[Histonet] techniques for archaeological bone

2012-07-24 Thread Louise Renton
Hi all...

Had someone in here who is interested in sectioning old bones - any ideas
as to what would be the best embedding medium? These are bones from a
graveyard more than 100 years old - not fossils.

Decal is out of the question - so it would have to be a resin of some sort.
Tips, ideas, contacts  and methods would be very welcome at this stage

-- 
Louise Renton
Bone Research Unit
University of the Witwatersrand
Johannesburg
South Africa
+27 11 717 2298 (tel  fax)
073 5574456 (emergencies only)
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Re: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?

2012-07-24 Thread Eva Permaul
I understand the point about the biotin and I should have said that when
using the ABC method we have taken to always using an avidin/biotin
blocking kit. We are using biotinylated secondary antibodies from Vector. I
have seen the same problem occur in our anti-mouse, anti-rabbit and
anti-goat. In my last run I had stomach fundus as well as skin melanoma,
both had pos.nuclei in the negative (no primary). In another run I had
colon ca and breast ca, the breast ca had fewer pos. nuclei than the colon
ca but they were still there. Some days the positive nuclei are stronger in
a sample that was just weakly positive before. Just want to understand what
it is and what effects it.
Thank you all for your ideas.
Eva Permaul
Georgetown University

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Tony Henwood (SCHN) 
tony.henw...@health.nsw.gov.au wrote:

 I should have added that this was from the workshop notes on a
 Hypotheticals Workshop I ran last year at our Australian National Meeting.

 Regards
 Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
 Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
 Tel: 612 9845 3306
 Fax: 612 9845 3318
 the children's hospital at westmead
 Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
 Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA


 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:
 histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Henwood
 (SCHN)
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 9:00 AM
 To: 'Eva Permaul'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?

 It is possible that this is due to Biotin nuclei where excess biotin is
 found in the nuclei of some cells, see below:

 Optically clear nuclei have been reported in endometrial epithelium
 associated with first and second trimester abortions (Sickel  di
 Sant'Agnese 1994). Optically clear nuclei have also been found in different
 types of tissues of diverse organs such as ovary, thyroid and lung
 (Nakatani et al 1994, Mount  Cooper 2001). The optically clear nuclei
 contain excess biotin.

 Endogenous biotin immunoreactivity is generally not visualized in formalin
 fixed, paraffin-embedded tissues unless a heat-induced antigen retrieval
 step has been introduced (Mount  Cooper 2001).

 In this placental section, optically clear nuclei (containing biotin) bind
 to the streptavidin of the ABC technique giving a reaction similar to that
 seen with CMV containing cells. If a polymer method (or even the original
 Sternberger's PAP method) is used then this anomalous staining will
 disappear, thus allowing confident demonstration of CMV infected nuclei.

 The false-positive staining pattern caused by endogenous biotin can be
 cytoplasmic or nuclear. A report of positive immunoreactivity of
 hepatocellular carcinomas for inhibin was later determined to be a
 false-positive finding due to cytoplasmic endogenous biotin. Steroid cell
 tumours of the ovary were found to demonstrate endogenous biotin
 cytoplasmic staining in 36% of cases. Immunoreactivity for anti-Herpes
 virus immunohistochemical staining in a series of endometria was also later
 determined to be a false-positive result due to biotin. The prominent
 intranuclear inclusions, resembling herpes virus cytopathic effect, were
 caused by intranuclear biotin and not viral particles. Similar false
 positive staining for CMV in products of conception has also been reported
 (Mount  Cooper 2001).

 False-positive staining can be cytoplasmic or nuclear. When cytoplasmic,
 the appearance of the false signal is that of a dull brown granular or
 fluffy staining pattern. If this quality of staining is observed with
 several different antibodies, endogenous staining by biotin should be
 considered. When nuclear, a false-positive reaction may be associated with
 optically clear nuclei identified on HE stained sections. False-positive
 staining due to endogenous biotin, however, does not occur in a cell
 membrane pattern (Mount  Cooper 2001).

 Mount SL  Cooper K (2001) Beware of biotin: a source of false-positive
 immunohistochemistry Current Diagnostic Pathology  7:161-167.
 Nakatani et al (1994) Am J Surg Pathol 18(6):637-642.
 Sickel  di Sant'Agnese (1994) Arch Pathol Lab Med 118:831-833


 Regards
 Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
 Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
 Tel: 612 9845 3306
 Fax: 612 9845 3318
 the children's hospital at westmead
 Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead Locked Bag 4001,
 Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA

 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:
 histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Eva Permaul
 Sent: Monday, 23 July 2012 11:40 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?

