[Histonet] Number of blocks

2012-10-25 Thread Dorothy Ragland-Glass
It was annouced by a histo lab manager that techs are expected to cut 40-50 
blocks per hour. That seems to me to be rather high. I don't see quality slides 
being turned out. It is quantity and profit above patient care. I am old 
school, and I remember something about quality and patient first. Besides  what 
kind of impact on morality of the techs, back problems and carpal tunnel 
syndrom is laying ahead for the cutter after cranking the microtome repeatedly 
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RE: [Histonet] Number of blocks

2012-10-25 Thread Dorothy Ragland-Glass
No. My main duty is Ihc, but I heard the other techs, mostly the ones new to 
histology and some older techs who informed them on how obsurd and impossible 
that task would be for them to try to live up to that standard. The newbees 
thought that was what the speed of a histotech should be. They were told it did 
not matter what the tissue was accordding to CAP. Us older techs know 
different. But we need written documentation to show the young turks who are 
being bullied.  Is there something to written to give them a leg to stand up.

Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID) j...@cdc.gov wrote:

Absolutely!  40-50 bone marrows is completely different from 40-50 fallopian 
tubes.  Are you just cutting one section per block?

Jeanine H. Bartlett
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Infectious Diseases Pathology Branch
404-639-3590
jeanine.bartl...@cdc.hhs.gov

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Number of blocks 

As a histo lab supervisor I would never ask nor demand that my techs do 
something that I cannot do myself. I would have to say that that number sounds 
a little high to me, but it would depend on the type of specimens being cut.

Just my thought, Mike

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It was annouced by a histo lab manager that techs are expected to cut
40-50 blocks per hour. That seems to me to be rather high. I don't see quality 
slides being turned out. It is quantity and profit above patient care. I am 
old school, and I remember something about quality and patient first. Besides  
what kind of impact on morality of the techs, back problems and carpal tunnel 
syndrom is laying ahead for the cutter after cranking the microtome repeatedly 
that many blocks without a break.


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Re: [Histonet] Number of blocks

2012-10-25 Thread Dorothy Ragland-Glass
Thanks to all that responded to my question on productivity.

Marvin Hanna mha...@histosearch.com wrote:

Hi Rene and Histonetters,

Thanks Rene. I posted the articles on Histosearch.

http://www.histosearch.com/ADP9ProductivityStandards.pdf

http://www.histosearch.com/ADP10StaffingBenchmarks.pdf

Marvin


On 10/25/2012 11:29 AM, Rene J Buesa wrote:
 Hi Marvin:
 See attachments.
 Do you mean that you can post them?
 I have some other articles about histology topics. Can I send them to 
 you as well?
 René J.

 *From:* Marvin Hanna mha...@histosearch.com
 *To:* Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:18 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Histonet] Number of blocks

 Hi Rene,

 Send the attachments to me and I can post them on Histosearch,

 Marvin Hannamailto:webmas...@histosearch.com

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Re: [Histonet] Unregistered techs

2012-05-28 Thread Dorothy Ragland-Glass
Dorothy R. Glass, BS,HTL(ASCP),IHC
   You are so right about  the good old days when you would prove who you were 
and sit for a paper not computer exam at a medical school close to you. I sat 
for the HTL in 1988. I was so proud to call myself a Histologist after being 
trained at a School of Histotechnology and being ASCP certified. NOW you have 
people on the job trained just referring to themselves casually as histotects. 
Not histo trainees. Unfortunate for us older techs, it is very offensive 
considering what we went through in establishing a career not just a job. Some 
reference labs is focusing on hiring aids to later, after a few months train 
them and refer to them as histotechs. I hate it when the term is used so freely.
Sinserely, frustrated HTL


David Kemler histot...@yahoo.com wrote:

Good stuff. In the old days, 36 years ago for me, taking the HT(ASCP) 
exam it was said that you were registered by the ASCP, because the 
designation HT is given by the Board of Registry of the ASCP. Many of the NEW 
folks use the word certified. After a total of 39 years (3 years was 
training before you were eligible) I still only use registered by the ASCP / 
Licensed by the State of Florida and call myself a histologist. 
 
In those days ( long before the Internet), you took your ASCP exam (HT's, 
MT's, CT's, BT's, MLT's) at specially selected medical schools across the US. 
You chose the one giving the exam which was closest to where you lived. If 
you needed to drive 100 miles or further to get to the examining college on 
March 15 OR August 15th, (the only dates it was given) that's what you 
did. Getting into the exam auditorium before you were allowed to sit (that's 
what it was called) for the exam, was a challenge. You had to prove that you 
were who you said you were or you were not getting in. Once those guarded 
doors were closed - they were CLOSED! I saw several folks crying outside the 
auditorium that day n 1975. Chances for cheating were eliminated at every 
turn. Unfortunately, not so today. So you can see why for us older techs, if 
you were HT(ASCP) it really meant something. Unfortunately, not so today. 
 
Yours,
Dave
Histonetters,

I see this subject tends to illicit strong sentiments from
professionals who are impacted or have an impact on HT/HTL's (sort of
everyone on the net)?.

I am still in school, but I want to fully understand how training,
certification, and registration work for HT/HTL’s.  I realize that
ASCP certification is voluntary, and that some States require some
sort of license or certification, but I’ve never heard of a “Registry”
for HT/HTL’s.

-The way I understand through what I’ve been taught at school is that
Histology is the study of tissue, And that...

-To study tissue there is another science that prepares specimens so
they can be studied. And that...

-There is a final sequence “Quality Control” that verifies the science
that prpares specimens is properly done so the tissue can be studied.
And that…

In order for this all to happen successfully and consistently, the
HT/HTL's make sure that during the whole preparation process, safety
is observed, proper adherence to federal and state regulations
maintained, plus train other technicians to do the same, and much
more.

If I understood it all correctly I can’t help but wonder:

If HT/HTL's do all of this crucial preparation work to make sure
specimens are acceptable for precise microscopic identification of
cells, tissue type, diagnosis of disease, and other needs:

Why wouldn't we want to have some method that can gage a set of basic
skills to indicate a level of competency that HT/HTL's should
initially have, in order to enter the field of work that can effect so
many people either directly or indirectly?

And also... Wouldn’t having NAACLS accredited training and ASCP
Certifications serve to gage those basic skills?

And also… Would gaging basic skills have a positive impact on the
quality of patient care and the efficiency of the HT/HTL’s impact on
labs?”

I'm not sure but...this fall… when I complete my NAACLS accredited
degree program, and voluntarily take the ASCP HTL certification exam,
my future employer will be able to expect a certain level of
competency that I hope to have established through training and
certification.

Rick T.

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