amount and quality of the DNA will be suitable for
bisulfite conversions for methylation anaylsis. Will the DNA be abundant?
Will it be fairly protein free (does the fixative fix protein to the
DNA?).

Thanks

Eric
University of Calgary
Facutly of Medicine


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RE: [Histonet] ThermoFisher's PrintMate (cassette printer) and SlideMate (slide labeler with scanner)

2010-11-15 Thread Jaime McMillan
I agree with Laurie.  We have seen a great improvement in efficiency and
reduction of errors with this hardware.  We have been using both for a
few months now and have not had many problems.

Jaime McMillan

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:29 AM
To: Damaris Beil; histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] ThermoFisher's PrintMate (cassette printer) and
SlideMate (slide labeler with scanner)

We are using both.  They both have had their fair share of problems, but
overall I think the improved efficiency is worth working out the kinks.
I recommend both.

Laurie Colbert

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Damaris
Beil
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:42 AM
To: histonet
Subject: [Histonet] ThermoFisher's PrintMate (cassette printer) and
Slide Mate (slide labeler with scanner)


Hello,

I'm interested in finding out if anyone is using ThermoFisher's  new
PrintMate (cassette printer) and Slide Mate (slide labeler with scanner)
and how they are working out for you.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Damaris
 
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[Histonet] Non-Refrigerated RPMI/3-in-1 Pap Stain

2010-11-15 Thread Marcia Fisher
I would like to obtain information to order the non-refrigerated RPMI.  And 
does a 3-in-one Pap stain exist?  Someone in a workshop in Seattle said they 
knew about it but couldn't give the exact supplier.  Thank you for your help.  
 
M. Fisher
El Centro Regional Medical Center
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RE: [Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system

2010-11-15 Thread Blazek, Linda
I don't have the Lecia Autostainer but have a Surgipath Tribune stainer.  I 
have it connected to tap water and do both HE and PAS on it.
Linda

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:51 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system

We are in the process of getting our new Lecia Autostainer delivered to us.
The question came up if we will still need to continue using our water
purification system for the stainer. Mostly the docs would like to save
money but I don't want them to be unhappy with the result.

 

I would like to hear all the pros and cons of discontinuing/continuing the
use of our system and going w/ tap water from the sink. What is the PH level
supposed to test at? What difference will I see in the slides? By the way, I
only stain HE  at the current time but there is a possibility of starting
PAS or other special stains.

 

Thank you in advance!!!

 

V.Avalos

ADS, INC

Fax:602-277-2134

 

 

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RE: [Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system

2010-11-15 Thread Weems, Joyce
We use tap water on our Leica. 

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 13:15
To: 'Vanessa Avalos'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system

I don't have the Lecia Autostainer but have a Surgipath Tribune stainer.  I 
have it connected to tap water and do both HE and PAS on it.
Linda

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Vanessa Avalos
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:51 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system

We are in the process of getting our new Lecia Autostainer delivered to us.
The question came up if we will still need to continue using our water 
purification system for the stainer. Mostly the docs would like to save money 
but I don't want them to be unhappy with the result.

 

I would like to hear all the pros and cons of discontinuing/continuing the use 
of our system and going w/ tap water from the sink. What is the PH level 
supposed to test at? What difference will I see in the slides? By the way, I 
only stain HE  at the current time but there is a possibility of starting PAS 
or other special stains.

 

Thank you in advance!!!

 

V.Avalos

ADS, INC

Fax:602-277-2134

 

 

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[Histonet] Slide Mates and Cassette printers

2010-11-15 Thread Rick . Garnhart

We have three of the older six hopper Thermo Micro cassette writers and one 
Thermo slide mate, in addition to four of the Pslims. The Pslims are the
first generation Slide Mate by Accuplace. They are all connected to our APLIS 
System (PowerPath) and  we use 2D bar-codes on our specimen labels,
cassettes and slides.

We do not produce a cassette or slide without wanding a bar-code.

The printed specimen bar codes that generate the cassettes and bar-coded 
cassettes that generate the slides for positive patient identification, out
weighs the manual human method is well worth the effort. This is where all 
histology lab should be moving towards.

 We have some little network issue with them, but for the most part they print 
great. The cassette printers work well. Remember these are mechanical
and computer driven, so they will fail at times.



Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

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Re: [Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system

2010-11-15 Thread Jennifer MacDonald
We always used tap water, without any problems.





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11/15/2010 09:54 AM

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We are in the process of getting our new Lecia Autostainer delivered to 
us.
The question came up if we will still need to continue using our water
purification system for the stainer. Mostly the docs would like to save
money but I don't want them to be unhappy with the result.

 

I would like to hear all the pros and cons of discontinuing/continuing the
use of our system and going w/ tap water from the sink. What is the PH 
level
supposed to test at? What difference will I see in the slides? By the way, 
I
only stain HE  at the current time but there is a possibility of starting
PAS or other special stains.

 

Thank you in advance!!!

 

V.Avalos

ADS, INC

Fax:602-277-2134

 

 

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[Histonet] pathologists

2010-11-15 Thread Johannes Koepplinger
Would any of the pathologists or histotechs know what the average volume of
work for a urology pathologist would be for a given day? How many
slides/cases is a comfortable workload for one day of reading, say in regard
to prostate biopsies or bladder biopsy cases (excluding vas deferens)? Also
including immunos if any.
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[Histonet] IHC Mohs

2010-11-15 Thread akin...@txplan.com

Hi Everyone!!