 Hello,

 I have noticed that our biotinylated secondary antibodies on occasion
 cause nuclear staining in some samples. 

Re: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?

2012-07-24 Thread Kim Donadio
Are you getting false positives and variations on the same control tissue for 
different days ? 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Eva Permaul e...@georgetown.edu wrote:

 I understand the point about the biotin and I should have said that when
 using the ABC method we have taken to always using an avidin/biotin
 blocking kit. We are using biotinylated secondary antibodies from Vector. I
 have seen the same problem occur in our anti-mouse, anti-rabbit and
 anti-goat. In my last run I had stomach fundus as well as skin melanoma,
 both had pos.nuclei in the negative (no primary). In another run I had
 colon ca and breast ca, the breast ca had fewer pos. nuclei than the colon
 ca but they were still there. Some days the positive nuclei are stronger in
 a sample that was just weakly positive before. Just want to understand what
 it is and what effects it.
 Thank you all for your ideas.
 Eva Permaul
 Georgetown University
 
 On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Tony Henwood (SCHN) 
 tony.henw...@health.nsw.gov.au wrote:
 
 I should have added that this was from the workshop notes on a
 Hypotheticals Workshop I ran last year at our Australian National Meeting.
 
 Regards
 Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
 Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
 Tel: 612 9845 3306
 Fax: 612 9845 3318
 the children's hospital at westmead
 Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
 Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:
 histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Henwood
 (SCHN)
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 9:00 AM
 To: 'Eva Permaul'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?
 
 It is possible that this is due to Biotin nuclei where excess biotin is
 found in the nuclei of some cells, see below:
 
 Optically clear nuclei have been reported in endometrial epithelium
 associated with first and second trimester abortions (Sickel  di
 Sant'Agnese 1994). Optically clear nuclei have also been found in different
 types of tissues of diverse organs such as ovary, thyroid and lung
 (Nakatani et al 1994, Mount  Cooper 2001). The optically clear nuclei
 contain excess biotin.
 
 Endogenous biotin immunoreactivity is generally not visualized in formalin
 fixed, paraffin-embedded tissues unless a heat-induced antigen retrieval
 step has been introduced (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
 In this placental section, optically clear nuclei (containing biotin) bind
 to the streptavidin of the ABC technique giving a reaction similar to that
 seen with CMV containing cells. If a polymer method (or even the original
 Sternberger's PAP method) is used then this anomalous staining will
 disappear, thus allowing confident demonstration of CMV infected nuclei.
 
 The false-positive staining pattern caused by endogenous biotin can be
 cytoplasmic or nuclear. A report of positive immunoreactivity of
 hepatocellular carcinomas for inhibin was later determined to be a
 false-positive finding due to cytoplasmic endogenous biotin. Steroid cell
 tumours of the ovary were found to demonstrate endogenous biotin
 cytoplasmic staining in 36% of cases. Immunoreactivity for anti-Herpes
 virus immunohistochemical staining in a series of endometria was also later
 determined to be a false-positive result due to biotin. The prominent
 intranuclear inclusions, resembling herpes virus cytopathic effect, were
 caused by intranuclear biotin and not viral particles. Similar false
 positive staining for CMV in products of conception has also been reported
 (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
 False-positive staining can be cytoplasmic or nuclear. When cytoplasmic,
 the appearance of the false signal is that of a dull brown granular or
 fluffy staining pattern. If this quality of staining is observed with
 several different antibodies, endogenous staining by biotin should be
 considered. When nuclear, a false-positive reaction may be associated with
 optically clear nuclei identified on HE stained sections. False-positive
 staining due to endogenous biotin, however, does not occur in a cell
 membrane pattern (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
 Mount SL  Cooper K (2001) Beware of biotin: a source of false-positive
 immunohistochemistry Current Diagnostic Pathology  7:161-167.
 Nakatani et al (1994) Am J Surg Pathol 18(6):637-642.
 Sickel  di Sant'Agnese (1994) Arch Pathol Lab Med 118:831-833
 
 
 Regards
 Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
 Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
 Tel: 612 9845 3306
 Fax: 612 9845 3318
 the children's hospital at westmead
 Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead Locked Bag 4001,
 Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:
 histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Eva Permaul
 Sent: Monday, 23 July 2012 11:40 PM
 To: 

Re: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?

2012-07-24 Thread Eva Permaul
We standard use a Citrate pH6. We do 20min at 98C followed by cooling in
the citrate for 20min.
Eva

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:29 AM, James Burchette Jr. 
james.burche...@duke.edu wrote:

 What is your heat retrieval process?

