RE: [Histonet] Cooling paraffin blocks with ice VS. Freezing Spray

2012-10-02 Thread Susan.Walzer
Ice is still the best coolant because it adds moisture. As Lee Luna used to 
say Rehydrate, rehydrate, rehydrate For tough blocks, face it then add soapy 
water to ice with some ammonium hydroxide. Like magic!

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Podawiltz, 
Thomas
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:01 PM
To: joelle weaver; histotech...@gmail.com
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Cooling paraffin blocks with ice VS. Freezing Spray

I was once worked at a place that had this sign on the wall that everyone saw 
as you entered the training room.

When you think you are through learning, you are through here

Blows my mind when I run into people that refuse to learn anything current.



Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer.
LRGHealthcare
Laconia, NH 03246
603-524-3211 ext: 3220



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JennyYou don't need to respond to this, but I will post in case there is anyone 
else out there who is going through the same experiences and feeling 
discouraged.  There are many people in the field like this. I have been out 
there at least a little while and I went through the same response once out of 
histology school and get attitude all the time, still to this day, even though 
I have jumped through all the usual hoops at this point. I can tell you that 
while  working in some labs, I thought of quitting histology almost weekly 
because I got so sick of this kind of thing  People have gotten into the field 
in various ways,  and they sometimes get into ruts and they don't get out there 
much to learn all the new techniques and information. People coming in with 
ideas threaten the status quo,  and sometimes it is just difficult many 
people to change.  I haven't quit histology yet though,   and you shouldn't  
let other people drive you out or make you doubt yourself either. Trust me, we 
need educated and trained people in this field in a desperate way. Look, we all 
have stuff to learn,  new and old! If you stop learning and believe you know 
it all,  you are a real drag to everyone and holding back others who want to 
learn and grow. If you are a newer tech, I think that can be a plus. You are 
fresh and full of enthusiasm and new ideas. The seasoned can share what they 
have learned from time and experience, and you can bring new ideas and your 
fresh enthusiasm and energy- I don't see why that can't be a win-win. Anyhow, 
all of this are just my opinions, and I may get slammed for these comments like 
I have many times before,  but as far as I can tell  from what you have posted, 
 you are not wrong, and your techniques seem reasonable for the hospital 
clinical setting. In addition, you seem to understand why they work  for you 
and the technical rationale behind them. To me this is good. Many people have 
been taught how to do things, but not why.  We need more people who want to 
know why and who care about quality. Please read the other posts about blades ( 
they said it best already) but I feel that is crap about skimping  on them ( 
sorry) . No patient is worth less than any disposable blade. That is why they 
call them disposable. You should not waste supplies, that is irresponsible, but 
within reason you need decent supplies to get the best quality you can possible 
can. Ice is cheap, much cheaper than freeze it spray..(as someone mentioned and 
a good point) .. so there is no valid economic/operational reason there that I 
can see to justify any of that.




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:26:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Cooling paraffin blocks with ice VS. Freezing Spray
From: histotech...@gmail.com
To: joellewea...@hotmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

Thanks everybody for your answers. I cant respond them all but I concluded that 
the best way to get good sections is too chill the blocks on ice because I 
agree that it facilitates the process.

I really don't understand why my supervisor depends so much on freezing sprays 
to cut and the pathologist has never complained about artifacts caused by them 
but I do believe that they are present because I have seen them getting formed. 
It makes sectioning difficult because you try to get sections free of holes and 
that contributes to the problem.


At my lab is the same thing. My supervisor is in charge of the embedding and 
she just use the ice only for hardening the paraffin block. We don't have a 
standard embedding center with cold plate. Since is a small lab we just have a 
heating plate where we handle the 

RE: [Histonet] Ventana temp veriifer slides

2012-10-02 Thread Kuhnla, Melissa
We have been running in every position every quarter!!  Very expensive.
We record the lot # of verifier slides and the results.  If one position
fails, we repeat. No photos.

We recently took advantage of Ventanas special promotion.  They will
come here and have someone perform all quarterly maintenance...temp
slides and decon.  Ended up being HALF the cost

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Bitting
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 1:42 PM
To: Amber McKenzie; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventana temp veriifer slides

I'm doing the even one quarter and the odds the next also. I number the
slides in Sharpie to cprrespond to the heat pad # after they are
finished and take a photo of them for documentation, then toss the
slides.



es...I've decided to do the even's 1 quarter and the odds the next
quarter (because of cost)...do you just run them, document it and throw
them away?  Or does anyone make a copy of them and save in the QC book?
Thanks!


