[Histonet] RE: Two Patient Identifiers on slides

2013-07-31 Thread Tom McNemar
Our cassettes are printed with the accession number, patient name, and a 
barcode that also contains the DOB.  When sectioning, this barcode is scanned 
at the microtome when the slides are cut.  Labels are printed, again at the 
microtome, and the slides are labeled.  The slide label contains the accession 
number, patient name, level number or special stain, the pathologist's 
initials, and the hospital address.

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Co-ordinator
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
(740) 348-4166
tmcne...@lmhealth.org
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jean Wood
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:37 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

Hello Histonetters,

   Recently we started utilizing a slide labeling component that is built 
into our AP Easy LIS system and has accession number, levels and patients first 
and last name when labels are printed out. Dymo does not have a chemically 
resistant label (we have a Dymo 450 printer) and we have been putting the 
labels on AFTER the slides are stained and cover slipped.

In the meantime, the HT is writing in pencil the accession # and levels on the 
slide which is then covered up with the permanent label after cover slipping. 
Our Lab Manager is worried that we are not compliant as we do not have two 
patient identifiers on throughout the whole process (she wants us to write 
patient names on slides in pencil (before staining) and then cover that up with 
the pre-printed label after staining.

1. What is everyone else doing?
2. Have any of you found a chemically resistant label compatible with the Dymo 
labeler?


Jean Wood BS, HT
Fairchild Medical Center Pathology Dept.
Ph:530.841.6243 Fax:530.841.6232
jw...@fairchildmed.orgmailto:jw...@fairchildmed.org
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[Histonet] New Job Opportunity - Field Histology Applications Specialist

2013-07-31 Thread Matt Ward
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AW: [Histonet] nanodrop of DNA preps from paraffin sections

2013-07-31 Thread Gudrun Lang
It depends on...
We isolate DNA from very small biopsies -- 10-40 ng/µl (10 slices, measured
with Qubit; Nanodrop is usuall about 2-3 fold more).
From surgical tissue -- 50-150 ng/µl (1 cm2, 3-4 slices)

We use the Qiacube with filter columns for isolation, so too much DNA would
be sticking in the silicate-membrane.

What is the question behind your question?
Gudrun

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Patrick
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2013 01:13
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Betreff: [Histonet] nanodrop of DNA preps from paraffin sections

Hi Everyone,

Just out of curiosity, what sort of nanodrop values do you typically get
with DNA extractions from paraffin sections.

I usually get around 100 ng/uL, depending on tissue size, and the number of
churls I take. Around 80% are 100 ng to 200 ng/uL.

Rarely, I get as high as 1000 ng/uL, 0-5% of the samples I take.
Occasionally I get 10-40 ng/uL 5-15% of the samples I take.

I primarily extract from tonsil, but I have done several other tissue types.

Patrick.

I also primarily use QIAgen Mini kits.


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[Histonet] polyomavirus antigen immunostain in urine cytology specimens

2013-07-31 Thread Pathrm35



Fellow techs, 



Does any one have any experience with a immunostain for a polyomavirus antigen 
in urine cytology specimens? 



Thanks, 

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[Histonet] Shipping Slides

2013-07-31 Thread Debbie Granato
Good Morning!
 
Can anyone tell me the best way that you have found to ship slides by Fed Ex?
 I need to send several cases out and want the safest way possible to eliminate 
broken slides.
We have tried plastic slide boxes with gauze for cushioning and then taped shut 
and a few other ways. Are there special transport slide containers, other than 
the 5 slide holders.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
 
Thank you,
Debbie Granato HT(ASCP)
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Re: [Histonet] RE: Two Patient Identifiers on slides

2013-07-31 Thread Benjamin
I often see blocks from many institutions that only have surgical numbers on 
them, then after the slides are always expected to have both. Seems like blocks 
are the only exception to this rule, but it is probably just a commonly 
practiced noncompliancy type of thing more than an exception.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 30, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Boyd, Debbie M dkb...@chs.net wrote:

 Your manager is correct.  You must have two patient identifiers through the 
 whole process.  We write the full name, accession number and designation ( a, 
 b L1 ) on each slide.  I have had both CAP and Joint Commission inspectors 
 pull the labels back looking for 2 identifiers.  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jean Wood
 Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:37 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides
 
 Hello Histonetters,
 
   Recently we started utilizing a slide labeling component that is built 
 into our AP Easy LIS system and has accession number, levels and patients 
 first and last name when labels are printed out. Dymo does not have a 
 chemically resistant label (we have a Dymo 450 printer) and we have been 
 putting the labels on AFTER the slides are stained and cover slipped.
 