 Jim Burchette, HT(ASCP) QIHC
 Histologist and Fly Fishing Bum
 Orlando, Florida

 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [
 histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Eva Permaul [
 e...@georgetown.edu]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:13 AM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?

 I understand the point about the biotin and I should have said that when
 using the ABC method we have taken to always using an avidin/biotin
 blocking kit. We are using biotinylated secondary antibodies from Vector. I
 have seen the same problem occur in our anti-mouse, anti-rabbit and
 anti-goat. In my last run I had stomach fundus as well as skin melanoma,
 both had pos.nuclei in the negative (no primary). In another run I had
 colon ca and breast ca, the breast ca had fewer pos. nuclei than the colon
 ca but they were still there. Some days the positive nuclei are stronger in
 a sample that was just weakly positive before. Just want to understand what
 it is and what effects it.
 Thank you all for your ideas.
 Eva Permaul
 Georgetown University

 On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Tony Henwood (SCHN) 
 tony.henw...@health.nsw.gov.au wrote:

  I should have added that this was from the workshop notes on a
  Hypotheticals Workshop I ran last year at our Australian National
 Meeting.
 
  Regards
  Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
  Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
  Tel: 612 9845 3306
  Fax: 612 9845 3318
  the children's hospital at westmead
  Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
  Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:
  histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Henwood
  (SCHN)
  Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 9:00 AM
  To: 'Eva Permaul'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: RE: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?
 
  It is possible that this is due to Biotin nuclei where excess biotin is
  found in the nuclei of some cells, see below:
 
  Optically clear nuclei have been reported in endometrial epithelium
  associated with first and second trimester abortions (Sickel  di
  Sant'Agnese 1994). Optically clear nuclei have also been found in
 different
  types of tissues of diverse organs such as ovary, thyroid and lung
  (Nakatani et al 1994, Mount  Cooper 2001). The optically clear nuclei
  contain excess biotin.
 
  Endogenous biotin immunoreactivity is generally not visualized in
 formalin
  fixed, paraffin-embedded tissues unless a heat-induced antigen retrieval
  step has been introduced (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
  In this placental section, optically clear nuclei (containing biotin)
 bind
  to the streptavidin of the ABC technique giving a reaction similar to
 that
  seen with CMV containing cells. If a polymer method (or even the original
  Sternberger's PAP method) is used then this anomalous staining will
  disappear, thus allowing confident demonstration of CMV infected nuclei.
 
  The false-positive staining pattern caused by endogenous biotin can be
  cytoplasmic or nuclear. A report of positive immunoreactivity of
  hepatocellular carcinomas for inhibin was later determined to be a
  false-positive finding due to cytoplasmic endogenous biotin. Steroid cell
  tumours of the ovary were found to demonstrate endogenous biotin
  cytoplasmic staining in 36% of cases. Immunoreactivity for anti-Herpes
  virus immunohistochemical staining in a series of endometria was also
 later
  determined to be a false-positive result due to biotin. The prominent
  intranuclear inclusions, resembling herpes virus cytopathic effect, were
  caused by intranuclear biotin and not viral particles. Similar false
  positive staining for CMV in products of conception has also been
 reported
  (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
  False-positive staining can be cytoplasmic or nuclear. When cytoplasmic,
  the appearance of the false signal is that of a dull brown granular or
  fluffy staining pattern. If this quality of staining is observed with
  several different antibodies, endogenous staining by biotin should be
  considered. When nuclear, a false-positive reaction may be associated
 with
  optically clear nuclei identified on HE stained sections. False-positive
  staining due to endogenous biotin, however, does not occur in a cell
  membrane pattern (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
  Mount SL  Cooper K (2001) Beware of biotin: a source of false-positive
  immunohistochemistry Current Diagnostic Pathology  7:161-167.
  Nakatani et al (1994) Am J Surg Pathol 18(6):637-642.
  Sickel  di Sant'Agnese (1994) Arch Pathol 

Re: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?

2012-07-24 Thread Eva Permaul
These samples were all human but I have seen it in Mouse mammary gland as
well but those nuclei were lighter.
Eva

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:51 AM, James Burchette Jr. 
james.burche...@duke.edu wrote:

 Thanks Eva. I don't know why you are having the nuclear staining problem.
 Your retrieval process isn't overly aggressive. I've used Vectors secondary
 and ABC reagents forever and have never had the issue you are describing.
 Human tissue?

 Jim Burchette, HT(ASCP) QIHC
 Histologist and Fly Fishing Bum
 Orlando, Florida

 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [
 histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Eva Permaul [
 e...@georgetown.edu]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:41 AM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?

