Re: [Histonet] Von Kossa staining

2023-07-26 Thread John Kiernan via Histonet


Charles,

A handheld light of any kind isn't really suitable because you would have to 
hold it over the slides for 15 to 60 minutes, according to which variant of the 
von Kossa method you plan to use (see Lillie & Fullmer 1976 Histopathologic 
Technic ... 4th ed. pp 539-541).

An anglepoise lamp with an old-fashioned 100W bulb is OK, and so is a sunny 
windowsill. Silver salts absorb at the blue end of the spectrum, so a 
fluorescent light should be more efficient than an incandescent bulb. If no 
bright light source is available, it's possible to chemically reduce the silver 
phosphate and/or carbonate to black colloidal silver, with a traditional 
photographic developer. The method of Rungby et al.1993 may be better than 
other post-reduction methods 
(https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?hl=en_sdt=0%2C5=rungby+1993+calcium+deposits=rungby+1993).
 I never tried it, but Rungby's paper has collected 104 citations, which is 
very good for a paper in our field.

The von Kossa technique is simply explained in my Histological and 
Histochemical Methods textbook, 5th edn (2015). The book costs less than 1ml of 
any antibody.

Enough said!   John
John A. Kiernan
Emeritus, Anatomy & Cell Biology,
University of Western Ontario
London, Canada
https://www.schulich.uwo.ca/anatomy/people/bios/emeriti/kiernan_john.html
Also  Secretary, Biological Stain Commission, Inc.
https://biologicalstaincommission.org
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Can anyone out there who performs Von Kossa staining provide me with any 
guidelines or suggestions for the light source to use for the Silver nitrate 
activation?

Is a standard handheld black light strong enough or does it need to be a UV 
sanitizing strength light if using UV versus incandescent bulb exposure?
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Re: [Histonet] Von Kossa staining

2023-07-26 Thread Debra Siena via Histonet
Hi Charles,

I can't answer your question about UV light as I've never tried it except with 
incandescent lights.  However, I do know that you could use natural sunlight as 
well to develop the silver color change.

I hope that helps,
Thanks






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Can anyone out there who performs Von Kossa staining provide me with any 
guidelines or suggestions for the light source to use for the Silver nitrate 
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Is a standard handheld black light strong enough or does it need to be a UV 
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[Histonet] Von Kossa staining

2023-07-26 Thread Charles Riley via Histonet
Can anyone out there who performs Von Kossa staining provide me with any
guidelines or suggestions for the light source to use for the Silver
nitrate activation?

Is a standard handheld black light strong enough or does it need to be a UV
sanitizing strength light if using UV versus incandescent bulb exposure?
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