[Histonet] Re: Helicobacter stains and controls

2013-01-05 Thread Bob Richmond
There are four broad choices for staining Helicobacter.

1. Rely on H  E alone. Some people claim it works, but I can't find
them unless they're all over the place.

2. Thiazine dye methods. The simplest is the blue dye mix Diff-Quik II
(or a generic equivalent, all of which work in my experience), the
next a Giemsa stain, and it's possible to complicate them considerably
more.

3. Silver stains such as Steiner's. They work, but they're a lot of
trouble and the tissue often falls off the slide. I have almost no
experience with them.

4. Immunostains. More expensive to do, but a lot faster for the
pathologist to read.

I haven't seen a study comparing the sensitivity of these methods. My
personal opinion is that I'm OK with Diff-Quik II if I'm seeing one
gastric biopsy a day, but I want IHC if I'm going to be seeing ten of
them. With the dye method I often have to resort to oil immersion
magnification, where with IHC I barely need to use a high-dry lens.

Helicobacter controls: Not really necessary, but should be done
anyway. You need the co-operation of your pathologist in finding
positives suitable for use as controls. One gastrectomy specimen can
of course set you up for life, but these are pretty rare these days.

Some additional points: many pathologists don't understand that not
all bacteria they see in the stomach are Helicobacter - morphologic
criteria must be observed. (IHC gets around this problem.)

There is another, rather rare Helicobacter that causes peptic ulcer
disease, with different morphology (a tight corkscrew rather than a
gull wing) - Helicobacter heilmanii. Supposedly IHC picks it up.

There's controversy as to whether all gastric biopsy specimens need a
stain of some kind, or only the ones with acute inflammation
(confusingly called chronic active gastritis).

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN

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[Histonet] Re: Pathologists' Names on HE Labels

2013-01-05 Thread Bob Richmond
Pathologist's name on the slide? I'd just like to see the patient's
name on the slide. It helps me not mix up cases, but the old-timer
histotechnologists really resist it.

I guess you can legal-beagle reasons not to put the pathologist's name
on the slide, but I don't see anything wrong with it. Seems like
initials would suffice.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN

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[Histonet] Fw: PSCA Primary antibody

2013-01-05 Thread dusko trajkovic


Hallo Histonetters,
Happy New Year!!
I'm looking for information on a PSCA (Prostate Specific Cell antigen) antibody 
that will work both in human and primate.
If are are using this antibody, please contact me. Any information would be 
appreciated.
thanks
Dusko Trajkovic
858-638-6202
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[Histonet] Re: CAP guideline for fixation time for ER/PR/HER2

2013-01-05 Thread Bob Richmond
Time of fixation before ER/PR/HER2:

I haven't had much luck with getting this information. Nobody wants to
deal with the communication issues.

Needle biopsy specimens should be popped into formalin as soon as they
are out of the patient, and the time recorded. What you can't find out
is whether they are willing to fix the specimens before they take the
time to X-ray them. Attempts to find out what they're doing are
futile.

To the OR nurse, a specimen is perfectly fixed all the way through the
instant she drops it into formalin, whether a small lumpectomy or a
Dolly-sized mammoon. Eventually we're going to have to realize that
larger specimens (more than needle biopsy size) require prompt
dissection before fixation, if special studies are to be done.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN

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Re: [Histonet] Re: Pathologists' Names on HE Labels

2013-01-05 Thread Daniel Schneider
You can get Sharpies and highlighters in at least 7 different colors. We
color code the pathologists (Dr's Red, Blue, Pink, Orange, Purple, Green,
and Yellow.)   The Sharpies and highlighters are distributed in the
appropriate departments, and the slides and paperwork get a quick mark of
color to facilitate their delivery to the appropriate pathologist.

Dan Schneider
Amarillo, TX

On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Bob Richmond rsrichm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pathologist's name on the slide? I'd just like to see the patient's
 name on the slide. It helps me not mix up cases, but the old-timer
 histotechnologists really resist it.

 I guess you can legal-beagle reasons not to put the pathologist's name
 on the slide, but I don't see anything wrong with it. Seems like
 initials would suffice.

 Bob Richmond
 Samurai Pathologist
 Maryville TN

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[Histonet] holly nuclei bat man

2013-01-05 Thread Patsy Ruegg
Happy New Year everyone!

 

Can we start a discussion once again on what causes holes in nuclei?  It is
pretty clear in my experience it has something to do with heating at least
for me with antigen retrieval.  When I do HIER at ph 8 especially I am
seeing a lot of holes in nuclei.  HE on same tissue alone without HIER/IHC
doesn't seem to exhibit this artifact (holes in the nuclei).  I bet it can
also happen if the tissue is not fixed well enough to protect it from
paraffin processing but right now I am seeing it more after HIER, don't see
it as much on my IHC slides with no AR or when I use eier instead of hier.
Also notice that ph6 HIER and Ph9 HIER are not as bad as when I use Ph8 for
the same times and temps. 

 

Cheers,

 

Patsy

 

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC

Ruegg IHC Consulting, LLC

40864 Arkansas Ave

Bennett, CO 80102

Fax: 720-859-4110

 mailto:pru...@ihctech.net pru...@ihctech.net

 

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