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RE: [Histonet] duel stains

2012-10-02 Thread McMahon, Loralee A
No we are still doing the triple stain, just stopped billing three. 
The pathologist decided that the patient specimen was more valuable. 

Loralee McMahon, HTL (ASCP)
Immunohistochemistry Supervisor
Strong Memorial Hospital
Department of Surgical Pathology
(585) 275-7210

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Subject: [Histonet] duel stains

Hi Netters,  Just curioushas anyone stopped doing dual IHC (ie. PIN4) du e 
to the charging changes?  We are going to start doing the  three stains 
separately.  Any opiniions?



Linda Hartman HT(ASCP)

MNMC
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[Histonet] MIXED fiber type identification by Immunohistochemistry

2012-10-02 Thread arjun ruhella
Greetings to all, 

In immunohistochemistry, I am encountering confusion in designating muscle 
fibers (based on staining color intensity) to a particular fiber type. 

This problem is particularly bothersome when i encounter the fibers stained 
with 2 different colors, one color has good intensity while other seems to be 
of light intensity. I don't have any criterion whether to consider this light 
staining as actual staining, which would classify the fibers as MIXED fibers or 
should i consider this light staining as background/non specific staining in 
which case the fibers will be classified as PURE fibers.   

Does anybody can suggest any criterion/tips they have been using to identify 
muscle fiber type as correctly as possible? I can understand that identifying 
MIXED fibers is subjective in immunohistochemistry, but it would be of immense 
help if i could get to know of any objective suggestions.


Animal= spinal cord injured Rat
Muscle = Soleus
Section Thickness = 10µm 

I will really appreciate the help! 

Thanks, hope to hear from ppl soon! 

BEST, 

AR 

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RE: [Histonet] duel stains

2012-10-02 Thread Sebree Linda A
We've always just billed for one stain so no difference for us; we'll continue 
doing it. 

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Subject: [Histonet] duel stains



Hi Netters,  Just curioushas anyone stopped doing dual IHC (ie. PIN4) du e 
to the charging changes?  We are going to start doing the  three stains 
separately.  Any opiniions? 



Linda Hartman HT(ASCP) 

MNMC
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Re: [Histonet] Acid Phosphatase Reaction

2012-10-02 Thread Rene J Buesa
Acid phosphatase is a standard procedure in FFPE (Formalin Fixed Paraffin 
Embedded) tissues. You will need to process your tissues accordingly.
Xylene is also standard procedure even when it should be avoided because of 
toxicity. There are many other alternatives to xylene usage.
I advise you to check in some TEM text that can answer your doubts.
René J.



From: Duraine, Lita dura...@bcm.edu
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 6:35 PM
Subject: [Histonet] Acid Phosphatase Reaction 

Hello to all Histologists,
Perhaps someone can help me.  At our institution we primarily use electron 
microscopy for slides with toluidine blue, and grids for TEM.  The students 
here also do some immunostaining on their tissues.  We have a student though 
who would like to try using the Acid  Phosphatase Reaction to identify 
lysosomes as another alternative data to add to his paper.  Not having done any 
type of paraffin sectioning before how would we proceed?  I understand the 
basic tissue processing recipe with formalin, however does the procedure call 
for a special machine?  I noticed that all the recipes I have looked at online 
refer to using cassettes.  We primarily use microwave and vacuum to process our 
tissue in Karnovsky's for TEM.  Would the xylene cause any problems for us?  
Are there any other stains that could work on resin embedded sections besides 
toluidine blue that would specifically stain lysosomes?  You advice would be 
greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Lita Duraine
EM Technologist
Bellen Lab
HHMI- Molecular Genetics
Duncan Neurological Research Institute
1250 Moursund St.
Houston, TX 77030
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[Histonet] Re: Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.

2012-10-02 Thread Jay Lundgren
I am not the only forum member who is concerned about this.  I have
received private messages from others who agree with me and choose not to
reply to all.  I will not repost them out of respect for their privacy.

The facts that you take what you do seriously, or are not disrespectful are
moot.

The fact that does apply here is that advertising is not allowed on
Histonet.

The staffing agencies that* occasionally* post on here are offering a list
of open jobs.  You are soliciting for your services, three times in one
week. (9/25, 9/26, 10/1)

 Histonet is not a forum for marketing, pitching, plugging, promulgating or
selling.  I hope it stays that way.