 In the meantime, the HT is writing in pencil the accession # and levels on 
 the slide which is then covered up with the permanent label after cover 
 slipping. Our Lab Manager is worried that we are not compliant as we do not 
 have two patient identifiers on throughout the whole process (she wants us to 
 write patient names on slides in pencil (before staining) and then cover that 
 up with the pre-printed label after staining.
 
 1. What is everyone else doing?
 2. Have any of you found a chemically resistant label compatible with the 
 Dymo labeler?
 
 
 Jean Wood BS, HT
 Fairchild Medical Center Pathology Dept.
 Ph:530.841.6243 Fax:530.841.6232
 jw...@fairchildmed.orgmailto:jw...@fairchildmed.org
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[Histonet] Louisiana Position

2013-07-31 Thread Hale, Meredith
Great full time opportunity  for  a Histotechnician  in Shreveport, Louisiana ! 
Regional Urology   is looking for a certified HT  or HTL to join their  
laboratory . Candidate must meet the following criteria:

* Meet CLIA Grossing Requirements : CFR  493.1489,  
http://wwwn.cdc.gov/clia/regs/toc.aspx/ ,prior experience grossing GI specimens

* HT ASCP Certified
Duties include:

* Grossing

* Cytology preparation

* Embedding

* Microtomy

* Staining

* Ability to be flexible and take on additional duties' as needed


This is a full  time position  that offers a competitive rate and flexible 
hours.  Interested applicants should contact Meredith Hale; phone 214-596-2219 
or through email mh...@miracals.commailto:mh...@miracals.com


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Director External Sales Support

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Re: [Histonet] Shipping Slides

2013-07-31 Thread Benjamin
We use a rectangular cut bubble wrap inside the box on top of the slides, then 
wrap the entire box in bubble wrap a few times around. Its the best skill to 
teach your interns, cutting bubble wrap, boxing it up and bringing to fedex, 
then picking up coffee on the way back! Some slide boxes come with bubble wrap 
from the vendor, we save those and use when shipping also.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Debbie Granato debgran...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Good Morning!
  
 Can anyone tell me the best way that you have found to ship slides by Fed Ex?
  I need to send several cases out and want the safest way possible to 
 eliminate broken slides.
 We have tried plastic slide boxes with gauze for cushioning and then taped 
 shut and a few other ways. Are there special transport slide containers, 
 other than the 5 slide holders.
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
  
 Thank you,
 Debbie Granato HT(ASCP)
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two Patient Identifiers on slides

2013-07-31 Thread Hawkins, Hal K.

I notice the new AP checklists effective 7/31/2013 do not include ANP.11800.


From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Lisa Hamilton 
[lhamil...@wcplaboratories.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:09 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Two Patient Identifiers on slides

The Two Identifiers are for Intra-Operative (frozen section) slides
only, not routine HE slides *ANP.11800*  at least so far! Routine
slide information is listed under *ANP.21050 Specimen Identity*

-Lisa H.

On 7/30/2013 1:41 PM, Boyd, Debbie M wrote:
 Your manager is correct.  You must have two patient identifiers through the 
 whole process.  We write the full name, accession number and designation ( a, 
 b L1 ) on each slide.  I have had both CAP and Joint Commission inspectors 
 pull the labels back looking for 2 identifiers.

 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jean Wood
 Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:37 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

 Hello Histonetters,

 Recently we started utilizing a slide labeling component that is 
 built into our AP Easy LIS system and has accession number, levels and 
 patients first and last name when labels are printed out. Dymo does not have 
 a chemically resistant label (we have a Dymo 450 printer) and we have been 
 putting the labels on AFTER the slides are stained and cover slipped.

 In the meantime, the HT is writing in pencil the accession # and levels on 
 the slide which is then covered up with the permanent label after cover 
 slipping. Our Lab Manager is worried that we are not compliant as we do not 
 have two patient identifiers on throughout the whole process (she wants us to 
 write patient names on slides in pencil (before staining) and then cover that 
 up with the pre-printed label after staining.

