RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-21 Thread Bitting, Angela K.
We hate Leica's CV5030 coverslipper too.!!! Babysit is a good word to 
describe the user experience.

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of joelle weaver
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:32 PM
To: Contact HistoCare; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I agree. The Leica stainer and Sakura are both good instruments, however I 
really HATE that Leica glass cover slipper and I had the same assessment as to 
need to baby sit. I sometimes preferred just hand cover slipping because it 
was less trouble, and even faster sometimes ( believe that or not). I had none 
of these issues with the Prisma covcr slipper, and no trouble with the user 
interface etc. I had the same issue with the door latch on the Prisma, but 
other than a quick replacement of that, it worked perfectly.




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
  From: cont...@histocare.com
 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:49:22 -0500
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)
 
 Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with a 
 simple interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed information 
 about what stage the staining process a rack is along with multiple menus.  
 The difference between the performance changes drastically when the 
 respective coverslipper attachments become involved.
 
 The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The Leica's 
 coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more attention and 
 alerts frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate rack for staining the 
 slides at the beginning of the process and eventually transfers them to a 
 different rack one the cover slip is complete. This one uses glass and 
 frequently drops glass, creates bubbles, drops and breaks slides. You will 
 have to frequently purge the system and clean the cover medium needle 
 dropper.  Once done, it only holds. Two racks of 30 slides and will alert 
 until you remove it. You can't leave this one alone for more than 5 minutes 
 without an alert. Seriously.
 
 The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be replaced not 
 even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished slides remain in a 
 carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20 before it alerts. For 
 high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You won't lose productivity 
 time by needing to check on this machine pair.
 
 HistoCare.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for 
 either a Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any 
 recommendations?
 Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to 
 meet our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both 
 stainers. Any pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are 
 currently using the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is your 
 volume?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Sophia
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RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-21 Thread Sullivan, Beatrice
I'd like to use something a little stronger to describe how much I dislike this 
coverslipper.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bitting, Angela 
K.
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:04 AM
To: joelle weaver; Contact HistoCare; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

We hate Leica's CV5030 coverslipper too.!!! Babysit is a good word to 
describe the user experience.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of joelle weaver
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:32 PM
To: Contact HistoCare; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I agree. The Leica stainer and Sakura are both good instruments, however I 
really HATE that Leica glass cover slipper and I had the same assessment as to 
need to baby sit. I sometimes preferred just hand cover slipping because it 
was less trouble, and even faster sometimes ( believe that or not). I had none 
of these issues with the Prisma covcr slipper, and no trouble with the user 
interface etc. I had the same issue with the door latch on the Prisma, but 
other than a quick replacement of that, it worked perfectly.




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
  From: cont...@histocare.com
 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:49:22 -0500
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)
 
 Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with a 
 simple interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed information 
 about what stage the staining process a rack is along with multiple menus.  
 The difference between the performance changes drastically when the 
 respective coverslipper attachments become involved.
 
 The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The Leica's 
 coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more attention and 
 alerts frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate rack for staining the 
 slides at the beginning of the process and eventually transfers them to a 
 different rack one the cover slip is complete. This one uses glass and 
 frequently drops glass, creates bubbles, drops and breaks slides. You will 
 have to frequently purge the system and clean the cover medium needle 
 dropper.  Once done, it only holds. Two racks of 30 slides and will alert 
 until you remove it. You can't leave this one alone for more than 5 minutes 
 without an alert. Seriously.
 
 The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be replaced not 
 even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished slides remain in a 
 carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20 before it alerts. For 
 high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You won't lose productivity 
 time by needing to check on this machine pair.
 
 HistoCare.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for 
 either a Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any 
 recommendations?
 Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to 
 meet our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both 
 stainers. Any pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are 
 currently using the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is your 
 volume?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Sophia
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RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-21 Thread Daniel Hewitt
I agree a lot of baby sitting with the leica, our other lab has the new
Sakura which uses glass instead of tape, they love it.

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Sullivan, Beatrice
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:18 AM
To: Bitting, Angela K.; joelle weaver; Contact HistoCare;
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I'd like to use something a little stronger to describe how much I
dislike this coverslipper.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bitting,
Angela K.
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:04 AM
To: joelle weaver; Contact HistoCare; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

We hate Leica's CV5030 coverslipper too.!!! Babysit is a good word to
describe the user experience.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of joelle
weaver
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:32 PM
To: Contact HistoCare; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I agree. The Leica stainer and Sakura are both good instruments, however
I really HATE that Leica glass cover slipper and I had the same
assessment as to need to baby sit. I sometimes preferred just hand
cover slipping because it was less trouble, and even faster sometimes (
believe that or not). I had none of these issues with the Prisma covcr
slipper, and no trouble with the user interface etc. I had the same
issue with the door latch on the Prisma, but other than a quick
replacement of that, it worked perfectly.




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
  From: cont...@histocare.com
 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:49:22 -0500
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)
 
 Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with
a simple interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed
information about what stage the staining process a rack is along with
multiple menus.  The difference between the performance changes
drastically when the respective coverslipper attachments become
involved.
 
 The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The
Leica's coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more
attention and alerts frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate
rack for staining the slides at the beginning of the process and
eventually transfers them to a different rack one the cover slip is
complete. This one uses glass and frequently drops glass, creates
bubbles, drops and breaks slides. You will have to frequently purge the
system and clean the cover medium needle dropper.  Once done, it only
holds. Two racks of 30 slides and will alert until you remove it. You
can't leave this one alone for more than 5 minutes without an alert.
Seriously.
 
 The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be
replaced not even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished
slides remain in a carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20
before it alerts. For high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You
won't lose productivity time by needing to check on this machine pair.
 
 HistoCare.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for 
 either a Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any
recommendations?
 Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to 
 meet our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both 
 stainers. Any pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are

 currently using the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is
your volume?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Sophia
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RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-21 Thread Michelle Lamphere
I will give the Leica coverslipper some love herewe do not really have any 
problems.  We put the rack in and go do whatever until it is done.  I do not 
get air bubbles and I do not have to babysit.  Obviously, as with any piece of 
equipment, occasionally something goes out and we have to have it repaired.  
But that thing has been chugging along in our lab since 2006.

On the other hand, we did have the Sakura tape coverslipper for a couple of 
years back in the 90's, I think (was before I got here).  Almost every one of 
those slides is un-usable.  The tape has warped and pulled off and pulled the 
tissue sections with it.  I am sure they have made improvements since then, but 
made the lab very leery of using the tape.

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RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-21 Thread kgrobert
I have the Leica stainer and coverslipper, and I don't have anywhere near
as many problems with the coverslipper as  described by Contact below. 
Mine alerts once in a while; if his alerts that much, then something is
seriously wrong.  (The last time mine alerted that much, it needed a new
brain-this is an older machine that had 5 circuit boards and one gave
out-and one new sensor.  Still worth it to us to fix it.)  Anything as
complex as staining and coverslipping robots will be fussy from time to
time.  But I love my Leica!

Kathleen

Principal Lab Technician
Neurotoxicology Labs
Molecular Pathology Facility Core
Dept of Pharmacology  Toxicology
Rutgers, the State University of NJ
41 B Gordon Road
Piscataway, NJ 08854
(848) 445-1443
FAX (732) 445-6905

 We have both and love them both. IF you are using tape coverslips then
 perhaps Sakura is your best bet. We use glass coverslips on BOTH the Leica
 and Sakura and find fewer problems with the Leica.

 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Contact
 HistoCare
 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

 Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with a
 simple interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed
 information about what stage the staining process a rack is along with
 multiple menus.  The difference between the performance changes
 drastically when the respective coverslipper attachments become involved.

 The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The
 Leica's coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more
 attention and alerts frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate rack
 for staining the slides at the beginning of the process and eventually
 transfers them to a different rack one the cover slip is complete. This
 one uses glass and frequently drops glass, creates bubbles, drops and
 breaks slides. You will have to frequently purge the system and clean the
 cover medium needle dropper.  Once done, it only holds. Two racks of 30
 slides and will alert until you remove it. You can't leave this one alone
 for more than 5 minutes without an alert. Seriously.

 The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be replaced
 not even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished slides
 remain in a carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20 before
 it alerts. For high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You won't
 lose productivity time by needing to check on this machine pair.

 HistoCare.com






 Hi,

 We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for either
 a Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any
 recommendations?
 Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to meet
 our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both stainers. Any
 pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are currently using
 the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is your volume?

 Thanks!

 Sophia
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RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-21 Thread Pratt, Caroline
We recently purchased a Sakura and we are very, very pleased with the
results and ease of use. :)

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
kgrob...@rci.rutgers.edu
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I have the Leica stainer and coverslipper, and I don't have anywhere
near
as many problems with the coverslipper as  described by Contact below.

Mine alerts once in a while; if his alerts that much, then something is
seriously wrong.  (The last time mine alerted that much, it needed a new
brain-this is an older machine that had 5 circuit boards and one gave
out-and one new sensor.  Still worth it to us to fix it.)  Anything as
complex as staining and coverslipping robots will be fussy from time to
time.  But I love my Leica!

Kathleen

Principal Lab Technician
Neurotoxicology Labs
Molecular Pathology Facility Core
Dept of Pharmacology  Toxicology
Rutgers, the State University of NJ
41 B Gordon Road
Piscataway, NJ 08854
(848) 445-1443
FAX (732) 445-6905

 We have both and love them both. IF you are using tape coverslips then
 perhaps Sakura is your best bet. We use glass coverslips on BOTH the
Leica
 and Sakura and find fewer problems with the Leica.

 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Contact
 HistoCare
 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

 Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with
a
 simple interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed
 information about what stage the staining process a rack is along with
 multiple menus.  The difference between the performance changes
 drastically when the respective coverslipper attachments become
involved.

 The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The
 Leica's coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more
 attention and alerts frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate
rack
 for staining the slides at the beginning of the process and eventually
 transfers them to a different rack one the cover slip is complete.
This
 one uses glass and frequently drops glass, creates bubbles, drops and
 breaks slides. You will have to frequently purge the system and clean
the
 cover medium needle dropper.  Once done, it only holds. Two racks of
30
 slides and will alert until you remove it. You can't leave this one
alone
 for more than 5 minutes without an alert. Seriously.

 The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be
replaced
 not even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished slides
 remain in a carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20
before
 it alerts. For high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You won't
 lose productivity time by needing to check on this machine pair.

 HistoCare.com






 Hi,

 We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for
either
 a Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any
 recommendations?
 Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to
meet
 our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both stainers.
Any
 pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are currently
using
 the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is your volume?

 Thanks!

 Sophia
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RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-21 Thread Matthew Roark
I currently use the Leica stainer and coverslipper without any problems.  I
took some time, at first, to fine tune the coverslipper but have not had any
real problems since. 

Both are workhorses.


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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pratt,
Caroline
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:00 AM
To: kgrob...@rci.rutgers.edu; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

We recently purchased a Sakura and we are very, very pleased with the
results and ease of use. :)

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
kgrob...@rci.rutgers.edu
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I have the Leica stainer and coverslipper, and I don't have anywhere near as
many problems with the coverslipper as  described by Contact below.

Mine alerts once in a while; if his alerts that much, then something is
seriously wrong.  (The last time mine alerted that much, it needed a new
brain-this is an older machine that had 5 circuit boards and one gave
out-and one new sensor.  Still worth it to us to fix it.)  Anything as
complex as staining and coverslipping robots will be fussy from time to
time.  But I love my Leica!

Kathleen

Principal Lab Technician
Neurotoxicology Labs
Molecular Pathology Facility Core
Dept of Pharmacology  Toxicology
Rutgers, the State University of NJ
41 B Gordon Road
Piscataway, NJ 08854
(848) 445-1443
FAX (732) 445-6905

 We have both and love them both. IF you are using tape coverslips then 
 perhaps Sakura is your best bet. We use glass coverslips on BOTH the
Leica
 and Sakura and find fewer problems with the Leica.

 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Contact
 HistoCare
 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

 Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with
a
 simple interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed 
 information about what stage the staining process a rack is along with 
 multiple menus.  The difference between the performance changes 
 drastically when the respective coverslipper attachments become
involved.

 The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The 
 Leica's coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more 
 attention and alerts frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate
rack
 for staining the slides at the beginning of the process and eventually 
 transfers them to a different rack one the cover slip is complete.
This
 one uses glass and frequently drops glass, creates bubbles, drops and 
 breaks slides. You will have to frequently purge the system and clean
the
 cover medium needle dropper.  Once done, it only holds. Two racks of
30
 slides and will alert until you remove it. You can't leave this one
alone
 for more than 5 minutes without an alert. Seriously.

 The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be
replaced
 not even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished slides 
 remain in a carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20
before
 it alerts. For high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You won't 
 lose productivity time by needing to check on this machine pair.

 HistoCare.com






 Hi,

 We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for
either
 a Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any 
 recommendations?
 Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to
meet
 our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both stainers.
Any
 pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are currently
using
 the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is your volume?

 Thanks!

 Sophia
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RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-21 Thread Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)
I love it.  For a glass coverslipper.

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sullivan, 
Beatrice
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:18 AM
To: Bitting, Angela K.; joelle weaver; Contact HistoCare; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I'd like to use something a little stronger to describe how much I dislike this 
coverslipper.

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bitting, Angela 
K.
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:04 AM
To: joelle weaver; Contact HistoCare; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

We hate Leica's CV5030 coverslipper too.!!! Babysit is a good word to 
describe the user experience.

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of joelle weaver
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:32 PM
To: Contact HistoCare; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I agree. The Leica stainer and Sakura are both good instruments, however I 
really HATE that Leica glass cover slipper and I had the same assessment as to 
need to baby sit. I sometimes preferred just hand cover slipping because it 
was less trouble, and even faster sometimes ( believe that or not). I had none 
of these issues with the Prisma covcr slipper, and no trouble with the user 
interface etc. I had the same issue with the door latch on the Prisma, but 
other than a quick replacement of that, it worked perfectly.




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
  From: cont...@histocare.com
 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:49:22 -0500
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)
 
 Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with a 
 simple interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed information 
 about what stage the staining process a rack is along with multiple menus.  
 The difference between the performance changes drastically when the 
 respective coverslipper attachments become involved.
 
 The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The Leica's 
 coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more attention and 
 alerts frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate rack for staining the 
 slides at the beginning of the process and eventually transfers them to a 
 different rack one the cover slip is complete. This one uses glass and 
 frequently drops glass, creates bubbles, drops and breaks slides. You will 
 have to frequently purge the system and clean the cover medium needle 
 dropper.  Once done, it only holds. Two racks of 30 slides and will alert 
 until you remove it. You can't leave this one alone for more than 5 minutes 
 without an alert. Seriously.
 
 The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be replaced not 
 even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished slides remain in a 
 carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20 before it alerts. For 
 high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You won't lose productivity 
 time by needing to check on this machine pair.
 
 HistoCare.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for 
 either a Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any 
 recommendations?
 Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to 
 meet our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both 
 stainers. Any pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are 
 currently using the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is your 
 volume?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Sophia
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RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-21 Thread Bernice Frederick
We only babysit when we receive outside slides or the label was not removed 
prior to staining. It can be adjusted to fit the parameters of the slides used. 
We have the XL and connected coverslipper.


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-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bartlett, 
Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:49 PM
To: 'Sullivan, Beatrice'; Bitting, Angela K.; joelle weaver; Contact HistoCare; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I love it.  For a glass coverslipper.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sullivan, 
Beatrice
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:18 AM
To: Bitting, Angela K.; joelle weaver; Contact HistoCare; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I'd like to use something a little stronger to describe how much I dislike this 
coverslipper.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bitting, Angela 
K.
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:04 AM
To: joelle weaver; Contact HistoCare; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

We hate Leica's CV5030 coverslipper too.!!! Babysit is a good word to 
describe the user experience.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of joelle weaver
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:32 PM
To: Contact HistoCare; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

I agree. The Leica stainer and Sakura are both good instruments, however I 
really HATE that Leica glass cover slipper and I had the same assessment as to 
need to baby sit. I sometimes preferred just hand cover slipping because it 
was less trouble, and even faster sometimes ( believe that or not). I had none 
of these issues with the Prisma covcr slipper, and no trouble with the user 
interface etc. I had the same issue with the door latch on the Prisma, but 
other than a quick replacement of that, it worked perfectly.




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
  From: cont...@histocare.com
 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:49:22 -0500
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)
 
 Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with a 
 simple interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed information 
 about what stage the staining process a rack is along with multiple menus.  
 The difference between the performance changes drastically when the 
 respective coverslipper attachments become involved.
 
 The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The Leica's 
 coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more attention and 
 alerts frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate rack for staining the 
 slides at the beginning of the process and eventually transfers them to a 
 different rack one the cover slip is complete. This one uses glass and 
 frequently drops glass, creates bubbles, drops and breaks slides. You will 
 have to frequently purge the system and clean the cover medium needle 
 dropper.  Once done, it only holds. Two racks of 30 slides and will alert 
 until you remove it. You can't leave this one alone for more than 5 minutes 
 without an alert. Seriously.
 
 The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be replaced not 
 even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished slides remain in a 
 carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20 before it alerts. For 
 high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You won't lose productivity 
 time by needing to check on this machine pair.
 
 HistoCare.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for 
 either a Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any 
 recommendations?
 Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to 
 meet our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both 
 stainers. Any pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are 
 currently using the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is your 
 volume?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Sophia
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[Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-20 Thread Contact HistoCare
Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with a simple 
interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed information about 
what stage the staining process a rack is along with multiple menus.  The 
difference between the performance changes drastically when the respective 
coverslipper attachments become involved.

The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The Leica's 
coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more attention and alerts 
frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate rack for staining the slides 
at the beginning of the process and eventually transfers them to a different 
rack one the cover slip is complete. This one uses glass and frequently drops 
glass, creates bubbles, drops and breaks slides. You will have to frequently 
purge the system and clean the cover medium needle dropper.  Once done, it only 
holds. Two racks of 30 slides and will alert until you remove it. You can't 
leave this one alone for more than 5 minutes without an alert. Seriously.

The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be replaced not 
even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished slides remain in a 
carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20 before it alerts. For 
high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You won't lose productivity time 
by needing to check on this machine pair.

HistoCare.com






Hi,

We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for either a
Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any recommendations?
Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to meet
our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both stainers. Any
pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are currently using
the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is your volume?

Thanks!

Sophia
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RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-20 Thread joelle weaver
I agree. The Leica stainer and Sakura are both good instruments, however I 
really HATE that Leica glass cover slipper and I had the same assessment as to 
need to baby sit. I sometimes preferred just hand cover slipping because it 
was less trouble, and even faster sometimes ( believe that or not). I had none 
of these issues with the Prisma covcr slipper, and no trouble with the user 
interface etc. I had the same issue with the door latch on the Prisma, but 
other than a quick replacement of that, it worked perfectly.




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
  From: cont...@histocare.com
 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:49:22 -0500
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)
 
 Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with a 
 simple interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed information 
 about what stage the staining process a rack is along with multiple menus.  
 The difference between the performance changes drastically when the 
 respective coverslipper attachments become involved.
 
 The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The Leica's 
 coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more attention and 
 alerts frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate rack for staining the 
 slides at the beginning of the process and eventually transfers them to a 
 different rack one the cover slip is complete. This one uses glass and 
 frequently drops glass, creates bubbles, drops and breaks slides. You will 
 have to frequently purge the system and clean the cover medium needle 
 dropper.  Once done, it only holds. Two racks of 30 slides and will alert 
 until you remove it. You can't leave this one alone for more than 5 minutes 
 without an alert. Seriously.
 
 The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be replaced not 
 even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished slides remain in a 
 carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20 before it alerts. For 
 high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You won't lose productivity 
 time by needing to check on this machine pair.
 
 HistoCare.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for either a
 Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any recommendations?
 Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to meet
 our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both stainers. Any
 pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are currently using
 the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is your volume?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Sophia
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RE: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

2013-03-20 Thread Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)
We have both and love them both. IF you are using tape coverslips then perhaps 
Sakura is your best bet. We use glass coverslips on BOTH the Leica and Sakura 
and find fewer problems with the Leica.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Contact 
HistoCare
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura (Sophia Lin)

Both stainers are powerhouses. The Leica has a plain menu screen with a simple 
interface while the Sakura has a LCD screen with detailed information about 
what stage the staining process a rack is along with multiple menus.  The 
difference between the performance changes drastically when the respective 
coverslipper attachments become involved.

The Leica is seriously no match for the Sakura in this respect. The Leica's 
coverslipper is its Achilles heel and requires a LOT more attention and alerts 
frequently, very frequently. It takes a separate rack for staining the slides 
at the beginning of the process and eventually transfers them to a different 
rack one the cover slip is complete. This one uses glass and frequently drops 
glass, creates bubbles, drops and breaks slides. You will have to frequently 
purge the system and clean the cover medium needle dropper.  Once done, it only 
holds. Two racks of 30 slides and will alert until you remove it. You can't 
leave this one alone for more than 5 minutes without an alert. Seriously.

The Sakura's coverslipper uses cover tape which won't need to be replaced not 
even remotely as soon as the glass in the Leica.  Finished slides remain in a 
carousel at the top and can hold about 10 racks of 20 before it alerts. For 
high volume, the Sakura pair wins hands down. You won't lose productivity time 
by needing to check on this machine pair.

HistoCare.com






Hi,

We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for either a 
Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any recommendations?
Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to meet our 
workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both stainers. Any pros/cons 
would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are currently using the stainer, 
does it meet your workload and what is your volume?

Thanks!

Sophia
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[Histonet] HE Stainer Leica vs Sakura

2013-03-19 Thread Sophia Lin
Hi,

We are currently looking to switch out our linear MKII stainer for either a
Leica XL autostainer or the Sakura Tissue-Tek Prisma. Any recommendations?
Are quantity of HEs is increasing and we need adequate equipment to meet
our workload. The incorporated oven seems excellent on both stainers. Any
pros/cons would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you are currently using
the stainer, does it meet your workload and what is your volume?

Thanks!

Sophia
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