Sincerely,

   Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL
(ASCP)
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[Histonet] Cold room alternative

2012-10-02 Thread Johnson, Aaron
The building I am in does not have a cold room and I would like to incubate 
some samples overnight on an orbital shaker at 4°C. Can anyone recommend a 
refrigerator with an interior electrical outlet or another alternative? Thanks.
Aaron

Aaron M. Johnson
Assistant Professor
Department of Speech and Hearing Science
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

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[Histonet] Traveling

2012-10-02 Thread Demetria Ross
I'm considering becoming a traveling histotech in the future. Are there any
traveling techs or any techs that traveled in the past on the forum that
can offer some ups and downs positive and negatives of traveling Thanks.
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[Histonet] RE: Cold room alternative

2012-10-02 Thread Bell, Pat
Aaron,

We have a refrigerator from VWR that has a glass door like a Deli frig. and 
it has an electrical outlet inside as well as outside. That could be a starting 
place to look. :)

Pat Bell HT(ASCP)
University of Colorado, Denver
Medical Oncology; MS 8117
12801 E 17th Ave.
RC1-S, L18-8402C
Aurora, Co. 80045
303-724-6077
pat.b...@ucdenver.edu
 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:41 PM
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Subject: [Histonet] Cold room alternative

The building I am in does not have a cold room and I would like to incubate 
some samples overnight on an orbital shaker at 4°C. Can anyone recommend a 
refrigerator with an interior electrical outlet or another alternative? Thanks.
Aaron

Aaron M. Johnson
Assistant Professor
Department of Speech and Hearing Science University of Illinois at 
Urbana-Champaign

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[Histonet] Re:

2012-10-02 Thread Sadushe Loxha

http://ifet.com.ar/www.itrustyou.foxnews.realwork.php

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[Histonet] RE: Cold room alternative

2012-10-02 Thread Connolly, Brett M
Ditto here, ours are manufactured by True, but you could probably find one 
cheaper through one of the used lab equipment vendors on the web.

Brett

Brett M. Connolly, Ph.D.
Principal Scientist, Imaging Dept.
Merck  Co., Inc.
PO Box 4, WP-44K
West Point, PA 19486
brett_conno...@merck.com
T- 215-652-2501
F- 215-993-6803





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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 6:13 PM
To: 'Johnson, Aaron'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Cold room alternative

Aaron,

We have a refrigerator from VWR that has a glass door like a Deli frig. and 
it has an electrical outlet inside as well as outside. That could be a starting 
place to look. :)

Pat Bell HT(ASCP)
University of Colorado, Denver
Medical Oncology; MS 8117
12801 E 17th Ave.
RC1-S, L18-8402C
Aurora, Co. 80045
303-724-6077
pat.b...@ucdenver.edu
 
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Johnson, Aaron
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:41 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Cold room alternative

The building I am in does not have a cold room and I would like to incubate 
some samples overnight on an orbital shaker at 4°C. Can anyone recommend a 
refrigerator with an interior electrical outlet or another alternative? Thanks.
Aaron

Aaron M. Johnson
Assistant Professor
Department of Speech and Hearing Science University of Illinois at 
Urbana-Champaign

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Re: [Histonet] Traveling

2012-10-02 Thread E. Wayne Johnson

If you do that and announce your availability on Histonet, you are likely
to be criticized publicly by a few, while others send email and twitters 
to one
another privately discussing your attributes, and those who like having 
the information

that you are available probably will not speak up in your support.

But since there is no such thing as bad publicity, you will have to 
decide the +/- of it.


On 10/3/2012 5:49 AM, Demetria Ross wrote:

I'm considering becoming a traveling histotech in the future. Are there any
traveling techs or any techs that traveled in the past on the forum that
can offer some ups and downs positive and negatives of traveling Thanks.
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Re: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.

2012-10-02 Thread Marc DeCarlo
Go get em Jay! I agree with you 100% this forum should be kept free of
blatant advertising. I'd also like to give you credit for not stooping to
the level of this anonymous poster after he or she publicly tried to
belittle you.

Marc DeCarlo

On Tuesday, October 2, 2012, Jay Lundgren wrote:

 I am not the only forum member who is concerned about this.  I have
 received private messages from others who agree with me and choose not to
 reply to all.  I will not repost them out of respect for their privacy.

 The facts that you take what you do seriously, or are not disrespectful are
 moot.

 The fact that does apply here is that advertising is not allowed on
 Histonet.

 The staffing agencies that* occasionally* post on here are offering a list
 of open jobs.  You are soliciting for your services, three times in one
 week. (9/25, 9/26, 10/1)

  Histonet is not a forum for marketing, pitching, plugging, promulgating or
 selling.  I hope it stays that way.

 Sincerely,

Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL
 (ASCP)
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[Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.