 1. What is everyone else doing?
 2. Have any of you found a chemically resistant label compatible with the 
 Dymo labeler?


 Jean Wood BS, HT
 Fairchild Medical Center Pathology Dept.
 Ph:530.841.6243 Fax:530.841.6232
 jw...@fairchildmed.orgmailto:jw...@fairchildmed.org
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[Histonet] Seeking part time position

2013-07-31 Thread Jackie O'Connor

Posting for a friend who is a highly qualified histotech, looking for a 2-3 day 
per week permanent position in Northern Illinois. Got a job?  Please send me 
your contact information, or I can provide information to you privately.
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RE: [Histonet] Shipping Slides

2013-07-31 Thread Esther C Peters
The trick to successful shipping is to make sure the slides cannot rattle in 
the slide box. If you put your tissue, gauze, or bubble wrap layer on top and 
shut the box, shake gently to see if they can move. If so, you can put a piece 
of tape across all the slides in the box to anchor them in place (stick the 
tape ends to the outside of the box. Then make sure the box is securely shut, 
putting tape or rubber bands around the outside in both directions. Then pack 
in a well-padded sturdy shipping box!

Esther C. Peters, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Environmental Science  Policy
George Mason University


From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Rathborne, Toni 
[trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:38 AM
To: 'Debbie Granato'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Shipping Slides

If the slides are well dried, you can also bunch them together and wrap in a 
paper towel if you don't have too many. Tape when wrapped, then place in a 
slide box and insert in a padded envelope for shipping.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Debbie Granato
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:05 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Shipping Slides

Good Morning!

Can anyone tell me the best way that you have found to ship slides by Fed Ex?
 I need to send several cases out and want the safest way possible to eliminate 
broken slides.
We have tried plastic slide boxes with gauze for cushioning and then taped shut 
and a few other ways. Are there special transport slide containers, other than 
the 5 slide holders.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you,
Debbie Granato HT(ASCP)
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RE: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

2013-07-31 Thread hymclab
The below statement is correct and our last Joint Commission inpector clarified 
that the 2 patient identifier rule only applies to the specimen containers 
coming in the door.  Once they are accessioned in Path you can label slides and 
blocks with only the accession number and do not need the 2 patient identifiers 
on them.  We do make sure the patient name is on the side of the block if we 
send out just for completeness sakr and all of out final slides labels have the 
patient name on them as well.


Dawn D. Schneider, HT(ASCP)
Lead HT
Howard Young Medical Center
240 Maple Ave.
Woodruff, WI 54558
715-356-8174

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joe W. Walker, 
Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:31 PM
To: Michelle Moore; Jean Wood; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

I don't think this is technically correct according to the CAP.  The question 
in the most recent checklist states:

**REVISED** 07/11/2011

ANP.52000 Specimen ID   Phase II
The identity of every specimen and image, including blocks, slides, and 
electron micrographs, is maintained through each step in processing.

NOTE: Each block of tissue must be individually labeled with unique patient 
identifier(s), e.g.
accession number etched onto the block or embedded into it. Storage of 
unlabeled blocks in separate containers that are labeled with patient number or 
name does not meet this requirement.
Evidence of Compliance:

✓ Written procedure describing system for maintaining specimen identity

This question does not state that 2 identifiers must be on the slides and 
blocks, etc.  It states it must be a unique identifier throughout the process.  
A specimen accession number would technically suffice.  You can add additional 
identifiers if that helps in your process but they are not required.

I believe that this is often confused with the General lab question GEN.40491 
which requires that any specimen that is collected and submitted to the lab 
must have 2 unique identifiers on it.  Once the specimen is in the lab, the 
unique accession number would suffice.

Now, if you are utilizing the 2 identifiers to help prevent mislabeling, then I 
think it is a good idea as an extra precaution step.  We are fortunate to have 
a xylene resistant label and printer that allows us to label the slides prior 
to processing.