 We standard use a Citrate pH6. We do 20min at 98C followed by cooling in
 the citrate for 20min.
 Eva

 On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:29 AM, James Burchette Jr. 
 james.burche...@duke.edu wrote:

  What is your heat retrieval process?
 
  Jim Burchette, HT(ASCP) QIHC
  Histologist and Fly Fishing Bum
  Orlando, Florida
 
  
  From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [
  histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Eva Permaul [
  e...@georgetown.edu]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:13 AM
  To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: Re: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?
 
  I understand the point about the biotin and I should have said that when
  using the ABC method we have taken to always using an avidin/biotin
  blocking kit. We are using biotinylated secondary antibodies from
 Vector. I
  have seen the same problem occur in our anti-mouse, anti-rabbit and
  anti-goat. In my last run I had stomach fundus as well as skin melanoma,
  both had pos.nuclei in the negative (no primary). In another run I had
  colon ca and breast ca, the breast ca had fewer pos. nuclei than the
 colon
  ca but they were still there. Some days the positive nuclei are stronger
 in
  a sample that was just weakly positive before. Just want to understand
 what
  it is and what effects it.
  Thank you all for your ideas.
  Eva Permaul
  Georgetown University
 
  On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Tony Henwood (SCHN) 
  tony.henw...@health.nsw.gov.au wrote:
 
   I should have added that this was from the workshop notes on a
   Hypotheticals Workshop I ran last year at our Australian National
  Meeting.
  
   Regards
   Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
   Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
   Tel: 612 9845 3306
   Fax: 612 9845 3318
   the children's hospital at westmead
   Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
   Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:
   histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Henwood
   (SCHN)
   Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 9:00 AM
   To: 'Eva Permaul'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
   Subject: RE: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?
  
   It is possible that this is due to Biotin nuclei where excess biotin
 is
   found in the nuclei of some cells, see below:
  
   Optically clear nuclei have been reported in endometrial epithelium
   associated with first and second trimester abortions (Sickel  di
   Sant'Agnese 1994). Optically clear nuclei have also been found in
  different
   types of tissues of diverse organs such as ovary, thyroid and lung
   (Nakatani et al 1994, Mount  Cooper 2001). The optically clear nuclei
   contain excess biotin.
  
   Endogenous biotin immunoreactivity is generally not visualized in
  formalin
   fixed, paraffin-embedded tissues unless a heat-induced antigen
 retrieval
   step has been introduced (Mount  Cooper 2001).
  
   In this placental section, optically clear nuclei (containing biotin)
  bind
   to the streptavidin of the ABC technique giving a reaction similar to
  that
   seen with CMV containing cells. If a polymer method (or even the
 original
   Sternberger's PAP method) is used then this anomalous staining will
   disappear, thus allowing confident demonstration of CMV infected
 nuclei.
  
   The false-positive staining pattern caused by endogenous biotin can be
   cytoplasmic or nuclear. A report of positive immunoreactivity of
   hepatocellular carcinomas for inhibin was later determined to be a
   false-positive finding due to cytoplasmic endogenous biotin. Steroid
 cell
   tumours of the ovary were found to demonstrate endogenous biotin
   cytoplasmic staining in 36% of cases. Immunoreactivity for anti-Herpes
   virus immunohistochemical staining in a series of endometria was also
  later
   determined to be a false-positive result due to biotin. The prominent
   intranuclear inclusions, resembling herpes virus cytopathic effect,
 were
   caused 

[Histonet] Cyclin D1 IHC

2012-07-24 Thread Suresch, Donna L.
Hello Histonetters,
Has anyone done IHC using Cyclin D1 antibody?  What vendor was used?  What 
control tissue was used?
Thank you.
Donna Suresch - Merck  Co.

Donna L. Suresch
Imaging Research Scientist
Merck Research Laboratories
Department of Imaging - West Point Campus
Mail Stop:  WP44KOffice: WP44-H129
770 Sumneytown Pike
PO Box 4
West Point, PA  19486-0004
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Re: [Histonet] Cyclin D1 IHC

2012-07-24 Thread Eva Permaul
We have used Neomarkers/Labvision cat.no. RM-9104 on mouse salivary glands
and mammary glands.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Suresch, Donna L. donna_sure...@merck.com
 wrote:

 Hello Histonetters,
 Has anyone done IHC using Cyclin D1 antibody?  What vendor was used?  What
 control tissue was used?
 Thank you.
 Donna Suresch - Merck  Co.

