[Histonet] preference: fat stains

2011-05-06 Thread Michelle Perrins
Hello
 
I would like your views on which provides the better result regarding
fat stains.
1. fat stains (Oil red O, etc) on frozen sections
2. osmium tetroxide on formalin fixed tissue
 
I know that osmium is nasty to work with but besides that does it
produce a better result?
 
Thanks
 
Michelle 
 
 
Michelle Perrins
Chief Medical Technologist
Forensic Pathology Services
Division Forensic Medicine 
Faculty Health Sciences
University of Cape Town
 
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Re: [Histonet] Safety glasses required for embedding

2011-05-06 Thread Angela Bitting
We went round with a Safety Dept. employee when I first started here
about gloves for embedding. Couldn't convince him that we didn't need to
wear them. 

 Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com 5/5/2011 3:46 PM 
No.
Rerné J.

From: Cindy DeRiso cindy.der...@yale.edu
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Safety glasses required for embedding

I am not sure if this has come up before, but does anyone require
personnel to wear safety glasses when embedding and if so is there an
OSHA policy? Thanks
Cindy

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RE: [Histonet] ASCP Route 2 HT Certification

2011-05-06 Thread Patsy Ruegg
Eric,

I feel your pain.  I too find it difficult to get any help from ASCP, they
are happy to take your money for application fees but the customer service
is definitely lacking.  I have to remember to reup for my QIHC every five
years because they send me no notice of it being due, and once I send in my
CEU's and $$ I never hear back from them to say they received them and that
I am requalified.  The only way I know they got it is when the check or cc
bill posts to my account.  That is no way to be in my opinion.

I am sure that your money for applying is an ap fee and will not be returned
even if you end up not qualifying to sit for the exam.

I had 3 techs get registered in the last couple of years with different
levels of education.  One had an associates degree with the required number
of hours in chemistry and biology.  One did not have the AA degree but did
have some more advanced courses in chemistry and biology working towards her
BS degree and the third has a BS in Biology and has had advance biology and
chemistry courses.  None of them had any trouble qualifying educationally,
and I do not know if they required at least a C in the course, they all had
to send their transcripts but they didn't have any problems.

Cheers,

Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
IHCtech
12635 Montview Blvd. Ste.215
Aurora, CO 80045
720-859-4060
fax 720-859-4110
www.ihctech.net 
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rathborne,
Toni
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:12 AM
To: 'Eric Velazquez'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] ASCP Route 2 HT Certification

You could email them. It would not be so time consuming, and then you would
have proof of an answer should anything be questioned at a later date. Good
luck.

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Eric
Velazquez
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:52 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] ASCP Route 2 HT Certification

Thank you for responding. I agree with you that the ASCP would be the best
source of information, but unfortunately I spoke with someone who was in
charge of reviewing the applications. She was unprofessional and offered
little assistance. I will attempt to contact them again, but finding the
time to be placed on hold for 30mins while I am at work is difficult. I was
hoping someone would know from experience or perhaps someone who is involved
with the process would be able to offer some guidance.
-Eric


On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Nails, Felton
flna...@texaschildrens.orgwrote:

 Your best answer will come from ASCP so contact them directly. The 
 number should be on the application

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 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:
 histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Velazquez
 Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:37 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] ASCP Route 2 HT Certification

 Hi,

 I was hoping someone could help me with the following questions:

 1) What happens to the money if I were to submit my transcript and my 
 fees for the exam and end up not qualifying? Do I lose my money or is 
 it credited for when I do qualify?
 2) How do I determine what classes are considered BIO and Chem? Does 
 the prefix for the course ID have to contain BIO or Chem?
 3) Can the courses taken be similar? Example: School A: I took Chem10:
 Intro to Chemistry  School B: Chm:3 Chemistry basics. If these 
 classes are interchangeable between schools do they still count or 
 does it have to be a more difficult chemistry course for it to qualify?
 4)Is there anyway to check if you do qualify before paying exam fees?
 5)Do you have to pass the class with a C or higher? I took a BIO class 
 years ago and received a D, but I was given the credited hours for the 
 course.