My two cents as a manager,

Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP)CM
Anatomical Pathology Manager
Rutland Regional Medical Center
160 Allen Street, Rutland, VT 05701
P: 802.747.1790  F: 802.747.6525
Email joewal...@rrmc.orgwww.rrmc.org

Our Vision:
To be the Best Community Healthcare System in New England

Rutland Regional…Vermont’s 1st Hospital to Achieve Both ANCC Magnet 
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michelle Moore
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:46 PM
To: Jean Wood; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

We are writing path #, date of birth  patient initials as identifiers. Michelle



From: Jean Wood jw...@fairchildmed.org
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:37 PM
Subject: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides


Hello Histonetters,

  Recently we started utilizing a slide labeling component that is built 
into our AP Easy LIS system and has accession number, levels and patients first 
and last name when labels are printed out. Dymo does not have a chemically 
resistant label (we have a Dymo 450 printer) and we have been putting the 
labels on AFTER the slides are stained and cover slipped.

In the meantime, the HT is writing in pencil the accession # and levels on the 
slide which is then covered up with the permanent label after cover slipping. 
Our Lab Manager is worried that we are not compliant as we do not have two 
patient identifiers on throughout the whole process (she wants us to write 
patient names on slides in pencil (before staining) and then cover that up with 
the pre-printed label after staining.

1. What is everyone else doing?
2. Have any of you found a chemically resistant label compatible with the Dymo 
labeler?


Jean Wood BS, HT
Fairchild Medical Center Pathology Dept.
Ph:530.841.6243 Fax:530.841.6232
jw...@fairchildmed.orgmailto:jw...@fairchildmed.org
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Re: [Histonet] Background on Jones Stain

2013-07-31 Thread Jay Lundgren
I'd guess it's silver residue.  For some reason, non-specific silver is
sticking to the new slides.  Why don't you just buy a case of your old
slides to keep around for the Jones stain?

 Sincerely,


 Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP)


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Vickroy, Jim vickroy@mhsil.com wrote:


 Recently we switched to a different hydrophilic slide for our special
 stains and IHC stains.   Everything is working great except for one
 stain..the Jones Silver stain.  There is a brown stain all over the
 slide except where the tissue is.   It appears that the Jones has worked.
  Everyone of our other silver stains work fine with this new slide.   We
 use Ventana stainers and when we use a different hydrophilic slide or even
 some hydrophobic slides the Jones does not have this background stain all
 over the slide.   Any ideas on what is happening or has anyone else
 experienced this problem?

 James Vickroy BS, HT(ASCP)

 Surgical  and Autopsy Pathology Technical Supervisor
 Memorial Medical Center
 217-788-4046


 
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two Patient Identifiers on slides

2013-07-31 Thread Pratt, Caroline
Just for clarification, patient first and last name? Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom
McNemar
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:49 AM
To: 'Jean Wood'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Two Patient Identifiers on slides

Our cassettes are printed with the accession number, patient name, and a
barcode that also contains the DOB.  When sectioning, this barcode is
scanned at the microtome when the slides are cut.  Labels are printed,
again at the microtome, and the slides are labeled.  The slide label
contains the accession number, patient name, level number or special
stain, the pathologist's initials, and the hospital address.

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Co-ordinator
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
(740) 348-4166
tmcne...@lmhealth.org
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jean
Wood
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:37 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

Hello Histonetters,

   Recently we started utilizing a slide labeling component that is
built into our AP Easy LIS system and has accession number, levels and
patients first and last name when labels are printed out. Dymo does not
have a chemically resistant label (we have a Dymo 450 printer) and we
have been putting the labels on AFTER the slides are stained and cover
slipped.

In the meantime, the HT is writing in pencil the accession # and levels
on the slide which is then covered up with the permanent label after
cover slipping. Our Lab Manager is worried that we are not compliant as
we do not have two patient identifiers on throughout the whole process
(she wants us to write patient names on slides in pencil (before
staining) and then cover that up with the pre-printed label after
staining.

1. What is everyone else doing?
2. Have any of you found a chemically resistant label compatible with
the Dymo labeler?


Jean Wood BS, HT
Fairchild Medical Center Pathology Dept.
Ph:530.841.6243 Fax:530.841.6232
jw...@fairchildmed.orgmailto:jw...@fairchildmed.org
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RE: [Histonet] Recycled Xylene

2013-07-31 Thread McAnn, Sherrian
We do our own recycling of alcohol and xylene.  W e use the recycled
xylene for everything including cleaning the processors.. No
problems..been using it for years

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Subject: [Histonet] Recycled Xylene

Does anyone out there have any problems with using recycled xylene to
clean the tissue processor?   I was just told that we should not use
recycled xylene to clean the tissue processor.  How about using recycled
xylene for either processing or staining?

