[Histonet] Help with Masson's Trichrome - not working on cryo sections

2011-05-31 Thread Jennifer Fricton
Hello,

I am completely stumped by a problem we¹ve been having with our Masson¹s
Trichrome.  It isn¹t working properly on cryo sections.  We developed our
protocol several years ago and it has been a standard in our lab without any
trouble, until about four months ago when it just stopped working on frozen
sections.  It still works fine on paraffin sections.

You can see images at this link:
http://www.med.umn.edu/lhi/prod/groups/med/@pub/@med/@dom/@lhi/documents/con
tent/med_content_340494.pdf

What seems to be happening is that the beibrich scarlet + acid fuchsin
reagent is either not staining the muscle tissue, or is washing out of the
tissue.  The aniline blue is still staining the connective tissue very well
(it stopped working, too, but we solved by reducing time in water rinse
following stain).  My Masson¹s protocol is very standard ­ essentially
straight out of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology Manual (p. 94).  I
fix my cryosections in 10% NBF x 30 mins. before starting the protocol.
I¹ve made sure my formalin is fresh and properly stored, with no white
precipitate.  I¹ve tried the Bouin¹s mordant step at both 56C and room temp
overnight.  I¹ve reduced my distilled water rinses following the biebrich
scarlet and aniline blue steps to just a quick dip, thinking maybe I was
de-staining too much before setting the stains with acetic acid.  I¹ve
re-made all solutions, checked all components and pH levels.  I haven¹t done
anything different with my frozen tissues, and I¹ve tried several different
freshly cut tissues.

Has anyone seen this before and have any tips on what is going wrong?  Your
help is greatly appreciated!

-- 
Jennifer L. Fricton, B.S.
Scientist, Lab Manager
Lillehei Heart Institute Histology  Microscopy Core Facility
University of Minnesota School of Medicine, Division of Cardiology
312 Church Street SE
4-290 Nils Hasselmo Hall
Minneapolis, MN  55455
Lab: 612-626-3090

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RE: [Histonet] Help with Masson's Trichrome - not working on cryo sections

2011-05-31 Thread Tony Henwood
Jennifer,

Looking at the images, is it possible that the slides were air-dried for too 
long prior to staining?

Regards 
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA) 
Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist 
Tel: 612 9845 3306 
Fax: 612 9845 3318 
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA 

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Subject: [Histonet] Help with Masson's Trichrome - not working on cryo sections

Hello,

I am completely stumped by a problem we¹ve been having with our Masson¹s 
Trichrome.  It isn¹t working properly on cryo sections.  We developed our 
protocol several years ago and it has been a standard in our lab without any 
trouble, until about four months ago when it just stopped working on frozen 
sections.  It still works fine on paraffin sections.

You can see images at this link:
http://www.med.umn.edu/lhi/prod/groups/med/@pub/@med/@dom/@lhi/documents/con
tent/med_content_340494.pdf

What seems to be happening is that the beibrich scarlet + acid fuchsin reagent 
is either not staining the muscle tissue, or is washing out of the tissue.  The 
aniline blue is still staining the connective tissue very well (it stopped 
working, too, but we solved by reducing time in water rinse following stain).  
My Masson¹s protocol is very standard ­ essentially straight out of the Armed 
Forces Institute of Pathology Manual (p. 94).  I fix my cryosections in 10% NBF 
x 30 mins. before starting the protocol.

I¹ve made sure my formalin is fresh and properly stored, with no white 
precipitate.  I¹ve tried the Bouin¹s mordant step at both 56C and room temp 
overnight.  I¹ve reduced my distilled water rinses following the biebrich 
scarlet and aniline blue steps to just a quick dip, thinking maybe I was 
de-staining too much before setting the stains with acetic acid.  I¹ve re-made 
all solutions, checked all components and pH levels.  I haven¹t done anything 
different with my frozen tissues, and I¹ve tried several different freshly cut 
tissues.

Has anyone seen this before and have any tips on what is going wrong?  Your 
help is greatly appreciated!

--
Jennifer L. Fricton, B.S.
Scientist, Lab Manager
Lillehei Heart Institute Histology  Microscopy Core Facility University of 
Minnesota School of Medicine, Division of Cardiology
312 Church Street SE
4-290 Nils Hasselmo Hall
Minneapolis, MN  55455
Lab: 612-626-3090

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