 Donna L. Suresch
 Imaging Research Scientist
 Merck Research Laboratories
 Department of Imaging - West Point Campus
 Mail Stop:  WP44KOffice: WP44-H129
 770 Sumneytown Pike
 PO Box 4
 West Point, PA  19486-0004
 Phone:  215-652-7349
 Fax:  215-993-6803


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Re: [Histonet] Cyclin D1 IHC

2012-07-24 Thread Mark Tarango
Hi Donna,

We use Dako #M3635 at 1:100.  Mantle cell lymphoma is our control.

Mark
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Suresch, Donna L.
donna_sure...@merck.comwrote:

 Hello Histonetters,
 Has anyone done IHC using Cyclin D1 antibody?  What vendor was used?  What
 control tissue was used?
 Thank you.
 Donna Suresch - Merck  Co.

 Donna L. Suresch
 Imaging Research Scientist
 Merck Research Laboratories
 Department of Imaging - West Point Campus
 Mail Stop:  WP44KOffice: WP44-H129
 770 Sumneytown Pike
 PO Box 4
 West Point, PA  19486-0004
 Phone:  215-652-7349
 Fax:  215-993-6803


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2012-07-24 Thread Bustamante, Lin
Can I store (Xylene substitute, Isopropanol and Formalin) each, separated  in 5 
gallons (closed with a tight lid) plastic containers placed inside spill tray 
in a room that the temperature can rise up to 40°C in the summer? One container 
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[Histonet] HistoTALK Show

2012-07-24 Thread David Kemler
Hi Everyone - This past HistoTALK http://www.histotalk.com/ show on Sunday, 
July 22nd had as its guest Wanda Jones from Emory University Hospital. Just 
wanted you all to know. Oh, and BTW, before that show #28, our guest was Billie 
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RE: [Histonet] CD200

2012-07-24 Thread Glen Dawson

I would be interested in this as well...
 
Thank-you,
 
Glen Dawson BS, HT(ASCP), QIHC
Histology Technical Specialist
Janesville, WI

 

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 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:03:36 -0400
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] CD200
 
 Is anyone out there running CD-200 with good results? If so, I would really 
 appreciate it if you would email me privately so I can ask you a few 
 questions.
 
 Thanks,
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[Histonet] Non-Histo. question

2012-07-24 Thread Sarah Dysart
So, I go on maternity leave in 52 (I hope...) days...while out I will have one 
of those automatic messages that says I'm out...Since I get say 20ish emails a 
day from histonet I would assume that 20ish of these replys will go out to 
everyone, and I don't want to drive people bonkers.

Maybe the moderator could answer...what do you want me to do?  Cancel and 
rejoin when I get back, or is this just something that gets filtered out?
Thanks

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP), QIHC (ASCP)
Histotechnologist
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Re: [Histonet] Non-Histo. question

2012-07-24 Thread Eva Permaul
Hi Sarah,
I had a similar situation. If you go into your profile on the Histonet site
you can click to not receive any of the Histonet messages while you are
away. Then when you get back and want the messages again you just change it
back.
Eva

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Sarah Dysart sdys...@mirnarx.com wrote:

 So, I go on maternity leave in 52 (I hope...) days...while out I will have
 one of those automatic messages that says I'm out...Since I get say 20ish
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 go out to everyone, and I don't want to drive people bonkers.

 Maybe the moderator could answer...what do you want me to do?  Cancel and
 rejoin when I get back, or is this just something that gets filtered out?
 Thanks

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 Histotechnologist
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 Suite 100
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Re: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?

2012-07-24 Thread Eva Permaul
Yes. The strength of the stained nuclei in the no primary slides are
stronger on some days than others.


On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Kim Donadio one_angel_sec...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Are you getting false positives and variations on the same control tissue
 for different days ?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Eva Permaul e...@georgetown.edu wrote:

  I understand the point about the biotin and I should have said that when
  using the ABC method we have taken to always using an avidin/biotin
  blocking kit. We are using biotinylated secondary antibodies from
 Vector. I
  have seen the same problem occur in our anti-mouse, anti-rabbit and
  anti-goat. In my last run I had stomach fundus as well as skin melanoma,
  both had pos.nuclei in the negative (no primary). In another run I had
  colon ca and breast ca, the breast ca had fewer pos. nuclei than the
 colon
  ca but they were still there. Some days the positive nuclei are stronger
 in
  a sample that was just weakly positive before. Just want to understand
 what
  it is and what effects it.
  Thank you all for your ideas.
  Eva Permaul
  Georgetown University
 
  On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Tony Henwood (SCHN) 
  tony.henw...@health.nsw.gov.au wrote:
 
  I should have added that this was from the workshop notes on a
  Hypotheticals Workshop I ran last year at our Australian National
 Meeting.
 