Laurie Colbert, HT (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
PATH MD
8158 Beverly Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA  90048
(323) 648-3214 direct
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RE: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

2013-07-31 Thread Pratt, Caroline
My understanding was the same as Joe's and at least to date, that is what we 
have presented during survey and it has been deemed acceptable.  However, we 
are accredited by TJC not CAP.  My question to those of you who are providing 2 
patient identifiers on blocks?  How do you make it fit?  If anyone could scan 
an image to caroline.pr...@uphs.upenn.edu I would greatly appreciate it!  As of 
now, we have the unique patient accession number and a barcode with the 
accession number as well.  We are in our survey window I would like to be sure 
we are compliant.  

One more question, if you label slides and blocks with a name and DOB from the 
requisition and find out during insurance validation that the name is 
misspelled or the DOB is inaccurate, how do you handle that?  Thanks for your 
help.

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joe W. Walker, 
Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:31 PM
To: Michelle Moore; Jean Wood; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

I don't think this is technically correct according to the CAP.  The question 
in the most recent checklist states:

**REVISED** 07/11/2011

ANP.52000 Specimen ID   Phase II
The identity of every specimen and image, including blocks, slides, and 
electron micrographs, is maintained through each step in processing.

NOTE: Each block of tissue must be individually labeled with unique patient 
identifier(s), e.g.
accession number etched onto the block or embedded into it. Storage of 
unlabeled blocks in separate containers that are labeled with patient number or 
name does not meet this requirement.
Evidence of Compliance:

✓ Written procedure describing system for maintaining specimen identity

This question does not state that 2 identifiers must be on the slides and 
blocks, etc.  It states it must be a unique identifier throughout the process.  
A specimen accession number would technically suffice.  You can add additional 
identifiers if that helps in your process but they are not required.

I believe that this is often confused with the General lab question GEN.40491 
which requires that any specimen that is collected and submitted to the lab 
must have 2 unique identifiers on it.  Once the specimen is in the lab, the 
unique accession number would suffice.

Now, if you are utilizing the 2 identifiers to help prevent mislabeling, then I 
think it is a good idea as an extra precaution step.  We are fortunate to have 
a xylene resistant label and printer that allows us to label the slides prior 
to processing.

My two cents as a manager,

Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP)CM
Anatomical Pathology Manager
Rutland Regional Medical Center
160 Allen Street, Rutland, VT 05701
P: 802.747.1790  F: 802.747.6525
Email joewal...@rrmc.orgwww.rrmc.org

Our Vision:
To be the Best Community Healthcare System in New England

Rutland Regional…Vermont’s 1st Hospital to Achieve Both ANCC Magnet 
Recognition® and the Governor’s Award for Performance Excellence


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michelle Moore
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:46 PM
To: Jean Wood; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

We are writing path #, date of birth  patient initials as identifiers. Michelle



From: Jean Wood jw...@fairchildmed.org
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:37 PM
Subject: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides


Hello Histonetters,

  Recently we started utilizing a slide labeling component that is built 
into our AP Easy LIS system and has accession number, levels and patients first 
and last name when labels are printed out. Dymo does not have a chemically 
resistant label (we have a Dymo 450 printer) and we have been putting the 
labels on AFTER the slides are stained and cover slipped.

In the meantime, the HT is writing in pencil the accession # and levels on the 
slide which is then covered up with the permanent label after cover slipping. 
Our Lab Manager is worried that we are not compliant as we do not have two 
patient identifiers on throughout the whole process (she wants us to write 
patient names on slides in pencil (before staining) and then cover that up with 
the pre-printed label after staining.

