RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
Thank u dr.stedman Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Stedman, Nancy nancy.sted...@buschgardens.com Date:03/24/2015 5:22 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Mark Turner mtur...@csilaboratories.com, Paula Sicurello pat...@gmail.com, Michael Ann Jones mjo...@metropath.com Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Timothy Morken timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu, Jennifer MacDonald jmacdon...@mtsac.edu, Marcum, Pamela A pamar...@uams.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology As a pathologist I'd like to apologize for all the pathologists who have made comments like this.. forget trained monkeys and dogs, most (all?) pathologists cannot cut slides either, at least not slides they'd want to try to read. I know I can't. -Nancy Stedman -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Turner Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 4:26 PM To: Paula Sicurello; Michael Ann Jones Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Timothy Morken; Jennifer MacDonald; Marcum, Pamela A Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology I once worked with a Pathologist who said she was in a group meeting of other pathologists when one of them blurted out that a trained monkey could cut slides. My pathologist, having had the opportunity to review some cases from the offender's laboratory, promptly replied Yes, and with the quality of your slides it looks like you did just that. She shut down the other pathologist really quickly, and as far as I know, we never received another case to review from him. My pathologist was not about to let that kind of arrogance stand. She was one of the best bosses I ever had! Mark Turner, Ph.D., HT(ASCP)QIHC Manager, Histology/IHC -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Sicurello Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:47 PM To: Michael Ann Jones Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald; Marcum, Pamela A; Timothy Morken Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology I've had more than one pathologist tell me a monkey could do my job. Though one of them said it with a smile and added a very highly skilled and well trained monkey, he was one of the few who knew better. How many of us monkeys have trained the whining and complaining residents how to do things correctly? Paula On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Michael Ann Jones mjo...@metropath.com wrote: OMG Pam~ our pathologist said the exact same thing to us when we started our Grossing training. Sheesh. . . Michael Ann On 3/24/15, 11:52 AM, Marcum, Pamela A pamar...@uams.edu wrote: That was nicer than the pathologist who told me years ago, any monkey could be trained to do my job. I basically did not take the job I was interviewing for at the time. At least the next interview went a lot better and I did take the job. Pam -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID) Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:30 PM To: Sue; Timothy Morken Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology I agree, BUTas long as many pathologists think you can teach any trained dog how to section histology will never have the recognition those of us that have studied and trained deserve. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sue Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:59 PM To: Timothy Morken Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology This is a fight that we continue to have with hospital administration. In my opinion histologists are just as important and needed as MT. Even though there is an increase in automation in pathology the hands on of a histologists is most important. The fact that hospital still consider a lower entry job is the reason there are not more of us. It is quite frustrating. Sue TJUH ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet - - Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list
RE: [Histonet] sta on
Not good 4 ihc Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: anita azdud...@hotmail.com Date:03/25/2015 12:57 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] sta on how many people use sta on in their waterbath? we have not for years, but have a new person who wants me to get some, she is having trouble with the ribbons floating away. thanks for your input, anita dudley providence hospital mobile, al ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] Cutting of Paraffin Blocks
U r absolutely not 2 gard they should be cutting my the first month. Filing is nor a histo function but a collateral dutyand will not help them as histotechs. Just my thought Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Adesupo, Adesuyi (Banjo) abades...@nrh-ok.com Date:03/25/2015 12:25 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Cutting of Paraffin Blocks Hi, How are you guys doing? I hope you are all doing well. Please I have two histology trainees and they have spent more than six months in the histology lab and they cannot cut blocks yet. They are comfortable with filing slides and blocks. But I have been telling them that they have to start cutting now. My question now is am I too hard on them? Best regards, Adesupo Adesuyi == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
So most admin foljs do not know abt us until someone in their family had a bx and needed a dx thsn all of a sudden we needed to jump thru hoops and they were our best rriend Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Bernice Frederick b-freder...@northwestern.edu Date:03/24/2015 3:27 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID) j...@cdc.gov, Carl Nituda cnit...@nvdermatology.com, Marcum, Pamela A pamar...@uams.edu, Sue suetp...@comcast.net, Timothy Morken timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Jennifer MacDonald jmacdon...@mtsac.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology They don't realize the theory we have to learn and those questions we have to answer like What's the best fixative for a pheochromocytoma? You tell them and they say the pathologist says B-5, to which I said, well they wouldn't pass out registry exam with that answer.Grrr. Or the difference between a Mucin, Pas and Alcian Blue. The cytopath who asked did really need to know. As well I vaguely recall a question back on my HTL exam asking why a pathologist would request a mucin stain Bernice Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP) Senior Research Tech Pathology Core Facility Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center Northwestern University 710 N Fairbanks Court Olson 8-421 Chicago,IL 60611 312-503-3723 b-freder...