 Route 2 for HT certification for ASCP
 At least 60 semester hours (90 quarter hours) of academic credit from 
 a regionally accredited college/university, with a combination of 12 
 semester hours (18 quarter hours) of biology and chemistry, or an 
 associate degree from a regionally accredited college/university, with 
 a combination of 12 semester hours (18 quarter hours) of biology and 
 chemistry, AND one year full time acceptable experience in a 
 histopathology (clinical, veterinary, industry or research) laboratory 
 in the U.S., Canada or an accredited
 laboratory* within the last ten years.

 Thanks,
 Eric
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RE: [Histonet] preference: fat stains

2011-05-06 Thread Liz Chlipala
Michelle

We use osmium all of the time, we find it works better for image
analysis than the Oil Red O.  

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, Colorado 80308
office (303) 682-3949 
fax (303) 682-9060
www.premierlab.com
 
 
Ship to Address:
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Longmont, Colorado 80504

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michelle
Perrins
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 7:07 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] preference: fat stains

Hello
 
I would like your views on which provides the better result regarding
fat stains.
1. fat stains (Oil red O, etc) on frozen sections
2. osmium tetroxide on formalin fixed tissue
 
I know that osmium is nasty to work with but besides that does it
produce a better result?
 
Thanks
 
Michelle 
 
 
Michelle Perrins
Chief Medical Technologist
Forensic Pathology Services
Division Forensic Medicine 
Faculty Health Sciences
University of Cape Town
 
tel: +27 21 406 6001
fax: +27 21 448 1249
Email: michelle.perr...@uct.ac.za


 

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[Histonet] RE: NSH Symposium/Convention Registration

2011-05-06 Thread Carrie Diamond
Good afternoon -

Paper copies of the 37th Annual Symposium/Convention Registration Brochure are 
currently at the press. Copies will be mailed to all NSH Members within the 
next two weeks. The complete program is available online through the following 
link. 
http://s3.goeshow.com/nsh/annual/2011/schedule_at_a_glance.cfm

If you wish to mail your registration form, you can print the official 
registration form from the link below and send it to the NSH.
http://s3.goeshow.com/nsh/annual/2011/PDF/SCRegForm.pdf

Please feel free to call the office at 443-535-4060 or email us at 
hi...@nsh.org with any questions. We hope to see you in Cincinnati!

Have a great weekend. 


Carrie Diamond
Executive Director
National Society for Histotechnology
10320 Little Patuxent Parkway
Suite 804
Columbia, MD 21044
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[Histonet] Safety Glasses during Embedding

2011-05-06 Thread Marcia Fisher
Please site the reference for this  requirement.  Thank you.

Marcia Fisher
Histology Supervisor/Lab Safety Officer
El Centro Regional Medical Center
1415 Ross Ave
El Centro, CA  92243
760-339-7267
760-482-5365(F)
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Re: [Histonet] Safety glasses required for embedding

2011-05-06 Thread Lee Peggy Wenk
OSHA standard for Eye and Face Protection 29CFR1910.133 says that 
appropriate eye or face protection is required whenever there is a 
possibility of injury from:

- flying particles (includes dust (for histotechs, thinks dry dye powders))
- molten metal
- liquid chemicals
- acid or caustic liquids
- chemical gases or vapors
- potentially injurious light radiation (e.g.., UV) (need UV lenses)
- processes that produce aerosols of infectious agents

OSHA standard for Personal Protective Equipment 29CFR1910.132 says that 
employers must provide and ensure employees wear PPE whenever there is 
exposure to hazards that can cause injury, that are:

- physical
- chemical
- biological

This could be through inhalation, absorption or physical contact. PPE 
include for face/head/eyes, extremities, respirators, as needed, in good 
condition and fit. So safety glasses fall under this standard, also.


So unless you have flying particles of tissue hitting your eyes during 
embedding, or fine mist of infectious aerosols coming off the tissues while 
embedding, I would say that OSHA does not require safety glasses during 
embedding.


Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, MI 48073

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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Safety glasses required for embedding

I am not sure if this has come up before, but does anyone require 
personnel to wear safety glasses when embedding and if so is there an OSHA 
policy? Thanks

Cindy

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RE: [Histonet] removing MMA

2011-05-06 Thread Jack Ratliff

Bernice,
 
Let me start by first stating that it is easier to melt away the wax from a 
paraffin block and then go into resin (MMA), than doing it as you have asked. 
With that said, it has been my experience that this is very difficult to do, 
but somewhat possible depending upon what you wish to accomplish. The 
difficulty is dissolving the interior of the specimen that has been completely 
infiltrated/polymerized and doing so without disrupting the specimen 
morphology. In fact, dissolving away the exterior takes a lot of time, 
patience, and solvent. Additionally, you risk changes in morphology, especially 
on the surface because now everything is loosely supported and the bone will 
start to become more brittle due to drying with use of the solvent to 
deplastify.
 
Now to answer your question simply, like dissolves like. If you decide to try 
this, I recommend to use fresh changes of 100% MMA with agitation to help 
dissolve away the exterior. As the solution becomes thickened from the 
deplastification, pour out and start again with fresh 100% MMA. You will need 
to repeat this process SEVERAL times. Take care not to let your dissolving 
attempts sit too long (overnight in small amount of solvent) or the solution 
will start to repolymerize. Basically, the resin will become thick in solution 
as it is dissolving and settle to the bottom. After a prolonged period of time 
the thicker layers on the bottom with start to repolymerize slowly. Therefore, 
before you begin I suggest that you first cut and grind away any excess resin 
to help you reduce both time and money with the amount of MMA solvent you will 
waste. A note of caution, acetone will also work but it will damage your 
specimen over time, so I DO NOT recommend using it. Patience and lots of 100% 
MMA!
 
Regarding the 50um slides, try Sanderson's Rapid Bone Stain (Dorn and Hart 
Microedge) and counter with Van Gieson picrofuchsin.
 
Let me know if you have any additional questions and feel free to call me 
(317-281-1975) if you would like to talk over the phone.
 
Best Regards,
 
Jack
 
PS If this project is for Mahesh, tell him I said hello! :)

  
 
 From: b-freder...@northwestern.edu
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:15:29 -0500
 Subject: [Histonet] removing MMA
 
 We have a piece of bone in MMA. The researcher wants us to get It out and do
 paraffin. Is it possible? What will melt the MMA?
 
 We also have some 50um slides cut ,that they want to see blood vessels and
 collagen. Am I going to be able to do an EVG and trichrome or will the
 plastic inhibit this process?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bernice
 
 
 
 Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
 
 Senior Research Tech
 
 Pathology Core Facility
 
 ECOGPCO-RL
 
 Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center
 
 Northwestern University
 
 710 N Fairbanks Court
 
 Olson 8-421
 
 Chicago,IL 60611
 
 312-503-3723
 
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RE: [Histonet] Safety glasses required for embedding

2011-05-06 Thread Stacy McLaughlin
Flying particles can happen during embedding.  I have seen molten
paraffin splash someone in the eye from opening of the cassette lids.
The paraffin then solidified when it hit the eye ball and the eyewash
did not wash it out.  They had to have it physically removed.

This seems to be up for interpretation by the regs.  

Stacy McLaughlin, HT(ASCP)
Lead Histology Technician/Laboratory Safety
Cooley Dickinson Hospital
30 Locust Street
Northampton, MA 01060
(413)582-2019
stacy_mclaugh...@cooley-dickinson.org

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee 
Peggy Wenk
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:49 PM
To: cindy.der...@yale.edu; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Safety glasses required for embedding

OSHA standard for Eye and Face Protection 29CFR1910.133 says that 
appropriate eye or face protection is required whenever there is a 
possibility of injury from:
- flying particles (includes dust (for histotechs, thinks dry dye
powders))
- molten metal
- liquid chemicals
- acid or caustic liquids
- chemical gases or vapors
- potentially injurious light radiation (e.g.., UV) (need UV lenses)
- processes that produce aerosols of infectious agents

OSHA standard for Personal Protective Equipment 29CFR1910.132 says that 
employers must provide and ensure employees wear PPE whenever there is 
exposure to hazards that can cause injury, that are:
- physical
- chemical
- biological

This could be through inhalation, absorption or physical contact. PPE 
include for face/head/eyes, extremities, respirators, as needed, in good

condition and fit. So safety glasses fall under this standard, also.