1. What is everyone else doing?
2. Have any of you found a chemically resistant label compatible with the Dymo 
labeler?


Jean Wood BS, HT
Fairchild Medical Center Pathology Dept.
Ph:530.841.6243 Fax:530.841.6232
jw...@fairchildmed.orgmailto:jw...@fairchildmed.org
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Two Patient Identifiers on slides

2013-07-31 Thread Marcum, Pamela A
We use the surgical case number and a minimum of the first 5 letters of the 
patients name on barcode labeled cassettes and then that code will be 
transferred to the slides as they are printed.  We have found that having two 
identifiers on every cassette and slide has saved us when an error was made 
with the cassette labeling or slide labeling process.  It has been a way to 
confirm or clear up an issue very quickly.  Whether it is required or not; at 
this point we will continue to use both identifiers for both the patient's 
safety and our ability to backtrack/clear issues of possible miss 
identification of a cassette or slide.  We are all human and mistakes happen so 
plan a way to limit the possibilities. 

Pam Marcum
UAMS

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pratt, Caroline
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:47 PM
To: Tom McNemar; Jean Wood; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Two Patient Identifiers on slides

Just for clarification, patient first and last name? Thanks!

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tom McNemar
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:49 AM
To: 'Jean Wood'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Two Patient Identifiers on slides

Our cassettes are printed with the accession number, patient name, and a 
barcode that also contains the DOB.  When sectioning, this barcode is scanned 
at the microtome when the slides are cut.  Labels are printed, again at the 
microtome, and the slides are labeled.  The slide label contains the accession 
number, patient name, level number or special stain, the pathologist's 
initials, and the hospital address.

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Co-ordinator
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
(740) 348-4166
tmcne...@lmhealth.org
www.LMHealth.org


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jean Wood
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:37 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

Hello Histonetters,

   Recently we started utilizing a slide labeling component that is built 
into our AP Easy LIS system and has accession number, levels and patients first 
and last name when labels are printed out. Dymo does not have a chemically 
resistant label (we have a Dymo 450 printer) and we have been putting the 
labels on AFTER the slides are stained and cover slipped.

In the meantime, the HT is writing in pencil the accession # and levels on the 
slide which is then covered up with the permanent label after cover slipping. 
Our Lab Manager is worried that we are not compliant as we do not have two 
patient identifiers on throughout the whole process (she wants us to write 
patient names on slides in pencil (before
staining) and then cover that up with the pre-printed label after staining.

1. What is everyone else doing?
2. Have any of you found a chemically resistant label compatible with the Dymo 
labeler?


Jean Wood BS, HT
Fairchild Medical Center Pathology Dept.
Ph:530.841.6243 Fax:530.841.6232
jw...@fairchildmed.orgmailto:jw...@fairchildmed.org
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RE: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

2013-07-31 Thread Marcum, Pamela A
Due to legal issues, if we have a cassette mislabeled we request a cassette 
with the correct patient information immediately and re-embed the block.  
Biopsies are a concern as it is sometimes difficult to re-embed a small tissue, 
so we do our best.  We have had times when we cross out the barcode as we could 
not reliably re-embed and carefully make notes for any future legal problems 
(no matter how unlikely the case may be) to establish the identity clearly.  If 
the slides were cut and we cannot go back to the block due to tissue size or 
disease state we use the same procedure as cassettes and a paper label.  The 
real issue is training everyone to double check the name and case number with 
the paperwork as the cassettes and slides are printed and have no mistakes.  We 
are human and has been proven difficult at times.  

Pam Marcum

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pratt, Caroline
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:14 PM
To: Joe W. Walker, Jr.; Michelle Moore; Jean Wood; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

My understanding was the same as Joe's and at least to date, that is what we 
have presented during survey and it has been deemed acceptable.  However, we 
are accredited by TJC not CAP.  My question to those of you who are providing 2 
patient identifiers on blocks?  How do you make it fit?  If anyone could scan 
an image to caroline.pr...@uphs.upenn.edu I would greatly appreciate it!  As of 
now, we have the unique patient accession number and a barcode with the 
accession number as well.  We are in our survey window I would like to be sure 
we are compliant.  

One more question, if you label slides and blocks with a name and DOB from the 
requisition and find out during insurance validation that the name is 
misspelled or the DOB is inaccurate, how do you handle that?  Thanks for your 
help.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joe W. Walker, 
Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:31 PM
To: Michelle Moore; Jean Wood; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

I don't think this is technically correct according to the CAP.  The question 
in the most recent checklist states:

**REVISED** 07/11/2011

ANP.52000 Specimen ID   Phase II
The identity of every specimen and image, including blocks, slides, and 
electron micrographs, is maintained through each step in processing.