I need advise on getting started with IHC on Mohs sections! 

Vendors, automated vs by hand, antibodiesanything and everything will 
be s greatly appreciated.

Please and Thank You in advance!!
 
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[Histonet] RE:Tap Water or filtration system

2010-11-15 Thread Margaryan, Naira
What if we suggest to use ddH2O both for TBST preparation and in autostainers 
(before and after IHC) because the PH level is vary in different states.



Naira

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We are in the process of getting our new Lecia Autostainer delivered to us.

The question came up if we will still need to continue using our water

purification system for the stainer. Mostly the docs would like to save

money but I don't want them to be unhappy with the result.



I would like to hear all the pros and cons of discontinuing/continuing the

use of our system and going w/ tap water from the sink. What is the PH level

supposed to test at? What difference will I see in the slides? By the way, I

only stain HE  at the current time but there is a possibility of starting

PAS or other special stains.



Thank you in advance!!!

V.Avalos

ADS, INC

Fax:602-277-2134
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RE: [Histonet] pathologists

2010-11-15 Thread Troyer, Dean A.
It is important to understand details of slide preparation. We prepare six 
levels of each block/ each glass slide. 
A case is prostate biopsies from one patient.  85% of the time we get two 
biopsy cores per container and thus two cores per block, and 12 cores total per 
case.
 
A busy day is 12 biopsy cases, 6 slides each, with six levels of each block 
(containing two biopsy cores) on each slide).
 
I am aware that some pathologists deal with as many as 20 prostate biopsy cases 
per day.  The detail of how the slides are prepared and screened can differ 
from place to place.  The experience of the pathologist also affects 
throughput.  
 
The only measure we really have of QA is prevalence (i.e. are we missing 
cases).  
 
Prevalence of prostate cancer in cases varies surprisingly ranging from high 
20s to high 45%.  I've been in two different sites in which 45-50% of cases are 
positive.  The patient population being screened and biopsied obviously would 
impact the prevalence rate.
 
 
Dean Troyer
 
 



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Koepplinger
Sent: Mon 11/15/2010 3:19 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] pathologists



Would any of the pathologists or histotechs know what the average volume of
work for a urology pathologist would be for a given day? How many
slides/cases is a comfortable workload for one day of reading, say in regard
to prostate biopsies or bladder biopsy cases (excluding vas deferens)? Also
including immunos if any.
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[Histonet] Control sections for frozen sections

2010-11-15 Thread Diana McCaig
Does anyone run a  HE control prior to staining a frozen section?
 
Diana
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RE: [Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system

2010-11-15 Thread Tony Henwood
We use tap water and have had no problems.

Sydney tap water seems to be quite innocuous

Regards

Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC)
Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
the children's hospital at westmead 
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead 
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA 




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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Avalos
Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2010 4:51 AM
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Subject: [Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system


We are in the process of getting our new Lecia Autostainer delivered to
us. The question came up if we will still need to continue using our
water purification system for the stainer. Mostly the docs would like to
save money but I don't want them to be unhappy with the result.

 

I would like to hear all the pros and cons of discontinuing/continuing
the use of our system and going w/ tap water from the sink. What is the
PH level supposed to test at? What difference will I see in the slides?
By the way, I only stain HE  at the current time but there is a
possibility of starting PAS or other special stains.

 

Thank you in advance!!!

 

V.Avalos

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RE: [Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system

2010-11-15 Thread Feher, Stephen
We use tap water in our Leica multistainer for HE's and a few other
stains.  The protocols can be optimized to accommodate what ever you are
using. I can't speak to the PAS stain except to say that even if you
need deionized water, you can buy it in 5 gallon cubes for limited use
and still save money.


Steve

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Vanessa
Avalos
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:51 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Tap Water or filtration system

We are in the process of getting our new Lecia Autostainer delivered to
us.
The question came up if we will still need to continue using our water
purification system for the stainer. Mostly the docs would like to save
money but I don't want them to be unhappy with the result.

 

I would like to hear all the pros and cons of discontinuing/continuing
the use of our system and going w/ tap water from the sink. What is the
PH level supposed to test at? What difference will I see in the slides?
By the way, I only stain HE  at the current time but there is a
possibility of starting PAS or other special stains.

 

Thank you in advance!!!

 

V.Avalos

ADS, INC

Fax:602-277-2134

 

 

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Re: [Histonet] Cardboard slide flat storage

2010-11-15 Thread histot...@imagesbyhopper.com
Hi Meghan,

We use grey colored boxes that will hold either 8 cardboard drawers of blocks 
or 4 cardboard drawers of slides.  I am at home right now,  don't have the 
specific ordering information, but will share it tomorrow when I get to work.  
I just didn't want to let the question languish w/o some sort of response!

Michelle

On Nov 15, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Meghan Tucker meghan.tuc...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Good morning,
  
 Are there any suggestions on a place to order a storage shelf for cardboard 
 slide flats, which may have 6-8 'cubbies' that can be used to organize the 
 flats?
  
 Thanks!
  
 Meghan
  
 meghan.tuc...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
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