@northwestern.edu -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID) Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:14 PM To: Carl Nituda; Marcum, Pamela A; Sue; Timothy Morken Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology I know someone personally that works in a hospital and it hast Histotechnologist by his nameand he never took the HTL exam. He said his hospital bases it on experience From: Carl Nituda [cnit...@nvdermatology.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:32 PM To: Marcum, Pamela A; Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID); Sue; Timothy Morken Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology I personally think that a person just can't call themselves a Histotechnologist unless they went to school, training, and then pass the BOC by ASCP. Anyone, I mean anyone can perform a job with proper training in any field but that doesn't mean they should have that title until they pass certification. For hiring managers, I encourage you to hire certified candidates as priority and call them a Histotechnician, or Histotechnologist based on their certification. If a person is doing Histology work and is uncertified, encourage them to be certified and just don't give them a title. Imagine a world when people doing the job is actually certified like other professions, then you will get the respect from your colleagues that you deserve. Changes for the future of the profession starts with good leaders. Have a good and blessed week everyone. Carl Nituda -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marcum, Pamela A Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:53 AM To: 'Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)'; Sue; Timothy Morken Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology That was nicer than the pathologist who told me years ago, any monkey could be trained to do my job. I basically did not take the job I was interviewing for at the time. At least the next interview went a lot better and I did take the job. Pam -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID) Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:30 PM To: Sue; Timothy Morken Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology I agree, BUTas long as many pathologists think you can teach any trained dog how to section histology will never have the recognition those of us that have studied and trained deserve. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sue Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:59 PM To: Timothy Morken Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology This is a fight that we continue to have with hospital administration. In my opinion histologists are just as important and needed as MT. Even though there is an increase in automation in pathology the hands on of a histologists is most important. The fact that hospital still consider a lower entry job is the reason there are not more of us. It is quite frustrating. Sue TJUH
RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
I agree Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Carl Nituda cnit...@nvdermatology.com Date:03/24/2015 2:32 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Marcum, Pamela A pamar...@uams.edu, 'Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)' j...@cdc.gov, Sue suetp...@comcast.net, Timothy Morken timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Jennifer MacDonald jmacdon...@mtsac.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology I personally think that a person just can't call themselves a Histotechnologist unless they went to school, training, and then pass the BOC by ASCP. Anyone, I mean anyone can perform a job with proper training in any field but that doesn't mean they should have that title until they pass certification. For hiring managers, I encourage you to hire certified candidates as priority and call them a Histotechnician, or Histotechnologist based on their certification. If a person is doing Histology work and is uncertified, encourage them to be certified and just don't give them a title. Imagine a world when people doing the job is actually certified like other professions, then you will get the respect from your colleagues that you deserve. Changes for the future of the profession starts with good leaders. Have a good and blessed week everyone. Carl Nituda -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marcum, Pamela A Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:53 AM To: 'Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)'; Sue; Timothy Morken Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology That was nicer than the pathologist who told me years ago, any monkey could be trained to do my job. I basically did not take the job I was interviewing for at the time. At least the next interview went a lot better and I did take the job. Pam -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID) Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:30 PM To: Sue; Timothy Morken Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology I agree, BUTas long as many pathologists think you can teach any trained dog how to section histology will never have the recognition those of us that have studied and trained deserve. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sue Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:59 PM To: Timothy Morken Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology This is a fight that we continue to have with hospital administration. In my opinion histologists are just as important and needed as MT. Even though there is an increase in automation in pathology the hands on of a histologists is most important. The fact that hospital still consider a lower entry job is the reason there are not more of us. It is quite frustrating. Sue TJUH ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet -- Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] RE: Old slides.
