Re: [Histonet] Von Kossa staining

2023-07-27 Thread Mayer,Toysha N via Histonet
Charles,

I am going to date myself and tell you that we placed the glass coplin jar on 
the back of the embedder (or in the water bath) added a bankers light and 
wrapped it with foil for 1 hr.

Sincerely,

Toysha N. Mayer, DHSc, MBA, HT (ASCP)
Asst Professor/ Assoc Program Director
HTL Program
UTMDACC
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Today's Topics:

   1. Von Kossa staining (Charles Riley)
   2. Re: Von Kossa staining (Debra Siena)
   3. Re: Von Kossa staining (John Kiernan)
   4. Re: Von Kossa staining (Bernice Frederick)
   5. Re: Von Kossa staining (Mac Donald, Jennifer)


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Can anyone out there who performs Von Kossa staining provide me with any 
guidelines or suggestions for the light source to use for the Silver nitrate 
activation?

Is a standard handheld black light strong enough or does it need to be a UV 
sanitizing strength light if using UV versus incandescent bulb exposure?


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Re: [Histonet] Von Kossa light source

2023-07-27 Thread Terri Braud via Histonet
We've used the UV light for the hood disinfectant, as well as just taken a 
break out in the sunshine.  Both worked just fine

Terri L. Braud, HT(ASCP)
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Holy Redeemer Hospital
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Re: [Histonet] Von Kossa staining

2023-07-27 Thread Mac Donald, Jennifer via Histonet
I have used a UV light like the ones for indoor plants and one that is in the 
fume hood for disinfection.  Both proved successful.
Jennifer

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Can anyone out there who performs Von Kossa staining provide me with any 
guidelines or suggestions for the light source to use for the Silver nitrate 
activation?

Is a standard handheld black light strong enough or does it need to be a UV 
sanitizing strength light if using UV versus incandescent bulb exposure?
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Re: [Histonet] Von Kossa staining

2023-07-27 Thread Bernice Frederick via Histonet
I use a 60 watt bulb and it works fine.
Bernice

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Charles,

A handheld light of any kind isn't really suitable because you would have to 
hold it over the slides for 15 to 60 minutes, according to which variant of the 
von Kossa method you plan to use (see Lillie & Fullmer 1976 Histopathologic 
Technic ... 4th ed. pp 539-541).

An anglepoise lamp with an old-fashioned 100W bulb is OK, and so is a sunny 
windowsill. Silver salts absorb at the blue end of the spectrum, so a 
fluorescent light should be more efficient than an incandescent bulb. If no 
bright light source is available, it's possible to chemically reduce the silver 
phosphate and/or carbonate to black colloidal silver, with a traditional 
photographic developer. The method of Rungby et al.1993 may be better than 
other post-reduction methods 
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 ). I never tried it, but Rungby's paper has collected 104 citations, which is 
very good for a paper in our field.

The von Kossa technique is simply explained in my Histological and 
Histochemical Methods textbook, 5th edn (2015). The book costs less than 1ml of 
any antibody.

Enough said!   John
John A. Kiernan
Emeritus, Anatomy & Cell Biology,
University of Western Ontario
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Can anyone out there who performs Von Kossa staining provide me with any 
guidelines or suggestions for the light source to use for the Silver nitrate 
activation?

Is a standard handheld black light strong enough or does it need to be a UV 
sanitizing strength light if using UV versus incandescent bulb exposure?
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