[Histonet] Ultra users

2012-11-26 Thread Clare Thornton
Has anyone encountered incorrect/inappropriate staining using the Ultra?  Twice 
we have had slides that looked like they had the wrong antibody applied, 
although the slides and dispensers were labeled correctly (once with TTF-1, 
once with p16; both had membranous staining).  I was wondering if where the 
reagent wheel both spins and moves on the arm, occasionally it doesn't quite 
make it to the dispenser it is supposed to and applies the wrong one.  Does 
anyone have any experience/ideas as to why this might happen?

thank you!



Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Assistant Histology Supervisor
Dahl-Chase Diagnostic Services
417 State Street, Suite 540
Bangor, ME 04401
cthorn...@dahlchase.com


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[Histonet] GMS fungus control

2012-11-26 Thread Clare Thornton
Second question of the day:  what is everyone using for their fungus control 
for GMS?  We have always used pneumocystis when looking for pneumo, and 
Aspergillus when looking for fungus, but wondering if anyone uses any type of 
fungus just to see that stain worked properly.  We are having difficulty 
locating tissue for both pneumo and Aspergillus, and are trying to avoid buying 
commercial QC slides.

thanks again!

Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Assistant Histology Supervisor
Dahl-Chase Diagnostic Services
417 State Street, Suite 540
Bangor, ME 04401
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AW: [Histonet] Ultra users

2012-11-26 Thread Gudrun Lang
Clare,
last month we had recurring troubles with the Ultra.
With a couple of runs the slides were not stained correctly. In one run we
had slides with no colour, with dab-colour, with purple-hematoxylin color,
with specific antibody-staining and without. The whole panorama.
Some runs were completed without any alarm. Some stopped with the alarm
that's due to the fact, that the arm didn't find the right position at the
end of its turn. This error was told to be caused by an invalid sensor, that
is humpered by too much moisture (fog) in the ultra.

Ventana said the slides are the culprit (like every time). We took they
recommended from Leica. And had the same troubles.
After that no one really had an idea. Now we've got a new Ultra. Tomorrow I
know more, if it was the instrument or the reagens.

Our Ultra is now about two years old and has been running quite 24 hours a
day
I also have the suspiscion, that the spinning arm and the hammer are the
cause. 

Please tell me more about your troubles. And how you fixed it.
Kind regards
Gudrun

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Has anyone encountered incorrect/inappropriate staining using the Ultra?
Twice we have had slides that looked like they had the wrong antibody
applied, although the slides and dispensers were labeled correctly (once
with TTF-1, once with p16; both had membranous staining).  I was wondering
if where the reagent wheel both spins and moves on the arm, occasionally it
doesn't quite make it to the dispenser it is supposed to and applies the
wrong one.  Does anyone have any experience/ideas as to why this might
happen?

thank you!



Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Assistant Histology Supervisor
Dahl-Chase Diagnostic Services
417 State Street, Suite 540
Bangor, ME 04401
cthorn...@dahlchase.com


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[Histonet] Wrinkle Out

2012-11-26 Thread Grantham, Andrea L - (algranth)
Good morning!
Is anybody using this product, Wrinkle Out Water Bath H@O, in their waterbaths 
and what precautions are you taking if so?
The label states that the product is highly toxic, a hepatoxin.
I received a sample of it and wasn't aware of its toxicity before I requested 
the sample at the NSH S/C.

Thanks!

Andi Grantham




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Senior Research Specialist
University of Arizona
Cellular and Molecular Medicine
Histology Service Laboratory
P.O.Box 245044
Tucson, AZ 85724

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[Histonet] 88305TC starting to hit the fan...

2012-11-26 Thread Joanne
Mr. Buesa . . .You're always a voice of reason.   Thank you!!
 

 
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Re: [Histonet] Wrinkle Out

2012-11-26 Thread Rene J Buesa
Avoid all those dangers and just add any liquid soap at 0.5% in your water bath 
with the same effects
René J.

From: Grantham, Andrea L - (algranth) algra...@email.arizona.edu
To: HISTONET histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:47 AM
Subject: [Histonet] Wrinkle Out

Good morning!
Is anybody using this product, Wrinkle Out Water Bath H@O, in their waterbaths 
and what precautions are you taking if so?
The label states that the product is highly toxic, a hepatoxin.
I received a sample of it and wasn't aware of its toxicity before I requested 
the sample at the NSH S/C.

Thanks!

Andi Grantham




Andrea Grantham, HT (ASCP)
Senior Research Specialist
University of Arizona
Cellular and Molecular Medicine
Histology Service Laboratory
P.O.Box 245044
Tucson, AZ 85724

algra...@email.arizona.edumailto:algra...@email.arizona.edu
Tel: 520.626.4415    Fax: 520.626.2097

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[Histonet] Rabbit/Mouse Polymer Detection Kit Recommendation?

2012-11-26 Thread Sandy's Mail
Hello all,

We were using (with great success) the Max Vision Max
Poly-Two with our mostly DAKO antibodies on our Lab Vision autostainer.
Mostly canine and feline tissues, mostly tumor markers. We were so happy.
Better quality, great specificity, great reproducibility, and half the price
of the Lab Vision polymer detection kit. Now, Max Vision is discontinuing
their IHC line, and we are filled with woe and wringing our collective
histology hands. 

Any recommendations for a quality rabbit/mouse polymer
detection kit would be most appreciated.

 

Thank you,

Sandy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Histonet] Wrinkle Out

2012-11-26 Thread Amanda Kelley
Rene,
Does the soap affect IHC or ISH stains?
Amanda


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Avoid all those dangers and just add any liquid soap at 0.5% in your water
 bath with the same effects
 René J.