  Regards
  Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
  Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
  Tel: 612 9845 3306
  Fax: 612 9845 3318
  the children's hospital at westmead
  Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
  Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:
  histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Henwood
  (SCHN)
  Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 9:00 AM
  To: 'Eva Permaul'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: RE: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?
 
  It is possible that this is due to Biotin nuclei where excess biotin
 is
  found in the nuclei of some cells, see below:
 
  Optically clear nuclei have been reported in endometrial epithelium
  associated with first and second trimester abortions (Sickel  di
  Sant'Agnese 1994). Optically clear nuclei have also been found in
 different
  types of tissues of diverse organs such as ovary, thyroid and lung
  (Nakatani et al 1994, Mount  Cooper 2001). The optically clear nuclei
  contain excess biotin.
 
  Endogenous biotin immunoreactivity is generally not visualized in
 formalin
  fixed, paraffin-embedded tissues unless a heat-induced antigen retrieval
  step has been introduced (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
  In this placental section, optically clear nuclei (containing biotin)
 bind
  to the streptavidin of the ABC technique giving a reaction similar to
 that
  seen with CMV containing cells. If a polymer method (or even the
 original
  Sternberger's PAP method) is used then this anomalous staining will
  disappear, thus allowing confident demonstration of CMV infected nuclei.
 
  The false-positive staining pattern caused by endogenous biotin can be
  cytoplasmic or nuclear. A report of positive immunoreactivity of
  hepatocellular carcinomas for inhibin was later determined to be a
  false-positive finding due to cytoplasmic endogenous biotin. Steroid
 cell
  tumours of the ovary were found to demonstrate endogenous biotin
  cytoplasmic staining in 36% of cases. Immunoreactivity for anti-Herpes
  virus immunohistochemical staining in a series of endometria was also
 later
  determined to be a false-positive result due to biotin. The prominent
  intranuclear inclusions, resembling herpes virus cytopathic effect, were
  caused by intranuclear biotin and not viral particles. Similar false
  positive staining for CMV in products of conception has also been
 reported
  (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
  False-positive staining can be cytoplasmic or nuclear. When cytoplasmic,
  the appearance of the false signal is that of a dull brown granular or
  fluffy staining pattern. If this quality of staining is observed with
  several different antibodies, endogenous staining by biotin should be
  considered. When nuclear, a false-positive reaction may be associated
 with
  optically clear nuclei identified on HE stained sections.
 False-positive
  staining due to endogenous biotin, however, does not occur in a cell
  membrane pattern (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
  Mount SL  Cooper K (2001) Beware of biotin: a source of false-positive
  immunohistochemistry Current Diagnostic Pathology  7:161-167.
  Nakatani et al (1994) Am J Surg Pathol 18(6):637-642.
  Sickel  di Sant'Agnese (1994) Arch Pathol Lab Med 118:831-833
 
 
  Regards
  Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
  Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
  Tel: 612 9845 3306
  Fax: 612 9845 3318
  the children's hospital at westmead
  Cnr Hawkesbury Road 

[Histonet] Bielschowsky questions, Luxol Fast Blue answers, and Protocol Drift.

2012-07-24 Thread Tim Wheelock

Hi Everyone:

I had a few questions regarding Bielschowsky silver stains.

(1) What adhesive (if any) or type of slide do you use for the stain?
(2)  How do you clean the glassware?
(3)  When diluting the 40% formaldehyde when making up the developer, do 
you consider the 40% formaldehyde as 100% and then dilute it down by 
using 1 part formaldehyde and 9 parts distilled water?
  Or do you assume the 40% formaldehyde is 40% and then dilute it 
down using 1 part formaldehyde and 3 parts distilled water?
  (My protocol may have inadvertently changed from the first method 
to the second; I am not sure.)


By the way, I want to thank everyone for helping me solve the problem 
of  my Luxol Fast Blue staining the myelin too lightly.
I discovered that somehow, I had started adding twice the amount of 
acetic acid to the Luxol staining solution as I should of.
(This protocol drift, where a mistake can actually find its way into a 
written protocol, can  be a real problem in a lab, especially  when 
working for  years by oneself, as  I have) .


But I also found that even reducing the acetic acid, while helping a 
lot, did not completely fix the problem.
I needed to switch from staining the tissue for 2 hours at 60C  to a 
full over-night (why I never needed to switch times before is a 
mystery). That  did the trick beautifully.

The myelin is staining perfectly again.

Thanks again,

Tim Wheelock
Harvard Brain Bank
Belmont, MA



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[Histonet] Tennessee BB

2012-07-24 Thread Rena Fail
Okay 30 years is too long in histology! I should have retired sooner than I
did,. I saw this subject heading as a new stain for bacteria instead of an
ad for a bed and breakfast in Tennessee.