So unless you have flying particles of tissue hitting your eyes during 
embedding, or fine mist of infectious aerosols coming off the tissues
while 
embedding, I would say that OSHA does not require safety glasses during 
embedding.

Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, MI 48073

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From: Cindy DeRiso cindy.der...@yale.edu
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:11 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Safety glasses required for embedding

 I am not sure if this has come up before, but does anyone require 
 personnel to wear safety glasses when embedding and if so is there an
OSHA 
 policy? Thanks
 Cindy

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Re: [Histonet] ASCP Route 2 HT Certification

2011-05-06 Thread Lee Peggy Wenk
I'll try to explain what I know, based on working with my students in my 
NAACLS HT and HTL programs. So I do NOT speak for ASCP BOC (Board of 
Certification). Don't say Well, Peggy said so. Doesn't help with my 
students and ASCP, so won't help with anyone else. (HISTONETTERS: If not 
interested in ASCP BOC, click DELETE now.)


Answers to your Questions:
1. APPLICATION FEE: According to step #3 in the on-line procedure
http://www.ascp.org/FunctionalNavigation/certification/GetCertified.aspx

And on page 3 of the handbook
http://www.ascp.org/pdf/BOR-PDFs/procedures/Examination-Procedures.aspx

And on the PDF application form:
http://www.ascp.org/pdf/BOR-PDFs/procedures/General-application-form.aspx

The application free is non-refundable.  (I'll explain why at the bottom of 
this, if you are interested.)


2. BIO/CHEM COURSES: ASCP will look for BIO or CHEM to see if an applicant 
took the right courses. But they will also look at the TITLE of the course, 
knowing there are other majors. Example: MLS = medical laboratory science. 
AH = Allied health. RT = radiation therapy. And so on - all of which have 
biology and chemistry courses that would be acceptable.


3. IDENTICAL COURSES: I don't know how close the courses have to be, 
before ASCP BOC won't count them. I would say, if you took a class at 
college A, then transferred to college B, and college B used that class from 
college A to say it was the same as one of their (college B) course, so you 
didn't have to take or pay for the college B course, then I would say that 
this one course was equal to only 1 course. even though it showed up as two 
different courses (after all, only one course was attended, exam taken, paid 
for, etc.). If you took one course at A and one course at B, and both show 
up as separate courses, then my feeling is that they are two different 
courses.


(A little off to the side, the requirements for HT are 12 semester hours of 
biology and chemistry combined. That's 1 bio and 2 chem courses (4 credits 
each), or 2 bio and 1 chem course (4 credits each). NOT 12 credits of bio 
AND 12 credits of chem. That seems to be a common mistake.)


5. GRADE: I see nothing in the ASCP BOC HT requirements of a minimum grade 
point.


4. CHECKING BEFORE APPLYING: Now, as to whether there is any way to check 
before applying and sending in the fee - not really.


I appreciate that you are trying to find out if you qualify, before you send 
in the application, fees and transcript. So the following is not directed 
towards you, personally. You had some good questions, like, do grades count 
(since the website doesn't say anything about it).


The following is about why, in general, ASCP can't answer individual 
questions of applicants.


Realize that thousands of people apply to the ASCP BOC for all the 
disciplines, each year. (In 2010, over 12,500 people took the various 
certification exams.) It is up to the applicant to decide, based on the 
criteria on-line and in the booklet and application form, if they meet all 
the criteria to take the exam. ASCP will NOT issue a decision over the phone 
or by email, before the person applies. If there is a little confusion (such 
as the 12 credit hours of bio/chem and what does that mean?), they will 
explain. But they will NOT talk about each person's transcript, work 
experience, etc. over the phone. They don't have the time. And until they 
see the transcript, they only have the person's word over the phone as to 
what the transcript says. And then there is the but ASCP said over the 
phone, when maybe they did or didn't say, or there was a misunderstanding 
on one or both sides. How do you prove what was verbally said?


I run a NAACLS HT and HTL program, hospital based, I get lots of people 
calling up, wanting to know if they qualify. Yet my webpage states very 
clearly what the criteria is (degree, required courses, GPA, etc.), but lots 
of people call up, wanting exceptions. I will not talk about whether their 
classes meet the criteria or not. If they want this type of information, 
then they have to submit the application material, pay our programs' $40 
application fee, and then I will look over their transcript(s) and will be 
willing to talk with them afterwards. Most of the time, the people who are 
calling know that do NOT meet the criteria, but want me spend 30 minutes or 
more on the phone with them, trying to talk me into reducing my requirements 
(not needing a degree, only having half the required courses, not having a 
3.0 GPA, etc.). They already know they don't meet the criteria. But they 
want an exception. By my telling them that they have to submit all the 
required documentation first, with the application fee, before I will decide 
if they qualify or not, I have reduced the non-qualified people from 
applying. In the past, over half the applicants who applied to my programs 
were not qualified. But I would have to take the time to talk with them on 
the phone, look 

Re: [Histonet] removing MMA

2011-05-06 Thread Bryan Llewellyn
Years ago when I had to remove plexiglass rods from eyes, I used 
chloroform. It takes a few days, but methyl methacrylate dissolves in 
chloroform quite well. In fact, plexiglass containers for medical museum 
specimens are cemented together with MMA dissolved in chloroform.


Bryan Llewellyn


Bernice Frederick wrote:

We have a piece of bone in MMA. The researcher wants us to get It out and do
paraffin. Is it possible? What will melt the MMA?

We also have some 50um slides cut ,that they want to see blood vessels and
collagen. Am I going to be able to do an EVG and trichrome or will the
plastic inhibit this process?

Thanks,

Bernice



Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)

Senior Research Tech

Pathology Core Facility

ECOGPCO-RL

Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center

Northwestern University

710 N Fairbanks Court

Olson 8-421

Chicago,IL 60611

312-503-3723

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Re: [Histonet] removing MMA

2011-05-06 Thread Bob Nienhuis
We use acetone to dissolve MMA from implants. Don't know what that would do
to tissue.

Bob

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Bernice Frederick 
b-freder...@northwestern.edu wrote:

 We have a piece of bone in MMA. The researcher wants us to get It out and
 do
 paraffin. Is it possible? What will melt the MMA?

 We also have some 50um slides cut ,that they want to see blood vessels and
 collagen. Am I going to be able to do an EVG and trichrome or will the
 plastic inhibit this process?

 Thanks,

 Bernice



 Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)

 Senior Research Tech

 Pathology Core Facility

 ECOGPCO-RL

 Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center

 Northwestern University

 710 N Fairbanks Court

 Olson 8-421

 Chicago,IL 60611

 312-503-3723

  mailto:b-freder...@northwestern.edu b-freder...@northwestern.edu



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[Histonet] Re: Removing MMA

2011-05-06 Thread Damien Laudier
Hi Bernice,



If you have any intentions of putting this sample on an enclosed tissue
processor for paraffin infiltration, after methacrylate removal, you must
remove every trace of methyl methacrylate monomer. Traces (even small
traces) of methacrylate monomer can wreck havoc on most enclosed tissue
processor solvent-transfer lines and pump gaskets; you could end up  with a
very expensive repair bill. For transferring into paraffin, you’re better
off treating these samples as you would treat a section you wish to
deplasticize. Assuming your sample was properly fixed and processed from the
beginning, xylene or toluene will do the job of breaking down the
polymerized methacrylate just fine.  Once the trimmed-down block has
dissolved down, several more changes are required to remove the methacrylate
and avoid potential carryover danger. As an additional safeguard, I would
take the sample back to 200 proof ethanol or 100% reagent ethanol for a
couple of changes  then start the paraffin infiltration process with the
last ethanol step on your processor. If you need to decalcify this sample,
then you can just continue on back to water and start from the beginning.
Yes, you can do any tinctorial stain on your ground sections if etched well
beforehand.



-Damien L.
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[Histonet] hematoxylin washed off

2011-05-06 Thread anuradha shrivastava
Hello Every body,
We changed the solutions testerday in the processor, and today Dr. complained 
about pale hematoxylin. Can u suggest what is wrong.
thanks.
anu.
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