2012-10-02 Thread Contact HistoCare
Ok, let me put this issue to bed.
It's fine you feel you need to be the
voice for those who have all the help they need and will never need the 
services of a histology professional to help cover staffing shortages or 
inadequate/ineffective staffing.

There are thousands of subscribers to this list and I respect every single one 
of them. HistoCare is for those who NEED professional assistance on an interim 
basis. And let's be clear, I'm not just a tech looking for job once in a 
while. I'm a professional extending my expertise and invaluable abilities to 
help when the need arises on relatively short notice without compromising 
patient care. 

Your messages seem to have a very petty tone and not respectful of the nature 
of the work we do. It's almost as if you are not even of this profession. 
I care about all those people who go to doctor to have a million tests done to 
see what's wrong with them and have to wait days and weeks before they get any 
kind of news to settle their nerves or some glimmer of hope. I want to minimize 
that inconvenience as much as I can. 

I am a real person first, a histology professional second on the other side of 
this email just like there is a real patient on the other side of that slide.

You only care about HistoCare advertising on one of the few forums histology 
professionals have to exchange thoughts, ideas, and RESOURCES. If the best you 
can add to histonet is criticism, it doesn't need you or those like you.

This is a small community with very high turnover, low job satisfaction, some 
employed individuals with marginal or inadequate abilities, and little interest 
in others to want to break into this profession. Heck even the ones that's been 
his field for a long time express dismay, let alone the newbies who can't get 
the proper support from their own supervisors! Good grief!

Those who rely on histonet for advice and ideas should also be able to search 
for dependable lab support and hope that there is a good resource for them to 
call upon.

Please do me a favor and respectfully bow out and resist the urge to respond 
further as I have no interest in debating. I'd rather spend my time being 
productive. 

There isn't a policy specifically stating i can't make HistoCare available for 
those who may search for assistance. Lets not forget Histonet is a courtesy to 
us all for interests in histology and what it is not, is a vehicle to complain. 

I was initially open to your suggestions for alternatives and offered you the 
opportunity to respond with solutions acceptable to 'you' but I see you would 
rather be a complainer than a helper. 

Any future responses from you referring to this matter directly or indirectly 
will be considered harassment and forwarded to the appropriate parties.

Sincerely HistoCare

www.HistoCare.com



On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Jay Lundgren jaylundg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am not the only forum member who is concerned about this.  I have received 
 private messages from others who agree with me and choose not to reply to 
 all.  I will not repost them out of respect for their privacy.
 
 The facts that you take what you do seriously, or are not disrespectful are 
 moot.
 
 The fact that does apply here is that advertising is not allowed on Histonet.
 
 The staffing agencies that occasionally post on here are offering a list of 
 open jobs.  You are soliciting for your services, three times in one week. 
 (9/25, 9/26, 10/1)
 
 Histonet is not a forum for marketing, pitching, plugging, promulgating or 
 selling.  I hope it stays that way.
 
   Sincerely,
 
  Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Histonet] Reliable Histology Team Member to embed and cut for you.

2012-10-02 Thread Contact HistoCare
Kudos to you too for reading the entire message. If you had, you'd see the 
other person initiated the public belittling. 

I am not some pushover who won't defend my professionalism when subtly attacked 
by some closed minded person and his cheerleaders. I didn't ask for this. It 
was brought to me.

Do you think every message you or others send or respond to is important or 
relevant to every single subscriber? 

I'll be the first to tell you they aren't, the difference being the other 
subscribers practice self control and simply ignore topics which don't pertain 
to their particular need at the time. It takes less effort to delete messages 
from the list than to respond to something of no value to the subscriber.

On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Marc DeCarlo boneima...@gmail.com wrote:

 Go get em Jay! I agree with you 100% this forum should be kept free of 
 blatant advertising. I'd also like to give you credit for not stooping to the 
 level of this anonymous poster after he or she publicly tried to belittle 
 you.  
 
 Marc DeCarlo
 
 On Tuesday, October 2, 2012, Jay Lundgren wrote:
 I am not the only forum member who is concerned about this.  I have
 received private messages from others who agree with me and choose not to
 reply to all.  I will not repost them out of respect for their privacy.
 
 The facts that you take what you do seriously, or are not disrespectful are
 moot.
 
 The fact that does apply here is that advertising is not allowed on
 Histonet.
 
 The staffing agencies that* occasionally* post on here are offering a list
 of open jobs.  You are soliciting for your services, three times in one
 week. (9/25, 9/26, 10/1)
 
  Histonet is not a forum for marketing, pitching, plugging, promulgating or
 selling.  I hope it stays that way.
 
 Sincerely,
 
Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL
 (ASCP)
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