Rena Fail
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[Histonet] 2012 Hard Tissue Forum Event in Bethesda, MD (August 18th!)

2012-07-24 Thread Jack Ratliff




Hello!
My name is Jack Ratliff and I am Chairman of the Hard Tissue Committee (HTC) 
for the National Society for Histotechnology (NSH). On behalf of the HTC and 
the NSH, we would like to invite you to attend and participate in the 2012 Hard 
Tissue Forum. This event will take place August 18th, 2012 and will be held at 
the Doubletree by Hilton in Bethesda, MD. We have put together an exciting 
program this year and we invite you to be a part of it!
The program this year will focus on relevant histological and image analysis 
techniques associated with undemineralized bone and medical device implants. 
While the topics of microtomy (thin  ground sectioning) and image analysis 
(microCT  histomorphometry) will be highlighted, the sub-category of workshops 
will showcase a concentration of equipment, techniques, and technology that 
promises to be a unique single-day event demonstrating a hands-on application 
of specific techniques never before staged together in a single histology 
event! In fact, one of the highlights of this years program will be a first 
ever in the U.S and North America unveiling and demonstration of a 
non-contact laser microtome that has been developed to take thin sections of 
fresh and resin/plastic embedded tissues!
To learn more about the Hard Tissue Forum, please visit 
http://s3.goeshow.com/nsh/2012HT/ereg572259.cfm?clear where you can find 
speaker related information, detailed workshop abstracts, and event 
registration information. If you have ANY questions, please feel free to 
contact Aubrey Wanner, Meeting Manager of the NSH (aub...@nsh.org) or myself 
(ratliffj...@hotmail.com) at your convenience. I look forward to seeing you in 
Bethesda!
Yours Sincerely,
Jack
Jack L RatliffChairman, Hard Tissue Committee - National Society for 
Histotechnology
  
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[Histonet] Job Opportunity at Weill Cornell Medical College, NYC

2012-07-24 Thread monettes
Description
The Tri-Institutional Laboratory of Comparative Pathology provides research 
pathology support to investigators at Weill Cornell Medical College, Memorial 
Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, and The Rockefeller University, located in New 
York City. This position supports the mission of the Laboratory of Comparative 
Pathology by performing a range of histologic techniques on laboratory animal 
tissues for comparative pathologists, principal investigators and researchers; 
assists investigators in specimen requisition, handling and accessioning, 
following departmental protocols; Histology Services: Performs all steps of 
routine processing, paraffin-embedding (and OCT/plastic as needed) and 
microtomy (paraffin, frozen, plastic) on a variety of animal tissues (including 
eyes, bone, placenta and embryos); performs routine hematoxylin and eosin 
staining, as well as special histochemical staining (manual and automatic), 
cover slipping and immunohistochemistry as needed; performs special histologic 
techniques such as double-staining of embryos with Alcian blue and Alizarin 
red, and whole mount staining (mammary gland and lung); participates in quality 
control program for slides prepared, results entered and results released; 
orders reagent and supplies as needed; troubleshoots, cleans and performs 
routine maintenance of laboratory equipment related to histology and 
immunohistochemistry; performs preventive maintenance on histologic equipment; 
performs validation studies with introduction of new equipment/assays; performs 
other related duties as assigned.
Qualifications
At least three years experience working in a histology laboratory required; 
must be energetic, self-directed and self-motivated; computer proficiency 
necessary; Bachelors degree and HT, ASCP certified or eligible highly desired; 
excellent organization and communication skills required.

For more information and to apply, see position #17920 at this link: 
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[Histonet] counter stain for PAS for fungus

2012-07-24 Thread Steve McClain
Change all your reagents.
Change periodic acid every week at least.

Personally I see little advantage in fast green, and a common downside is
overstaining in many labs, hiding fungus and basement membrane.
Faint Hematoxylin is acceptable counterstain.

For certain applications, e.g., dual staining for carbohydrate and mucin, 
adding AlcianBlue for 40 seconds is wickedly good.
Dis/Advantage being dual staining methods impose two charges.
Too bad.
Instead of separate stains for mucin and carbohydrate,
do them both every day and get good at it.
We rarely do a straight PAS any more.
Subtract the second charge where needed.

The two analytes (carbohydrate and mucin) are different, yet the interpretation 
is synergistic.
Where you see mucin glommed around a hypha-like structure it is.
It also demonstrates internal structure in many fungi.

AlcianBlue also stains bacteria, making it useful where polymicrobial (fungal 
and bacterial) infections are common.
Call it your biofilm assay.