NOTE: Each block of tissue must be individually labeled with unique patient 
identifier(s), e.g.
accession number etched onto the block or embedded into it. Storage of 
unlabeled blocks in separate containers that are labeled with patient number or 
name does not meet this requirement.
Evidence of Compliance:

✓ Written procedure describing system for maintaining specimen identity

This question does not state that 2 identifiers must be on the slides and 
blocks, etc.  It states it must be a unique identifier throughout the process.  
A specimen accession number would technically suffice.  You can add additional 
identifiers if that helps in your process but they are not required.

I believe that this is often confused with the General lab question GEN.40491 
which requires that any specimen that is collected and submitted to the lab 
must have 2 unique identifiers on it.  Once the specimen is in the lab, the 
unique accession number would suffice.

Now, if you are utilizing the 2 identifiers to help prevent mislabeling, then I 
think it is a good idea as an extra precaution step.  We are fortunate to have 
a xylene resistant label and printer that allows us to label the slides prior 
to processing.

My two cents as a manager,

Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP)CM
Anatomical Pathology Manager
Rutland Regional Medical Center
160 Allen Street, Rutland, VT 05701
P: 802.747.1790  F: 802.747.6525
Email joewal...@rrmc.orgwww.rrmc.org

Our Vision:
To be the Best Community Healthcare System in New England

Rutland Regional…Vermont’s 1st Hospital to Achieve Both ANCC Magnet 
Recognition® and the Governor’s Award for Performance Excellence


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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Michelle Moore
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:46 PM
To: Jean Wood; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides

We are writing path #, date of birth  patient initials as identifiers. Michelle



From: Jean Wood jw...@fairchildmed.org
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:37 PM
Subject: [Histonet] Two Patient Identifiers on slides


Hello Histonetters,

  Recently we started 

RE: [Histonet] Shipping Slides

2013-07-31 Thread Bernice Frederick
Same here and then in a box with more bubble wrap or we use some of those 
disposable bench underpads for space filler.

Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Senior Research Tech
Pathology Core Facility
ECOGPCO-RL
Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center
Northwestern University
710 N Fairbanks Court
Olson 8-421
Chicago,IL 60611
312-503-3723
b-freder...@northwestern.edu

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Benjamin
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:18 AM
To: Debbie Granato
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Shipping Slides

We use a rectangular cut bubble wrap inside the box on top of the slides, then 
wrap the entire box in bubble wrap a few times around. Its the best skill to 
teach your interns, cutting bubble wrap, boxing it up and bringing to fedex, 
then picking up coffee on the way back! Some slide boxes come with bubble wrap 
from the vendor, we save those and use when shipping also.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Debbie Granato debgran...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Good Morning!
  
 Can anyone tell me the best way that you have found to ship slides by Fed Ex?
  I need to send several cases out and want the safest way possible to 
 eliminate broken slides.
 We have tried plastic slide boxes with gauze for cushioning and then taped 
 shut and a few other ways. Are there special transport slide containers, 
 other than the 5 slide holders.
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
  
 Thank you,
 Debbie Granato HT(ASCP)
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[Histonet] Collagen IV FITC

2013-07-31 Thread Susan Foreman
Is anyone out there running Collagen IV by FITC?  Derm cases?  Which vendor
are you most happy with?  Any advice on this antibody would be really
appreciated?  

 

Many Thanks,

Susan

 

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[Histonet] Re: Two Patient Identifiers on slides

2013-07-31 Thread Bob Richmond
Realizing we're talking about regulator compliance rather than good sense
here - nonetheless let a pathologist observe that having the patient's name
on the slide is a very important defense against mixing up cases at
sign-out. Small labs still usually have no identifier on the slide other
than a hand-scribbled accession number (two of the three small labs I'm
working in at the moment don't - both CAP accredited), and it's easy for
the pathologist to misread the label. I saw a mixup like this just a few
days ago - it wasn't my case, but I should have caught the misreading when
I reviewed the case, which involved a squamous carcinoma that wasn't.

Good management, bad medicine.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN
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[Histonet] Position in N. Illinois

2013-07-31 Thread Jackie O'Connor

Posting for a friend looking for a permanent 2-3 day a week position in N. 
Illinois. Very qualified histotech.
Please contact me privately.
Jackie O'
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