 From: Grantham, Andrea L - (algranth) algra...@email.arizona.edu
 To: HISTONET histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:47 AM
 Subject: [Histonet] Wrinkle Out

 Good morning!
 Is anybody using this product, Wrinkle Out Water Bath H@O, in their
 waterbaths and what precautions are you taking if so?
 The label states that the product is highly toxic, a hepatoxin.
 I received a sample of it and wasn't aware of its toxicity before I
 requested the sample at the NSH S/C.

 Thanks!

 Andi Grantham




 Andrea Grantham, HT (ASCP)
 Senior Research Specialist
 University of Arizona
 Cellular and Molecular Medicine
 Histology Service Laboratory
 P.O.Box 245044
 Tucson, AZ 85724

 algra...@email.arizona.edumailto:algra...@email.arizona.edu
 Tel: 520.626.4415Fax: 520.626.2097

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[Histonet] RE: Wrinkle Out Water Bath

2012-11-26 Thread gayle callis
You wrote: 

Is anybody using this product, Wrinkle Out Water Bath H
http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet @t O, in their
waterbaths and what precautions are you taking if so?
The label states that the product is highly toxic, a hepatoxin.
I received a sample of it and wasn't aware of its toxicity before I
requested the sample at the NSH S/C.


In reading the MSDS for this product, all it contains is 1% isopropyl, 18%
Ethanol, and 1% methanol citing possible damage to liver.  Why not avoid
spending the money and just use 20% ethanol in your water bath according to
how this product is used.It will work just as well as this.You could
even make up your own mixture with isopropyl and ethanol, forget the more
toxic and expensive methanol.   These alcohols are all used for tissue
processing e.g. denatured reagent alcohols, isopropyl, ethanol and/or
methanol alone, and just as toxic to the liver. 
 
Beware!  Too high of an alcohol concentration can cause your sections to
explode on a warm water bath.  We never used alcohol in warm water bath to
flatten tissue sections.  Instead, we used RT 10% ethyl alcohol in a glass
staining dish, floated a section on this, picked up section onto a slide
then went to a warm water bath, gently lowered the section but kept top
paraffin portion of section on the slide, and watch the section flatten in
the warm water.   This prevented a section from exploding wildly or losing
the section on the water bath. All the alcohol or a detergent does is
reduce the surface tension of the water so the section flattens.   Tween 20
has been used too. 
 
I don't think any of these damage IHC since the antigens are still protected
by the paraffin in the tissue section.   
 
Gayle Callis
HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)
Bozeman MT 
 
 

 

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[Histonet] Rabbit/Mouse Polymer Detection Kit Recommendation?

2012-11-26 Thread gayle callis
Biocare and Golden Bridge International have kits.I believe Vector can
be added to this group too.  

 

Gayle Callis

HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)

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[Histonet] Re: GMS fungus control

2012-11-26 Thread Bob Richmond
Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASCP)QIHC at Dahl-Chase Diagnostic Services,
Bangor, Maine asks:

What is everyone using for their fungus control for GMS? We have always used 
pneumocystis when looking for pneumocystis, and Aspergillus when looking for 
fungus, but wondering if anyone uses any type of fungus just to see that 
stain worked properly. We are having difficulty locating tissue for both 
pneumo and Aspergillus, and are trying to avoid buying commercial QC slides.

It's preferable to have a pneumocystis control when needed.
Histoplasma is the best fungus control, when you can get it, because
it's the most difficult to stain. In ordinary surgical material,
aspergillus is most often seen in paranasal sinus material.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN

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[Histonet] Ultra

2012-11-26 Thread Bruce Gapinski
I too have had problems with my Ultra. I am so glad I place a control at the 
top of every slide. Sometimes no Hematoxylin, sometimes no positive staining. 
I've documented half a dozen cases.
One thing we noticed is that the antibody vials get plugged up 
from the protein in the antibody. We inspect every vial before we place it on 
the instrument. The other thing we look for is antibody in the spout of the 
vial. It will recede. Called Ventana, and they said  There are plenty of extra 
drops in the vial, so prime the vial. Bad advise, here's why. The instrument 
has no idea how many drops are disposed of during priming. So we ended up with 
another bunch of primaries with no drops left. Now we prime without expelling 
any reagent and how that works better.
With this problem I feel Ventana owes us URA (Ultimate Reagent 
Access) then we can prime as we go.

Bruce Gapinsk HT (ASCP)
Chief Histologist
Marin Medical Laboratories
PathGroup SF




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RE: [Histonet] Ultra

2012-11-26 Thread Daniel Hewitt
We have the same issue from time to time on our Ultra, our vortex mixers
seem to clog after about 3-4 months of use. The engineer comes in,
unclogs them and everything is good for another 3-4 months. They have
never really been able to figure it out why they clog but, but
thankfully the service is still covered, just a large nuisance.

Daniel Hewitt
Histology Supervisor, HVS
412-749-7371

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 1:50 PM
To: 'cthorn...@dahlchase.com'; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] Ultra

I too have had problems with my Ultra. I am so glad I place a control at
the top of every slide. Sometimes no Hematoxylin, sometimes no positive
staining. I've documented half a dozen cases.
One thing we noticed is that the antibody vials get
plugged up from the protein in the antibody. We inspect every vial
before we place it on the instrument. The other thing we look for is
antibody in the spout of the vial. It will recede. Called Ventana, and
they said  There are plenty of extra drops in the vial, so prime the
vial. Bad advise, here's why. The instrument has no idea how many drops
are disposed of during priming. So we ended up with another bunch of
primaries with no drops left. Now we prime without expelling any reagent
and how that works better.
With this problem I feel Ventana owes us URA (Ultimate
Reagent Access) then we can prime as we go.

Bruce Gapinsk HT (ASCP)
Chief Histologist
Marin Medical Laboratories
PathGroup SF




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