So we actually cut the film around the section and mount to another slide and do pretty much what wascabove mentioned placing upside downband placing on paper towel. Actually works pretty good. TJUH Sue Paturzo Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Gowan,Christie C christiecgo...@dermatology.med.ufl.edu Date:03/09/2015 4:01 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Bernice Frederick' b-freder...@northwestern.edu, histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] RE: Old slides. Hi Bernice, I have found that if you flood the slide with mounting media (don't use xylene) flip the slide over onto an absorbent lab wipe and put a heavy weight with even pressure and leave for a few hours. If the slide sticks to the wipe just put a few drops of xylene to clean up the slide. You may still have some tiny bubbles but it is much better than the alternative. Good luck. Christie Gowan -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bernice Frederick Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 3:42 PM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Old slides. Hi all, We received some old slides (1997-1998) that were coverslipped with film. Sakura I would imagine. The issue here is that the coverslips have come up from the slide and the tissue is adhered to the back of the coverslip. They need to be recovered so they can be evaluated. What do you all recommend? We use the CV5030 for coverslipping. I tried one with xylene and mounting media but there were still a couple of air bubbles in there. Thanks, Bernice Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP) Senior Research Tech Pathology Core Facility Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center Northwestern University 710 N Fairbanks Court Olson 8-421 Chicago,IL 60611 312-503-3723 b-freder...@northwestern.edumailto:b-freder...@northwestern.edu ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] Question about POC testing
Cyto Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Pratt, Caroline caroline.pr...@uphs.upenn.edu Date:02/19/2015 4:59 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'histonet' histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Question about POC testing Does anyone know if a Tzanck Smear falls under Virology or Cytology for POC testing in a Dermatology clinic. I have heard conflicting theories. Thanks! Caroline M. Pratt, MBA Practice Administrator Dermpath 3020 Market Street, Ste 201 Philadelphia, PA 19104 Phone 215-349-8178 Cell 610-800-1381 Fax 215-662-6150 ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] Leica ASP basket transport
Good luck probably some type of plastic ware that u can find at wallmart Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Ingrao, Nicholas ning...@kaleidahealth.org Date:02/05/2015 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Leica ASP basket transport Our lab has standardized all cassette racking into the Leica ASP 300 basket. For locations that ship back to the main lab I have not found a suitable hard plastic storage container that fits this basket. I performed an in-person search at home depot and lowes without success. 14047643576 Basket set Leica ASP300 Shttp://www.leicabiosystems.com/ Looking to see what others are using for transport of this particular style of basket. I am struggling to find plastic storage container that will stack 3 high on the hook. Each basket is approx. 8x13x3 inches. Thanks, Nick Nick Ingrao, MBA, MT(ASCP) Manager, Anatomic Pathology Kaleida Health: Buffalo General Medical Center 100 High St Buffalo, NY 14203 Office:(716) 859-2028 Pager: (716) 642-0232 Fax: (716) 859-2393 The Keeping You Informed section of Kaleida Health`s website features a wealth of information, stories and pictures about our valued workforce and the tremendous momentum our organization is experiencing. Check us out at: www.kaleidahealth.org/kyi CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email transmission and any documents, files, or previous e-mail messages attached to it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any further review, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution, or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this e-mail transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, discard any paper copies, and delete all electronic files of the message. If you are unable to contact the sender or you are not sure as to whether you are the intended recipient, please call Kaleida Health��s Technology Assistance Center at (716) 859-. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] Water baths
To be honest we take every temp but that. Really do not see the need Stp TJUH Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Abbott, Tanya tanyaabb...@catholichealth.net Date:12/02/2014 10:29 AM (GMT-05:00) To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Water baths Does anyone take daily temperature checks of their water bath (used for cutting only) for CAP? Tanya G. Abbott RT (CSMLS) Manager Technologist, Histology/Cytology St. Joseph Medical Center Reading, PA 19603-0316 ph 610-378-2635 fax 610-898-5871 email: tanyaabb...@catholichealth.net This email and attachments contain information that may be confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, notify the sender at once and delete this message completely from your information system. Further use, disclosure, or copying of information contained in this email is not authorized, and any such action should not be construed as a waiver of privilege or other confidentiality protections. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet