Re: [Histonet] Unregistered techs

2012-05-26 Thread Rick Tiefenauer
Histonetters,

I see this subject tends to illicit strong sentiments from
professionals who are impacted or have an impact on HT/HTL's (sort of
everyone on the net)?.

I am still in school, but I want to fully understand how training,
certification, and registration work for HT/HTL’s.  I realize that
ASCP certification is voluntary, and that some States require some
sort of license or certification, but I’ve never heard of a “Registry”
for HT/HTL’s.

-The way I understand through what I’ve been taught at school is that
Histology is the study of tissue, And that...

-To study tissue there is another science that prepares specimens so
they can be studied. And that...

-There is a final sequence “Quality Control” that verifies the science
that prpares specimens is properly done so the tissue can be studied.
And that…

In order for this all to happen successfully and consistently, the
HT/HTL's make sure that during the whole preparation process, safety
is observed, proper adherence to federal and state regulations
maintained, plus train other technicians to do the same, and much
more.

If I understood it all correctly I can’t help but wonder:

If HT/HTL's do all of this crucial preparation work to make sure
specimens are acceptable for precise microscopic identification of
cells, tissue type, diagnosis of disease, and other needs:

Why wouldn't we want to have some method that can gage a set of basic
skills to indicate a level of competency that HT/HTL's should
initially have, in order to enter the field of work that can effect so
many people either directly or indirectly?

And also... Wouldn’t having NAACLS accredited training and ASCP
Certifications serve to gage those basic skills?

And also… Would gaging basic skills have a positive impact on the
quality of patient care and the efficiency of the HT/HTL’s impact on
labs?”

I'm not sure but...this fall… when I complete my NAACLS accredited
degree program, and voluntarily take the ASCP HTL certification exam,
my future employer will be able to expect a certain level of
competency that I hope to have established through training and
certification.

Rick T.

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RE: [Histonet] Unregistered techs

2012-05-26 Thread Davide Costanzo
Well said. Everyone should aim for certification. Those that don't will
offer myriad excuses, but it should be the standard. With any luck it
will be required one day (likely will). Whether OJT or college trained,
all should prove competency and the best way is through ASCP
certification.

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From: Rick Tiefenauer
Sent: 5/26/2012 9:52 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Unregistered techs
Histonetters,

I see this subject tends to illicit strong sentiments from
professionals who are impacted or have an impact on HT/HTL's (sort of
everyone on the net)?.

I am still in school, but I want to fully understand how training,
certification, and registration work for HT/HTL’s.  I realize that
ASCP certification is voluntary, and that some States require some
sort of license or certification, but I’ve never heard of a “Registry”
for HT/HTL’s.

-The way I understand through what I’ve been taught at school is that
Histology is the study of tissue, And that...

-To study tissue there is another science that prepares specimens so
they can be studied. And that...

-There is a final sequence “Quality Control” that verifies the science
that prpares specimens is properly done so the tissue can be studied.
And that…

In order for this all to happen successfully and consistently, the
HT/HTL's make sure that during the whole preparation process, safety
is observed, proper adherence to federal and state regulations
maintained, plus train other technicians to do the same, and much
more.

If I understood it all correctly I can’t help but wonder:

If HT/HTL's do all of this crucial preparation work to make sure
specimens are acceptable for precise microscopic identification of
cells, tissue type, diagnosis of disease, and other needs:

Why wouldn't we want to have some method that can gage a set of basic
skills to indicate a level of competency that HT/HTL's should
initially have, in order to enter the field of work that can effect so
many people either directly or indirectly?

And also... Wouldn’t having NAACLS accredited training and ASCP
Certifications serve to gage those basic skills?

And also… Would gaging basic skills have a positive impact on the
quality of patient care and the efficiency of the HT/HTL’s impact on
labs?”

I'm not sure but...this fall… when I complete my NAACLS accredited
degree program, and voluntarily take the ASCP HTL certification exam,
my future employer will be able to expect a certain level of
competency that I hope to have established through training and
certification.

Rick T.

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AW: [Histonet] certification of histotechnologists

2012-05-26 Thread Gudrun Lang
Hi Jackie,
I didn't read the whole topic posted, perhaps there's a repeat in my answer.
German training as MTA (medical technical assistent) includes histology
and histotechnolgy. So they are definitly certified in their profession with
a diploma. I think this kind of education is rather similar to the Canadian
way. Also in Austria, where I come from, we have the training as Biomedical
Scientist in the third education sector, now ending with a Bachelor and
thesis, with theoretical and practical histotechnology.
Theoretically there exists a law that excludes working with patients'
clinical specimens to our profession. But like everywhere cheaper persons
are trained on the job and supervised by hopefully one BMS. If a pathologist
takes the responsibility he may employ anyone, although he/she has not the
specified technical training (doctor and employer).
The registration is another issue. People taking care of patients of any
profession should be registered, because on one hand the profession and on
the other hand patients should be protected against bad lab practice.

Gudrun 

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Im Auftrag von Jackie
O'Connor
Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Mai 2012 18:03
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Betreff: Re: [Histonet] certification of histotechnologists


I have a new topic along this thread - seems to be generating a lot of
interest.  What, if any, histology group, such as NSH in the US - is
available in Europe?   Or any other support group for that matter.  I have
colleagues in Germany who would greatly benefit from being able to interact
with other histotechs who are closer than ME. (Chicago area)  Any
suggestions will be appreciated.  Also, are there certifying agencies out
there like ASCP here?
Jackie O'


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From: Edwards, Richard E. r...@leicester.ac.uk
To: 'Janet Keeping' keeping.ja...@gmail.com; histonet
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 7:36 am
Subject: RE: [Histonet] certification of histotechnologists


Same in UK, I have never understood why  the separation in the  Land of the
Free.

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
On Behalf Of Janet Keeping
Sent: 25 May 2012 12:38
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] certification of histotechnologists

Just curious if  any consideration has been given to including
Histotechnology in your medical laboratory programs as we do in Canada? our
graduates are certified for 5 different careers and shortages in one
particular laboratory does not seem to be a problem.
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