So many fungi produce mucin that PAS-AB with hema is a superb method for 
detection.
PAS-AB sine hema is considerably more sensitive, especially with pigmented 
fungal species
but interpretation of PAS-AB without Hema is difficult for many pathologists.

Steedman wrote the paper in 1951.
Steve
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McClain Labs, LLC 45 Manor Road, Smithtown, NY 11787 631 361 4000

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Re: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?

2012-07-24 Thread Tony Reilly
Hello Eva
 
I had a similar problem with an actin antibody many years ago.  We eventually 
after many trials decided that it was an artifact caused by the heat retrieval 
possibly in relation to the length of fixation time.  By playing with the 
dilution we eventually eliminated the problem by not retrieving that antibody 
at all and still got good antigenic staining.  While advent of  HIER has 
improved the staining of many antibodies it is not a necessity for all of them.
 
regards
Tony
 
 
 

Tony Reilly  B.App.Sc. , M.Sc.
Chief Scientist, Anatomical Pathology
Pathology Queensland-PA Laboratory 

Health Services Support Agency | Queensland Health
 
Level 1, Building 15,Princess Alexandra Hospital
Ipswich Road,WOOLLOONGABBA  Qld4102
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 Kim Donadio one_angel_sec...@yahoo.com 7/24/2012 10:18 pm 
Are you getting false positives and variations on the same control tissue for 
different days ? 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Eva Permaul e...@georgetown.edu wrote:

 I understand the point about the biotin and I should have said that when
 using the ABC method we have taken to always using an avidin/biotin
 blocking kit. We are using biotinylated secondary antibodies from Vector. I
 have seen the same problem occur in our anti-mouse, anti-rabbit and
 anti-goat. In my last run I had stomach fundus as well as skin melanoma,
 both had pos.nuclei in the negative (no primary). In another run I had
 colon ca and breast ca, the breast ca had fewer pos. nuclei than the colon
 ca but they were still there. Some days the positive nuclei are stronger in
 a sample that was just weakly positive before. Just want to understand what
 it is and what effects it.
 Thank you all for your ideas.
 Eva Permaul
 Georgetown University
 
 On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Tony Henwood (SCHN) 
 tony.henw...@health.nsw.gov.au wrote:
 
 I should have added that this was from the workshop notes on a
 Hypotheticals Workshop I ran last year at our Australian National Meeting.
 
 Regards
 Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
 Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
 Tel: 612 9845 3306
 Fax: 612 9845 3318
 the children's hospital at westmead
 Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
 Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:
 histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Henwood
 (SCHN)
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 9:00 AM
 To: 'Eva Permaul'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Secondary antibody causing nuclear staining?
 
 It is possible that this is due to Biotin nuclei where excess biotin is
 found in the nuclei of some cells, see below:
 
 Optically clear nuclei have been reported in endometrial epithelium
 associated with first and second trimester abortions (Sickel  di
 Sant'Agnese 1994). Optically clear nuclei have also been found in different
 types of tissues of diverse organs such as ovary, thyroid and lung
 (Nakatani et al 1994, Mount  Cooper 2001). The optically clear nuclei
 contain excess biotin.
 
 Endogenous biotin immunoreactivity is generally not visualized in formalin
 fixed, paraffin-embedded tissues unless a heat-induced antigen retrieval
 step has been introduced (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
 In this placental section, optically clear nuclei (containing biotin) bind
 to the streptavidin of the ABC technique giving a reaction similar to that
 seen with CMV containing cells. If a polymer method (or even the original
 Sternberger's PAP method) is used then this anomalous staining will
 disappear, thus allowing confident demonstration of CMV infected nuclei.
 
 The false-positive staining pattern caused by endogenous biotin can be
 cytoplasmic or nuclear. A report of positive immunoreactivity of
 hepatocellular carcinomas for inhibin was later determined to be a
 false-positive finding due to cytoplasmic endogenous biotin. Steroid cell
 tumours of the ovary were found to demonstrate endogenous biotin
 cytoplasmic staining in 36% of cases. Immunoreactivity for anti-Herpes
 virus immunohistochemical staining in a series of endometria was also later
 determined to be a false-positive result due to biotin. The prominent
 intranuclear inclusions, resembling herpes virus cytopathic effect, were
 caused by intranuclear biotin and not viral particles. Similar false
 positive staining for CMV in products of conception has also been reported
 (Mount  Cooper 2001).
 
 False-positive staining can be cytoplasmic or nuclear. When cytoplasmic,
 the appearance of the false signal is that of a dull brown granular or
 fluffy staining pattern. If this quality of staining is observed with
 several different antibodies, endogenous staining by biotin should be
 considered. When nuclear, a 

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